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- Posted on: Thu, 12/26/2013 - 7:37pm #53203
rickybobbyParticipantJust looking at their rosters this year Blazers are built pretty similar to the Pistons from the early and mid 2000s. You got your 3 scorers, an ultimate glue guy, and Defensive Post Presence and solid bench. The Blazers are just more offensive minded and the Pistons were more defensive minded.
Lillard = Billups: Scoring guards who can also set their teammates up.
Matthews = Hamilton: Shooters Hamilton more mid range and Mathews more 3pt.
Batum = Prince: Do it all type of players, good defenders
Aldridge = Rasheed Wallace: Big men who can get it do inside and out.
Lopez = Ben Wallace: Defensive minded bigs and rebounders
Mo Williams = Carlos Arroyo/ Lindsay Hunter: Williams a better scoring version but all can play at the 1 or 2 with another pg on the floor.
Thomas Robinson = McDyess: Athletic Bigs who can hit mid-range Js, score some in the post, rebound alittle bit.
Dorell Wright = Carlos Delfino: Solid defenders and 3pt shooters.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/26/2013 - 7:43pm #859222
FearTheStacheParticipantThe blazers remind me of last year’s spurs. A fast-paced, high volume 3, well coached team, with all star caliber players but no superstars
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/26/2013 - 7:43pm #859114
FearTheStacheParticipantThe blazers remind me of last year’s spurs. A fast-paced, high volume 3, well coached team, with all star caliber players but no superstars
0- Posted on: Fri, 12/27/2013 - 1:00am #859144
max23ParticipantIf Aldridge isnt a superstar,then id love to know your definition of one…
Imo he is one,at least on offense.I dont think that piston team would have anyone shoot 20 shots a game(Aldridge is second to Carmelo in fga per game)so i dont really see the comparison to that team offensively as far as not having a superstar and definately not defensively.
0- Posted on: Fri, 12/27/2013 - 6:36am #859188
FearTheStacheParticipantMy bad, bad wording. I mean he isn’t an elite superduper, worldwide star, like a Lebron, KD, CP3 or Kobe. His numbers are really good, but I don’t ever really think he will be a name like those guys. Case in point, I doubt he will ever be voted as a starting all star. His numbers might warrant it, but he’s not nearly as huge as the stars mentioned above. See what I mean now? Obviously, he has superstar stats, but he is not a once in a decade, generational player.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 12/27/2013 - 6:36am #859295
FearTheStacheParticipantMy bad, bad wording. I mean he isn’t an elite superduper, worldwide star, like a Lebron, KD, CP3 or Kobe. His numbers are really good, but I don’t ever really think he will be a name like those guys. Case in point, I doubt he will ever be voted as a starting all star. His numbers might warrant it, but he’s not nearly as huge as the stars mentioned above. See what I mean now? Obviously, he has superstar stats, but he is not a once in a decade, generational player.
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- Posted on: Fri, 12/27/2013 - 1:00am #859252
max23ParticipantIf Aldridge isnt a superstar,then id love to know your definition of one…
Imo he is one,at least on offense.I dont think that piston team would have anyone shoot 20 shots a game(Aldridge is second to Carmelo in fga per game)so i dont really see the comparison to that team offensively as far as not having a superstar and definately not defensively.
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- Posted on: Thu, 12/26/2013 - 7:45pm #859224
ChewyParticipantThomas Robinson= McDyess?! Poor poor Antonio… This comparison hurts to read. The starters are relativly comparable tho…
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/26/2013 - 7:45pm #859116
ChewyParticipantThomas Robinson= McDyess?! Poor poor Antonio… This comparison hurts to read. The starters are relativly comparable tho…
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/26/2013 - 8:31pm #859232
rickybobbyParticipantYea the old man McDyess that shot mainly jump shots. Well I should have said a much less polished McDyess but still the comparison is also taking in their roles of being the first big off the bench.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/26/2013 - 8:31pm #859124
rickybobbyParticipantYea the old man McDyess that shot mainly jump shots. Well I should have said a much less polished McDyess but still the comparison is also taking in their roles of being the first big off the bench.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/26/2013 - 10:31pm #859236
Sharp ShooterParticipantToo bad they won’t have the same results as the pistons….blazers just a regular season team…when playoff team comes around they will get exposed.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/26/2013 - 10:31pm #859128
Sharp ShooterParticipantToo bad they won’t have the same results as the pistons….blazers just a regular season team…when playoff team comes around they will get exposed.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/26/2013 - 11:24pm #859136
Jester87ParticipantNot really, the Pistons were a slow pace defensive minded team with an average or slightly below average offense. The Blazers aren’t one of the fastest team in the league (mostly because the game has changed a lot since then) but they’re still a lot faster than those Pistons and while they are currently the best offense in the league, their defense is mediocre at best. Even for the individual comp:
1) Lillard might remind Billups because they’re both great closers and shooting first PGs (though Billups improved much his playmaking ability under Brown), but Billups in his best days was one of the best defensive point men in the league. Lillard is not even close.
