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Turkey Team Admits to giving Enes Kanter MONEY

Looks like highly regarded recruit Enes Kanter chances of playing at Kentucky are getting dim.
Becuz The New York Times are reporting that a team in Turkey has admitted to giving him money..
Nedim Karakas the G.M of Fenerbahce Ulker a Turkish team admitted that he has given the NCAA proof that Kanter indeed played for his team..Karakas supplied the NCAA with banking & housing records ..That showed received incentives ..Among the alleged benefits were housing and food for his family..An intial payment of $19,800 and a Salary of $6500 a month..
Karakas says (he feels sorry for telling this on Kanter),but he could not lie ..He thinks the amount given to Kanter over 4 years is between $100,000 $150,000..
Karakas says (he got angry after Kanter left his team )after getting advice from Max Ergul,who represents NBA player Ersan IIyasova...We spent so much time developing Kanter...It really hurt seeing him leave us..


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Im not surprised i had read

Im not surprised i had read that before he even switched from Washington to Kentucky there was talk that the team still had all the receipts for all of his payments. It does suck that he doesnt get to play though.

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What will happen now will he

What will happen now will he avoid a Renardo Sidney ordeal and just play in EuropeÉ

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There's so much to this

There's so much to this story..I read that Kanter also signed with agent Max Ergul 4 years ago..But both Kanter & Ergul denies it..Plus that G.M seems pissed that Kanter left his team..No matter whut happens Kanter will still be a top 5 pick next season..I expect a ruling on this by the end of this month...

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But.....

Their also is apparently no contract signed by Enes Kanter or his family, and Fenerbache apparently would benefit a lot from making sure Kanter never plays in the NCAA. I like the line "He feels sorry for telling this on Kanter", lol, what a joke. "We spent so much time developing him, it really hurt to see him leave us." Well, why didn't you, you know, get the guy to sign a contract, like most of these other European teams that make it difficult for these players to be bought out and play in the NBA? I find it just slightly suspicious. The bottom line is this, do I think Enes Kanter received money from a professional team? The chances point to, certainly. Do I care? The chances point to, not in the least. Do I think the NCAA should care? Phuck no. Let the kid play college basketball. It is better for you and obviously what he wants to do. I doubt his pro team that paid him this money said, "Hey Enes, commit to Washington than de-commit and go over to Coach Cal's team. Wait there for a while and than we'll screw the whole thing up so you can come back and play for us." I think that he did what probably most young European players do and work with pro teams, as European leagues do not have drafts and it is pretty much a free for all for young talented players. They are probably not incredibly concerned with NCAA regulations, which usually leads to problems with the NCAA when players come from Europe (not always, but it happens a lot). Bottom line is, why does the NCAA care? Amateurism has become a bloody joke, and this kid obviously wants to play college basketball? Why deny him, because he was good enough that a pro team who does not give a $hit about him playing in college game he a grip of cash? Maybe like they should be giving players of Kanter's caliber who play in the NCAA? Like say, Ed O'Bannon is suing them for? I just find the NCAA incredibly hypocritical and just wish they would let talented players play basketball. More than likely Kanter is not the only one who made money playing basketball before joining a team, though usually we do not find out until years after and the NCAA null and voids things that have already happened thus fore are ingrained in our memories. Sound familiar Marcus Camby, Reggie Bush, Derrick Rose? Luckily non of these guys won championships in the years in question, but to null and void their achievements is, for lack of better word, retarded. Well, I am so glad that this Fenerbache guy got his George Washington on, because honestly he seems like someone who has nothing at all to profit from this and just could not stand to tell a lie! So, it is true you become a sniveling biotch when a potentially solid pro player leaves your team wanting to go a different route? Kanter broke his heart :(. Please, to me this is trumped up crap, I hope people do not buy this, but unfortunately, it is on sale already.

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The ruling should be coming

The ruling should be coming within the next 2 weeks.

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This is why the NCAA stinks

This is why the NCAA stinks and I can't stand it all they do is extort players and make sure they arent even allowed to touch a penny.

