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Trey Burke to Orlando Magic

I keep seeing people around here talk about how the Magic need to take Trey Burke over Ben McLemore because it is a team need. Listen, as a Charlotte fan there is nothing I would like more than for that to happen so that Ben McLemore could fall into our laps. The thing about this is that it would be a stupid decision for the Magic. Some people like to say things like "oh we don't need this and this and this position because Harris or Davis or Afflalo or whoever plays that position well enough". Somehow it got into people's heads that the team is pretty well off and just needs to floor general to get the ball rolling, but the main issue with this is that the Magic had the worst freaking record in the league last year. It would be one thing if the Magic had been down collecting lottery picks like Charlotte, Washington, and Cleveland knowing they have a couple solid draft picks to not overdraft the position. This is the first year that the Magic have been down here in the lottery in a while, and like Phoenix, should not be picky. Pick the best player available, you are rebuilding pretty much from the ground up, and that should start by taking whoever is going to be best at whichever position. If Orlando lets Ben McLemore fall into our laps because they are overconfident about their current roster, they are idiots and don't deserve the best player available anyways.


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i think Trey Burke is the BPA

i think Trey Burke is the BPA in this draft and would be the best NBA player of all!

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If that's their opinion I

If that's their opinion I think that is totally fine, my grievance is that people keep mentioning drafting a PG because it's a position of need. If they think Ben McLemore is going to be better than Trey Burke and they don't take him because it would conflict with Arron Afflalo that is a serious problem.

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yeah i agree with you on

yeah i agree with you on that, the Magic doesn't have a superstar or allstar player so they can't play the no position in need card at all.

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I like Ben McLemore but he is

I like Ben McLemore but he is strictly a shooting guard because of his size and his skills, he will never be a point guard. He does seem like a hard worker so that will get him far in the league. To be honest though, Trey Burke will be the better player in the league. His combine measurements really helped him. He's 6 ft. without shoes and has a 6'5" wingspan.

I think his ceiling is Chris Paul although most will not agree with me.

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I'm a fan of acquiring talent

I'm a fan of acquiring talent and assets in the NBA, can always use assets to pick up a player you want via trade (see Houston acquiring James Harden). I guess this would be what the Magic front office feels about Trey Burke in comparison to Ben McLemore. Personally, I am not a big fan of McLemore, I think the deficiencies in his game will really be apparent at the next level. He isn't a good shooter off the bounce, he can't finish with his left and he has lapses in defense. Now, he could potentially get better, it would be silly of me to suggest he can't, he has good shooting percentages. I've just never been a fan of him on the five occasions I've watched him this season (granted, I could have seen him all on his worst games of the season).

I like Burke for his leadership and toughness. I just can't see him failing at the next level at all, his worst case scenario is as a rich man's Nate Robinson or maybe he'd end up as Jarrett Jack. He's got a very good handle, good passer and he has great range on his jumper (can get to the basket with regularity as well). Unless hindered by injury, it's tough for me to picture Burke failing.

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I remember Atlanta drafted

I remember Atlanta drafted what's his name over Chris Paul even though they were absolutely desperate for a pg and were already three deep at small forward. They stuck to best player on their board. Oops.

Burke also comes with a great support structure. Seems to be from a very good home and the Sullingers are like extended family.

I don't know all the details of McLemore's childhood, and he is easier to root for than Burke because of the challenges he's overcome, but Burke's support network makes passing on McLemore less likely to totally backfire.

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Strong Agree

McLemore is the right pick, or Noel if Cleveland overthinks things. Orlando is not going to be able to make the jump this season regardless of who they pick. Draft McLemore, be bad next year and draft Wiggins or Marcus Smart. Smart is who they need at point guard.

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Strong Agree

McLemore is the right pick, or Noel if Cleveland overthinks things. Orlando is not going to be able to make the jump this season regardless of who they pick. Draft McLemore, be bad next year and draft Wiggins or Marcus Smart. Smart is who they need at point guard.