2) Hamilton made a living coming off screens and shooting mid range jumpers or attacking the rim off curls. He was also a good secondary ball handler. Matthews is mostly a 3pt spot up shooter and a transition guy who doesn’t create much off the bounce. In a way it’s true that they’re both shooters, but there’s a great difference between shooting on spot ups and coming off screens/off the bounce. Not only for the shooters, it’s just a totally different thing both for your offense and for opponent’s defense.
3) They do have something in common, both a bit of a point forward, long, lanky, versatile, athletic. I think this is the closest one, especially considered relative roles in their teams, though there are still many differences (some of them have a lot to do with the way game has changed).
4) There might be some similarity on offense, though Aldridge plays a bigger role for the Blazers, but Sheed was an elite defender and Aldridge is not even close on that side of the ball.
5) Wallace was undersized, a non threat on offense, Lopez is big, can hold his own in pick and roll situations and shoots free throws very well for a big. Lopez is a very good defender and a competent rim protector, but Ben Wallace was just a beast on D. Lopez is just an interior presence, Wallace could also move his feet and contain perimeter players for 2 or 3 steps and that made him such a unique defender.I don’t wanna go any further, because you’ve forgotten some of the most important bench players for those Pistons teams. The year they won the title their bench was made of: Corliss Williamson, Okur, Sura, Chucky Atkins, Elden Campbell, Hunter. Definitely a lot deeper.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/26/2013 - 11:24pm #859244
Jester87ParticipantNot really, the Pistons were a slow pace defensive minded team with an average or slightly below average offense. The Blazers aren’t one of the fastest team in the league (mostly because the game has changed a lot since then) but they’re still a lot faster than those Pistons and while they are currently the best offense in the league, their defense is mediocre at best. Even for the individual comp:
1) Lillard might remind Billups because they’re both great closers and shooting first PGs (though Billups improved much his playmaking ability under Brown), but Billups in his best days was one of the best defensive point men in the league. Lillard is not even close.
2) Hamilton made a living coming off screens and shooting mid range jumpers or attacking the rim off curls. He was also a good secondary ball handler. Matthews is mostly a 3pt spot up shooter and a transition guy who doesn’t create much off the bounce. In a way it’s true that they’re both shooters, but there’s a great difference between shooting on spot ups and coming off screens/off the bounce. Not only for the shooters, it’s just a totally different thing both for your offense and for opponent’s defense.
3) They do have something in common, both a bit of a point forward, long, lanky, versatile, athletic. I think this is the closest one, especially considered relative roles in their teams, though there are still many differences (some of them have a lot to do with the way game has changed).
4) There might be some similarity on offense, though Aldridge plays a bigger role for the Blazers, but Sheed was an elite defender and Aldridge is not even close on that side of the ball.
5) Wallace was undersized, a non threat on offense, Lopez is big, can hold his own in pick and roll situations and shoots free throws very well for a big. Lopez is a very good defender and a competent rim protector, but Ben Wallace was just a beast on D. Lopez is just an interior presence, Wallace could also move his feet and contain perimeter players for 2 or 3 steps and that made him such a unique defender.I don’t wanna go any further, because you’ve forgotten some of the most important bench players for those Pistons teams. The year they won the title their bench was made of: Corliss Williamson, Okur, Sura, Chucky Atkins, Elden Campbell, Hunter. Definitely a lot deeper.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 12/27/2013 - 8:33am #859210
rickybobbyParticipantYea i know Detroits bench the year they won the title was better, but i was compairing them to the teams they had after they won the title. If i was comparing them to just the championship team i wouldnt have included McDyess, Arroyo or Delfino. And as far as them playing different styles i mentioned that when i said Blazers more offensive minded and Pistons more defensive minded. And as far as the player comparisons i wasnt saying they were the exact same but their roles and playing styles were pretty much the same
0 - Posted on: Fri, 12/27/2013 - 8:33am #859317
rickybobbyParticipantYea i know Detroits bench the year they won the title was better, but i was compairing them to the teams they had after they won the title. If i was comparing them to just the championship team i wouldnt have included McDyess, Arroyo or Delfino. And as far as them playing different styles i mentioned that when i said Blazers more offensive minded and Pistons more defensive minded. And as far as the player comparisons i wasnt saying they were the exact same but their roles and playing styles were pretty much the same
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