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Kentucky hate

now that they haven't been able to bust Calipari inside his program, apparently they have found a way to try and sabotage his team through outside sources.....its so obvious to me that the NCAA has a vendetta against UK now and they are making themselves look stupid.....

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If Enes Kanter can't play in

If Enes Kanter can't play in NCAA, he should still have many options.

I am pretty sure there are teams in Europe interested in his service, but this may come with an expensive buyout and Kanter may need to play behind a veteran player because seniority is the general rule in Euroleague when it comes to playtime.

If Kanter can't play in NCAA, I think he should take the NBDL route, he will get his minutes to dominate in D-league and also under close attention of all NBA teams while he can get a small salary playing in NBA style without the talent and the D.

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This is not about options though

Sad to say, it is not about options. It is obvious he has options. But he wants to play in the NCAA. Why deny him that? People have gotten money under the table to actually go to certain schools, and it was never proven that was the case with Kanter. The NCAA makes this self righteous play about not exploiting kids with talent, when that is exactly what they do. I think Europe would be Kanters best option, though I have no idea what garbage contract they would make him sign, so maybe he will actually play NBADL. But, I have huge issues with this. I think these allegations suck and I can not believe it took until now for this to become news. I honestly hope the NCAA finally goes in the right direction and just lets him play. I know this might cause some backlash, but who would care? College sport blue bloods who still think these are virgin athletes who think players making money before the pro's is on some John Holmes thing? I just honestly wish someone finally stood up to this stupid system. Renardo Sidney should not have sat out last year. I do not think anyone who wants to play college basketball should be denied. Their will be one and done players regardless of this systems existence or not (talking about one year of eligibility after HS, and the only way it would not exist would be if they added another year, than they would be two and done) and I do not believe the NCAA has a good reason to deny these players. Amateurism is a joke when it comes to college sports. The lines have become incredibly blurred and it is time to stop this charade. Enes Kanter should have options alright, to be able to play his one year of college basketball and go to the pros, like his American counterparts.

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I told an NCAA complience officer to take a long walk off a short pier before.....I know its not a huge deal but I'm trying to be part of the solution not part of the problem....

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Dleauge bad idea. For one he

Dleauge bad idea. For one he won't dominate. He was getting worked by older college players this summer and thr dleauge will be much harder and his weaknesses would be exposed which would drop his stock. Smart move is go back to Europe. The charges aren't trumpt up since they have checks from the team cashed by the parents. It's a shame the NCAA is so petty though. So what if they get benifits before or even during college. College basketball is a big business now. Hell even highschool is now a business

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It is all business

That is my point Quincey. I think these charges are garbage just due to the fact that it is common place over there, and that they should allow it to happen as long as said player is not taking money from a school per se. Hell, I would not even mind that, we know it happens. I just think this whole "amateur athlete" thing is ridiculous. It is an old school frame of mind, and the times have definitely changed. Obviously, Kanter accepted quite a bit of money, but I think this team has too much to gain from this to say they are doing it for anything besides selfish purposes. They do not give a damn about Enes and generally want him to have to play in Europe since they would receive a huge transfer fee. The guy is a 6'11/270 pound beast, and while he might not dominate, he would hold his own. I would love to know the players pushing him around this summer, because it would be a feat. He has a very polished game, and I am sure they invested a lot of time into him, but he never signed a contract, and they obviously did not cover their bases. I just wonder why this came out now. Why weren't these guys saying these things earlier? It just seemed like sports journalists kind of dropped the ball on this one, because it has always been "he may have taken money" or "he said he received no compensation" and than finally, just when school is about to start, this comes out. Well, I guess they got their story, but as a fan of college basketball, I think this sucks. I thought it was great that Enes wanted to play US College Ball, and honestly I just do not understand this hypocritical system denying it. That is why I find the charges to be garbage, because the motives behind both the NCAA and Fenerbache Ulker. The guy says "oh, I just want to help with compliance, the NCAA is trying to uphold the standards of amateurism. I wanted to tell the truth." Telling the truth is honorable, I can not hate that, but saying that you were upset that Kanter left after investing time in him is weak sauce. It is up to him what he wants to do, not you. The only reason you are paying these players is to utilize their potential talents for your own personal gain, not theirs. They would probably sign him for 8 years and get a ridiculous buy out, and now, since they did not do it, they are trying to scrape together anything they can to break even. That is at least what I see. I know you are feeling me on this man, it is all business, so why do we, the consumer, get denied the product we want to see. It is all the stockholders and management, and to me that totally sucks. The only people who would not want to see Kanter play would be a) people that hate Kentucky, b) UW, c) people that do not like Turkish people, d) people trying to uphold the sanctity of a system that is beyond repair and finally e) People that want what they feel Enes owes them. Well, I say he owes them nothing, and that they swindled Kanter and his family in hopes that they could build a power player for their squad. Kanter's father is a professor, and he would be a student athlete (albeit for one year, but I am guessing he would at least be kind of a student) and these guys just want some more money in a down economy. Well, way to go Fenerbache, you did the right thing, for yourself. The NCAA could do the right thing for itself, but they will more than likely see things Fenerbache's way. All I can say is, it would have been fun to see Enes play college basketball. Now it looks like that is not happening, and I am definitely disappointed.