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If Burke doesn't go to the Magic, how far does he fall

I think Burke would go to Sac at 7. For him to go there means that two of either Oladipo, Bennet, Len and Zeller are still on the board. Charlotte-Kemba, PHX-Dragic, N.O-Grevious- at 2 million is a steal. New Orleans has the first tough decision but I think hey pass on Burke and spent a lotto selection on Rivers last year. I don't see how they pass on Len or Zeller. Davis will flourish as a power forward who plays some center not the other way around.

I agree with you in general that bad teams need the best player not a need. Everybody is on the trade block anyway at any time so get the best player and he ideally is the better asset.

I think the first gap is potential in after Noel and McLemore, a short distance then Porter, Bennet, Dipo together, a big gap then Len, Burke then Zeller. I don't see a guy who will start this season after that list. They may not all start by season's end but I think they are the only ones with a shot. Remember Ross and Lamb didn't get hardly any run this year and would both be only pawns in a big time trade if one were to happen.

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I can definitely see them

I can definitely see them going for Burke at #2. Not only is he good and fills a need, but he has the mentality of a star and a leader, which McLemore does not. Orlando has some young talent, but they don't have anyone who'd take ownership of the team as a leader.

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But do you see Burke becoming

But do you see Burke becoming a star? What do you see his potential is? I definitely see him as an all star

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I don't agree with the way

I don't agree with the way any of you guys are looking at this. Look Ben McLemore is a good prospect but he's not a can't miss soo he's not somebody a team should draft just because he's on the board. I would argue that Oladipo is both a better fit for Orlando and is the same grade prospect as McLemore. Not really sure why people think BMac is the clear better prospect then Oladipo or why they assume he has more potential. They're both late bloomer and extremely athletic except Oladipo is more athletic has a higher IQ and skill level and a Kobesque work ethic.

I will say the only position the Magic do not need is a SF because Mo Harkless is a stud and had he stayed for his soph year at St. JOHNS the Magic would be drafting him 2nd if the Cavs didn't take him first.

Also Vucci Mane can play PF or C so drafting a big to compliment Vucevic is a possibility. Zeller would be a great compliment to Vucci.

Also I think CJ McCollum is every bit the prospect Lillard was last year and would also be considering him with the 2nd pick. CJ can come in and play both guard spots while learning from Nelson.

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Yeah the Magic actually have

Yeah the Magic actually have 2 stud Small Forwards. Tobias Harris and Maurice Harkless, Tobias can play small ball 4 perfectly, and I said it earlier this year and before the draft last year, that Harkless reminded me of Rudy Gay and Paul George, now people will look at Paul George's performance against the Heat and say i'm crazy but I still believe Harkless reminds me of those 2 and can be like them. He's a strong defender and driver, he needs to work on his jump shot.

It's crazy you have 2 stud small forwards and next years draft is full of stud small forwards.

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I actually think Harkless is

I actually think Harkless is a better prospect then George. Harkless is slightly more athletic, taller longer and not done growing. Harkless should peak at 6'10 and already is a banger and great finisher despite his lack of weight.

I know I'm hyping Harkless up crazy but look at the soph year Porter had at GTown, I'D argue that Mo was better and more impressive as a fresh then Otto as a soph. Now imagine if Mo played out his soph year he would of been hands down the best player in the Big East and combine his prolific production (20 n 10 possibly as a soph) with his youth and physical attributes and Mo would of been in discussion for the first pick.

Great thing about Orlando is positional versatility. Harkless can legitimitly start at both SG n PF. He can be groomed to play both positions. And Harris can start at both forward positions. I honestly think Orlandos front line is set with Mo, Tobias and Vucci. All 3 got All Star potential.

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Oh no man, I totally agree! I

Oh no man, I totally agree! I wrote a post about him during the season I believe he's a blue chipper and he can be just as good if not better than Paul George and Rudy Gay. Just imagine the length and athleticism they'd have if they drafted Wiggins, Randle, Gordon, or Parker in a year. Wow! Each of those guys can play 2 positions even though I think Wiggins is the only one that could slide to the 2.

