I am a little surprised about how little love Trey Burke is receiving on Draft Boards. You have McLenmore who people question his drive, Noelwho has a bung knee and may stay perpetually stay skinny (see Marcus Camby), Bennett one year and undersized and Len unproven with health concerns. People say he's undersized but he is the same size as Chris Paul. He is a leader, he wants to be great and he is fearless. I would probably take him over most of these guys.
I really like Burke, depending on which team he is drafted to I think he could make a good run at the ROY honours....
Burke is one of my five favorite players in the draft, I want my Magic to pick him up but with the strength of next years draft I wouldn't mind them taking a risk on a Noel or McLemore to let them struggle (or sit out, in the case of Noel) for for this year so that we take a good player next year. But if the magic want to get a ready to play guy i would take Burke or, if possible, move back to 4 or 5 to get him.
Marcus Camby was very good for a long time. If Noel ever leads the leagues in blocks while also pulling down nearly 12 rebounds a game (because that is what Camby did a few times, and one year it was 13 rebounds per game), then yes he will justify going number one in the draft.
But Burke is really good. He will help any team.
If you look at how championship teams are built, it's not around great point guards. The last true superstar point guard to win a ring was Isaiah Thomas. JKidd got one late in his career, past his superstar years. Rondo got one as a 4th option, before his superstar years. Nash, CP3, DWill, all those guys, zero rings. I would want my team using a top 10 pick somewhere other than point guard.
would you want them to draft a position other than point guard with a top 10 pick if the best player available was a point guard, or if they need a point guard... I can't see Noel Being a centerpiece, and the there's a good chance that Oladipo, Porter, Bennett, McLemore, Zeller or Len don't become centerpieces of championship teams either (very few players in each draft do). Burke isn't a guaranteed star but if he's the best player available or you need a point guard and you have a top 10 pick then you take him or whoever the best point guard available is. I'm sure everyone would take Rajon rondo in the top 10 (2006) knowing what they know now even though he may not be a lone centerpiece he has been and can be a great star player or even 2nd option (or 3rd option if you're lucky)
... heard about tony parker ?...
Burke was getting mad love during the NCAA tourney and some posters here were very high on him before that. I like him but it's very hard project him if he isn't drafted past 8 as the teams in the 9-12 range already have a PG stud and have needs elsewhere. If somehow, some way the Jazz could steal him at 14, a core of Kanter, Favours, Hayward, Burks and then with a PG building block in Burke things would look very promising.
I see Burke as a Jameer Nelson-type player in the right situation. He is good, but I'm not sure there is a top 10 team that definitely needs him. The Pelicans and Kings both could draft him if they aren't higher on someone else, but if they pass on him, I could see him falling to the Jazz. Burke is very steady and efficient, but he will need to get even more creative off-the-dribble to become a good starting pg, as he lacks the speed and quickness to maintain his NCAA pick-and-roll success without absolutely maximizing his ballhandling ability.
I do worry about Burke as a top 5 pick because the pg position is so strong today it is hard for players with mediocre physical tools to become even average starters. Just about all of the NBA's top 15 pgs are more athletic than Burke and some other pgs with mediocre physical tools have been overdrafted in recent years (Acie Law IV, DJ Augustin, Brandon Knight, Jimmer Fredette, Nolan Smith, Kendall Marshall, Austin Rivers, etc.) Of course there are good pgs in the NBA without tremendous physical tools, such as Steph Curry and Steve Nash, but athletic pgs have panned out more often. This may be because pgs more reliably improve their games over the course of their career than players at other positions, limiting the value in picking "pro-ready" pgs.
Hes more DJ Augustine than CP3. Remember DJ Augustine won NPOY of the year his sophmore year he was a great college player too. I think Burke just doesn't have the physical tools to be a great player(lacks getting consistent separation) but can be a real solid player.
He's kinda like Kemba in the way that their size will hold them back from dominating or they would have to work twice as hard in defense. I still think Burke and walker are both starters idk about Agustin
Augustin did not win NPOY his sophomore year, that was Hansbrough. I see your point though and would also say he's closer to Kemba.
Trey Burke reminds me of Mike Bibby. I think Orlando needs to draft him 2. He's a natural leader, and that's what teams should look for in the point guard.
I think Burke will have to work twice as hard to be successful. His worst-case scenario is DJ Augustin, but he's got Chris Paul potential. Chris Paul is an extremely hard worker, if Trey develops a work ethic like Paul, he'll have a future as a starter, at worst. I'm hoping he gets picked up by the Magic, but I'm not too sure. He is a great player, I hope he does well.
I still would love for him to slide to my Pistons at #8, not sure if it will happen though
He would be buried 6 feet deep in their alrdy small backcourt
I would be happy if the Magic draft Burke or McLemore. I think Trey Burke will become an allstar. I do agree that Burke isn't getting enough respect on these boards. If Cleveland takes McLemore then the Magic I pray take Burke. Trey Burke if doesn't go to the Magic needs to be drafted by the Pelicians or the Kings. If he gets drafted by the Magic I will be buying a Trey Burke jersey.
Burke a king, time to let thomas joking around the bench, eventually the start of something for them....
Would have been legit for the magic, but they need to lose now and draft on a LT standpoint.