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Yea I don't buy the just

Yea I don't buy the just being honest excuse. I'm
not gonna hold kanter unaccountable though. I have a feeling before kanters name hot out there he made some kinda deal to play for this team for years and years but once his name got out there he wanted to leave so I can understand why they are upset although I don't agree what they are doing. The kid wants to play college ball so why trip him up even if you are upset.

I don't see anyway way he's gonna be able to play now

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????

is this a murder trial???? since when do we hold 17 year olds accountable for rules that 50 year old men are also breaking....

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The NCAA holds 17 year old

The NCAA holds 17 year old kids accountable. Dumb rule bit prob will
never change

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but if

I put a pipe bomb in their offices maybe they will think twice?????

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MWscout...

Who's this 50 yr old college player you are talking about?

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His best bet is to stay over

His best bet is to stay over Europe for a year to continue to play for PAY, or go the D-League route to try to raise his stock & come out like he's expected to. I really don't know much about this guy, but from what I keep reading from everyones threads this dude is the real deal. I would have loved to see him in competition with the American players in college, to see how well he would adjust to the transition to see if he would continue to "dominate" his peers.

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why cant getting paid to play

why cant getting paid to play basketball be like a summer job? most kids make money before they go to college in some sort of work, why shouldnt basketball be like that?

wouldnt it sound stupid if i said im gonna go to college and they denied me because i started a construction job 2 years before. and there reason was he already started a career so he cant go to school for a different one. its all messed up.

other ncaa athletes have made money either cutting yards, bagging groceries, or flipping burgers. playing basketball for money is a job. wheter you are 16 or 30. he was talented enough to play so he got paid, big deal. to me aau is shadier than overseas basketball.

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why cant getting paid to play

why cant getting paid to play basketball be like a summer job? most kids make money before they go to college in some sort of work, why shouldnt basketball be like that?

wouldnt it sound stupid if i said im gonna go to college and they denied me because i started a construction job 2 years before. and there reason was he already started a career so he cant go to school for a different one. its all messed up.

other ncaa athletes have made money either cutting yards, bagging groceries, or flipping burgers. playing basketball for money is a job. wheter you are 16 or 30. he was talented enough to play so he got paid, big deal. to me aau is shadier than overseas basketball.

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^ Excellent Post

I agree to the fullest with what you said, about playing ball should be a summer job too. All the camps, tournaments, pro am's etc. players go through a lot during the offseason to perform well during the season. So why not.

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Dleauge is a very bad idea.

Dleauge is a very bad idea. He can go play in a top leauge and do bad and his stick won't drop. He goes to the dleauge and his stock could take a big hit. Guys are all about getting there chance and won't be looking to boost his stock

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because

the ncaa is greedy and they want all the money to themselves....I'm a huge fan of elite HS players going overseas.....a part of me wants to see them 10 times a year on TV but if I was advising them on what was the right decision to make it would be that....