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I dont think McLemore is a

I dont think McLemore is a cant miss All Star prospect but I do think at worst he will be a productive 6th man. If he can put that almost 6'8" Wingspan and his athletic ability to work on Defense with that outside shot you may have something. I think his skill set will get u a productive NBA player. Is he a first option? No but he might develop into a 2.

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McCollum

I agree he is going to get some buzz leading up to the draft. I do currently have him going number two in my mock. His injury has left him under the radar.

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I like ur mock except there

I like ur mock except there are a few glaring miscues. For one there is no way Porter last til the 9th pick. Norleans would grab him up if he were still availible because with Davis, Aminu and Ryan Anderson , Bennett is the last type of player they need. The Pelicans need a true big or a true wing not another hybrid. And Bennett isn't BPA wit Porter still there.

I love the idea of the Sixers getting Bazz.

I don't understand why the Thunder would draft Schroeder when they have Russ and Reggie Jackson.

I don't understand why Atlanta would pick to project centers with there 2 first round picks.

Canaan over Larkin? Not a bad idea.

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burke

They should pick Burke. On there current roster they have jameer nelson and affalo. I think Burke replacing Nelson is more beneficial considering there roster and Mcelmore is not a upgrade over affalo. They should take Burke then trade nelson if possible hand him the rains to the team like the caves did for kyrie and then the team looks promising and if they lose next year like this year there in place for another wing who could possibly play SG but there is no one who definitely is better than Burke. Also Burke and Mcelmore are the same age.

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I like Burke a lot but he's

I like Burke a lot but he's not an immediate upgrade over Nelson. In fact they're play styles are very similar except Nelson is a proven clutch shooter and leader in the NBA. Burke isn't on Nelsons level yet but he has the potential to be better in as little as a year just not as a rookie your underrating Jameer Nelson. Does anybody remenber what Meer Meer did in college? Like Burke he dominated only he did it for St Joes wit only Delonte West as help against much tougher college comp.

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Aaron Afflao was hurt and

Aaron Afflao was hurt and still put up decent numbers at the 2 spot. Mclemore would have to put up some really crazy numbers to be a better two guard than Aaron Afflao. I think people are consumed with hype. Aaron Afflao is also 27 and a very good defender. Also if you look at next years draft where there maybe a player that is better than Afflao, that would be the time to draft a shooting guard. Now would not maybe any sense. Mclemore is not Jordan or Kobe. If Mclemore was that good in this draft, he would be a definitely number one. Mclemore will be good shooting guard and a starter but he will probably not be a super star no matter how much hype and if Orlando is that certain, they need to trade Afflao. The spots that Orlando is solid at is the 2 and 3. Harris and Harkless are talented and skilled and one of them could take a Paul George type leap. You don't want to mess with that. Aaron Afflao is a solid 2 guard who can score and defend at a reasonable contract

Orlando needs to get younger and more talented at the 1 and 4 spot. The have a very good young big man at the 5 spot to go along with their young talented players at the 2 and 3. Everybody else on that team could be moved or replaced.

If I was Orlando I would try to move down to grave Burke and get rid of Hedo's contract in the process.

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Mclemore will go 1. Picking

Mclemore will go 1. Picking noel as the number 1 overall pick will as silly as picking Thabeet over Harden, Curry, Evans and Rubio or Darko over Melo, Bosh and Wade.

Magic will take Burke at 2 where he has a good a chance as any of winning ROY....

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Burke to Magic

Hi there. From a need standpoint, with Nelson, Afflalo and Harkless on board, you gotta like Zeller for the Magic. From a quality standpoint, Burke and McLemore are hard to ignore. I personally say you pass on Zeller and take Burke to succeed Nelson. You get a super value pick. McLemore makes sense, too. My two cents. Take care. Thanks.
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