People are saying the Twolves are either super smart in taking two point guards or there brain Dead. Most of the time i would say they were pretty smart but in the position they are i thought it was a dumb move. Here is why, they get the two best point guards RUbio and Flynn. One probably wont play for them so lets trade Rubio. Well the most interested New York, has nothing to offer that fits the Twolves.It would have to be a three team trade and the only position Twolves are really looking to fill is sg, sf (if the player is good) or maybe a young center.
Flynn, to portland for Outlaw, and Bayless, Outlaw will give them a wing scorer, and Bayless will give them an amazing scorer who can play the 2 and 1.
Minnesota needs a legit starting SG and some length in the post. New York can't offer any of those things so a trade with the Knicks is virtually impossible unless like KevinDurantRocks says a third team gets involved. Maybe the Warriors could get involved. I think Minnesota would be interested in Ellis, Wright, Bellineli, & Biedrins. Maybe some combination of those players could make things work. I think Golden State would definitely want David Lee.
i think the twolves are braindead. i'm okay with picking 2 pgs and playing them, but at least get one that can stroke the 3. you got jefferson, love, brewer, rubio and flynn on the court. who is going to hit the 3 when the defense collapses on jefferson? kevin love is the best shooter of those 5. not a good sign.
They won't trade Rubio right away - more likely in 2 years. Flynn was the guy they wanted, but with Harden & Evans off the board, they pushed adding a player back a year or two by taking Rubio. It's a long-term investment that will pay off eventually. In 2 years, we'll know more about him & his contract won't be nearly the issue it is now. Minnesota is basically gambling that he pans out & they can trade him for something of value in a couple years.
so to find 3 teams? I dunno about that. I mean one idea could be
Knicks- T-wolves and Portland?
Knicks-T-wolves and Pistons sound good but like what deal would you make for that? ( i got one...)
Knicks get- Richard Hamilton, Ricky Rubio and Corey Brewer
Wolves get- Tyshawn Prince, Nate Robinson and Jason Maxiell
Pistons get- 1st round pick, Larry Hughes, Sebastain Telfair, Hank Norel and 2010 2nd rounder
Ha Knicksboy: the Knicks are the only team that would do that trade
What about this:
Golden State gets: David Lee, Nate Robinson, Brewer
Knicks get: Ricky Rubio, 2nd round pick (from Minnesota), Norel, Telfair, Maggette, Gomes
Wolves get: Wright, Belinelli, Biedrins, Chandler
maybe...that is a good deal if the NY gets a 2010 1st rounder...im cool with it.
Ha I changed it to a 2nd round pick. I think that trade looks pretty fair now. I would like to see something like this happen. I like when teams totally rearrange their rosters ha.
I think the trade works salary wise too.
there will not be an immediate trade, David Kahn is fielding trade offers because that is his job as a GM, to explore all options. Unless someone offers a superstar or a plethera of young players oozing with potential Rubio is going to finish his contract in Spain and his rights will be retained by the T-Wolves. Rubio is ONLY 18, his value is only going to go up as his game improves and at the end of the day if Minnesota can put a team together I think they can convince him to stay with the team after he completes his buyout. In the mean time, Johnny Flynn will have every opportunity to develop his game in Minnesota. So when you think about it Minnesota has the opportunity to groom to two high quality prospects, at possibly the most important position on the floor, simultaneously. At the very least this gives a growing team options and best case senario both players pan out they have a great bargaining chip to exchange. Also everyone forgets Wayne Ellington was a great value pick at #28 filling a need, free agency is still ahead, and in 2010 not only will half of the teams contracts expire but the team could have up too 3 draft selections again. That many draft selections comes in handy as they young players on the team develop they can decide to move up for an elite prospect or possible package picks for veteran players.
I think Rubio's stock will only go up to team he wants to play for...
The Timberwolves have made it clear that they have no intentions to trade either player. I know it wasnt the brightest move, but lets look at this in a different way. You cant win with just your top 5 guys. Getting a good backup PG would be a great move if Flynn (or Rubio, but probably Flynn) can learn to lead the backups. The backups play over 1/3 of the game. If you win that 3rd, then you only have to play even the other 2/3. And sometimes they may just dominate that 1/3. Then they could lose the 2/3 by 10 points, and still win.
i think you gotta slim down the number of players in the trades people make, every trade on here has atleast 10 people/picks moving, and that doesnt happen to much