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I am willing to throw out my

I am willing to throw out my little review flag. I have a hard time believing this is if Fenerbahce Ulker was treating Kanter and his family as well as they claim - $20,000 and $25,000 a year in housing starting when he was 14 years old, an initial payment of $19,800, and monthly payments of $6,500 during Kanter’s final season with the team- why he would leave the club to spend a year at Stoneridge Preparatory School in California?

Also, if you are interested in this story check out this interview.

http://www.studyinamerica.com/exclusive/special-interview-john-calipari-...

Now, I am not one to believe anything that comes out of the mouth of John Calipari, but I will give him the benefit of the doubt on that Kanter's father is a doctor (half-kidding). I know doctors in most of the world are not as highly compensated as they are in the US, but doctors in Turkey don't need to have their teenage children provide the family with rent. Now, this doesn't mean that Enes did not get paid while he was in Fenerbahce, but the housing payments don't seem realistic. As for the salary, he played in nine games. He played more than 15 minutes in a game twice. Just think logically, a club is paying $6,500 a month for that? In Ricky Rubio's final year for DKV Joventut, he made 80,000 euros. He started! Kanter did not have a contract because of Turkish rules about players under 18, so why would Fenerbahce pay near starter money to a kid who they could not sign yet? Then, he doesn't come over from Turkey this summer, he came over last year and spent a year in prep school. Look, I don't buy the garbage about wanting to play at Kentucky and get an education. He could have spent the two years in Istanbul, and still pursued a degree in the US during the summers once he got into the NBA (as Amare Stoudemire has done). So if the club was paying him as much as they claim, why would he have left? Nothing about that move would seem logical.

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josh harrellson...lace em

josh harrellson...lace em up...your turn has come

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He wanted to come play

He wanted to come play college because that would raise his stock more the playing in weak Turkish leauge would. The team was thinking ling term they see the potential at a young age and figured they could have him playing for them till he goes to the NBA and get a team to pay for his buyout. I can understand them doing all the things they have done. Like I've said before sometimes people do things that don't make sense to one person but makes total sense to them

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Most likley vargas starts

Most likley vargas starts

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What makes things worst is

What makes things worst is the team has checks cashed by his family because banks keep those transactions. Can't even deny that since his parents signitures are on them

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Fenerbahce Ulker is in the

Fenerbahce Ulker is in the Euroleague, there is nothing weak about that competition.

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NBDL is in similar style to

NBDL is in similar style to NBA with less talent and no D. If Kanter can't dominate in the NBDL, then he won't make the NBA.

It will provide the best opportunity to show case his talent and skills to the NBA and there's no contractual issue that would hold him back. Kanter is almost a lock to start on any NBDL team.

If Kanter plays in Europe
1) he would likely be on the bench as Euroleague usually plays vets
2) he would probably need to sign some crazy contract that would be troublesome for him to make a jump to the NBA
3) this is exactly what his Turkish team wants him to do because the Turkish team can get a lot of compensation

After all, his Turkish team picks this time to screw Kanter over so that they can milk some compensation. The best case scenario for the Turkish team is if Kanter signs with another Euroleague team.

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Don't put him in the D-League

Don't put him in the D-League or Europe yet. I don't think the evidence will be both as clear and as mountainous as the NY Times article suggests.

What sense does it make for a guy being paid as much as these reports suggest to go play ball at a prep school? Why would he turn down two years in the Euroleague to play as an amateur in the US? This is an era where Andrea Bargnani has gone first overall, Rubio fifth, and both Yi and Gallinari sixth. Talent gets seen.

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Maybe he wants to play prep

Maybe he wants to play prep ball. One article said he wanted to raise his exposure to get drafted higher which makes perfect sense. Just look at the Lithuania guy who was supposed to go top three. Had a good euro leauge season but still dropped as the draft got closer then he pulled out while those who had good seasons in college moved up. Makes perfect sense for him to want to go to college and Kentucky is the perfect place to raise his stock even if he doesn't play great unlike turkey

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Kentucky Fans

Put down the Whisky and face the facts. The only way to make your program relevant again was to sell your souls. YOU ARE GOING TO BE ON PROBATION SOON AND YOU WONT WIN A TITLE. YOU HAD HALF THE FIRST ROUND ON YOUR TEAM LAST YEAR AND GOT SMOKED IN THE ELITE 8.

John Calipari has never legally been to a final four. Fact.
He has had 2 seasons Vacated. Fact.

In one offseason, you have a player whose rent was paid for by his coach and his grades alterred, A commit who was asking 200,000 bucks, a Professional player in Turkey that you are trying to bring in...the list goes on. Where there is smoke there is fire. If Cal loves the NBA so much he should coach there, but he is a mediocre game manager at best as he has proven, and is just good at being a used car salesman trying to work the system.

So when they do finally pin you with something, and you do go on probation, know that all of college basketball will be there to LOL in your faces. You made your bed now lay in it.

You should have never run Tubby out of Town. He's made a better program at Minnesota than Billy G could make for you.

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Lol. Who cares about vacated

Lol. Who cares about vacated stuff. You can't erase peoples mind. We all know Reggie bush won the heisman reguardless what the NCAA does

Marcus camby got money from a agent on his own. Nothing to do with coach cal
Derrick roses family had someone else take his s.a.t. Or maybe a friend of the family

did coach cal take his test for him. Did he become a agent and give camby money? He's no more responsible for there actions then thr ad for umass or the team trainer or the trainer for Memphis or there ad. Everyone knows when a player messes up the team pays for it and if the coach is involved then the coach pays for it. People can assume all they want but with no proof it's just hate just like people hate on coach k for maggattes family getting a nice place to live while he wS at duke even though they couldn't afford it and a duke alums finger prints were all over it

Or some who hate dean smith when Rasheed and stackhouse had Lexus that they couldn't afford or there family could afford. No proof though and not even a lil but if evidence pointing in his direction

Wait is it possible that players actually do things without the coachs knowledge. A coach that's only around the players during practice games study hall and when they check on them in class? Hmmmmm

As far as kanter ummm washgton also recruited him and had a commitment from him and other schools recruited him as well

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I usually agree with your posts, but your just flat out wrong on this. By your logic, a coach has no responsibility or accountability for his players. Any coach who has as many infractions under his watch as Cal, but "has no idea what his players are doing" must be an idiot. Now I don't think he is that....so there must be a middle ground.

A coach has to be accountable for his players at some level. I wouldn't venture to say that a coach is responsible for say, his player getting drunk at a bar and getting in a fight...but faking SAT scores (not just Rose but Doziers too), Taking money from Agents, Faking transcripts, "Allegedly" either paying recruits....the list goes on and on. Do you really believe Cal has no idea what was going on? His Academic progress level is atrocious, he runs kids out of scholarships when he is in a pinch...he just doesn't follow the ethics of college basketball at all. If thats the way you do business, then fine, do business and work in Professional ball. He is supposed to be working in Amatuer Athletics with Student athletes, but all he does is cheat, and bend rules, and play dumb, and its fans like you that perpetuate it. "How is he supposed to know what his players are doing" What a load of crap! Thats really what people In Kentucky are willing to put up with to stay on par with Duke, Carolina, Georgetown, Villanova, and Florida, programs who do it the right way.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me 3 or 4 times a year Every year, Shame on the NCAA.

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Paying recruits? You're

Paying recruits? You're basically saying if someone makes a accusation then it must be true

as far as getting money from a agent. You really think that's easy to find out? Camby and the agent met at the agents house and camby got money. How the he'll is a coach suppossed to find out about that. The only reason anyone found out us because the agent told. Rose wasn't even in college yet when he took his test so how is cal suppossed to know what's going on with that. So basically you should be blaming roses highschool coach as we or even more so since he was in hs

So if it comes out other players recieved money while at duke ( I know of one platter who's my firmer say teammate that got money from a booster) then coach k should be to blame?

You obviously never played college sports because if you did you would know how easy it is to get money from people without you're coach knowing.

matter of fact I have a former teammate who went to Miami and cheated on his tests so u guess there coach should be to blame as well

Like with mist things in America you need proof that Val had anything to do with ut and the NCAA is very very good at finding out and they have come up with nothing so all this cal cheating us nothing but talk. No different them
me accusding you of something

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