NBA.com has an article up about five players they think could be traded by the trade deadline. If you were going to trade these players, where do you think, they should land and for whom should they be traded for?
Man, we didn't even start the season yet.
However, I do agree with Iguadala and Jeff Green. Iggy has failed in my eyes in Fiba and as good as OKC and Green is: He cannot be a 4 on a title contending team.
You can't say that Igoudala should be traded based on how he's played during FIBA play. FIBA and NBA are two totally different games.
Alright, let's look at his overall then.
He's clearly a #2 (arguable #3) on a title team
He makes #1 money
He plays a similar game to your recent #2 pick
All of that means he should and could be traded this year.
^^ I agree with all the points you just made, but before you said he should be traded because of how he has played in FIBA, which you shouldn't say because FIBA and the NBA are two totally different games.
I never understand this... why do people repeat themselves?
I said it 10000 times on past posts. Andre Iguadala is a good player. He's more a #3 to me who think he's a #1. That's never good.
Yes, I understand I said it because of FIBA rules but I said it before in the past some of the things I didn't like about him. You don't have to say TWICE that I said that I said it about FIBA rules because: I know I said it.
I don't get where he's failed in FIBA, he wasn't placed on the team for scoring he was placed there for defense, passing, and fitting a role. And he's pretty much done that here. As far as the NBA goes I do agree that he's no a #1 and he'd fit much better as a guy that's main job is too defend the other teams top wing, and give you some pts, rebounds, and ast.
How could I not understand what I said? Come on now...
You must have not watched some of the previous games.
He's not shooting well ( He airballed 4 times). He's not a Elite Defender, He's not clutch (at all) on defense in the end of there " close" games (Spain, Brazil) and what's worst: He makes the face like "I'm a star, that's not a foul on me" when you should just take your foul and keep it moving.
I said before the games that I would love him as my #2 but his recent play and little things he shown me on the court at FIBA ( where he should be a ELITE defender considering 80-85 percent of these guards have no NBA experience) that I wouldn't touch him as a #2 and I would take him as a #3. That's just me. He could prove me wrong this upcoming season. Who Knows?
Where I think these 5 could be good fits. Not saying there going to be traded to there but where I think they'll be good fits.
Andre Iguodala-ATL (he would be the 3rd option behind Johnson and Horford), NYK (if New York could possibly work up a deal, I think he would be a great in D'Antonio system with STAT), DAL, GSW
Chauncey Billups-MEM for expiring contracts..thats the only team that I could think of cause most teams have reliable PG's, I guess Indy? But I could imagine Billups only wanting to be traded to a playoff caliber team
AK47-NJN(the russian connection and hes an expiring contract), I really cant think of anyone else
Jeff Green-LAL, LAC, WAS, NJN?
Jason Thompson-PHO, MIL, UTAH, PHI, CHA?
I agree with most of them except for AK-47. Why:
I've been a Utah fan for a long time, so I've been through those dismal seasons when AK was earning so much money yet not producing anything. I tried to find a few trades for using the trade machine and there isn't much. Maybe Rip Hamilton and Tayshaun Prince for him, but is he really worth 2 veterans who are not bad players themselves and can shoot quite well? I heard that they were offered Shawn Marion for him once (This was back when Marion played for Toronto or Miami I think), but we didn't accept and now look at Marion, he is not doing that well compared to AK. And just last year he finally got it together and then got hurt. I thought to myself, he is actually a pretty valuable asset to have. (I just wish his contract wasn't so huge) But seriously if Utah just wades it out for this year and does not trade him then resign him for much much less (( think he'd be willing to sign it now that he realizes he's not worth that much anymore) like say 5 mil. then Utah can have a tough defender, 3 pt shooter, who can play 2 positions quite well for only 5 mil. That is pretty valuable come playoff time, so much valuable that I think Deron will still want to sign an extension in 2 years. And by 2 years he and Big AL will have to gel and we could start seeing comparisons to John Stockton and Karl Malone!!! AK 47 is pretty valuable now, I don't think Utah should trade him. (Unless we get blown out of the water by some deal, but do you really think that's going to happen for a player that is only worth about 5 million.)
Well, more of a compound word... DUMBASS! LOL! =P
The Kings traded away Scott Hawes to bring in Samuel Dalambert who expires next summer this gives them a year’s worth of Big Sam or a valuable trading chip with his large expiring deal. I’d guess that Geoff Petrie’s thinking was they can use Dalambert to start for a year or until Cousins is ready to assume the C role full time and that Thompson and Landry fill the PF minutes. Landry proved his worth both as a 6th man or as a starter so could be used in either role.
The case to trade Thompson could be if they decided to keep Big Sam or maybe to land a top line talent to slot in alongside Evans and Cousins they have the attractive trade prospect of Dalambert’s expiring deal and a young piece like Thompson. This would enable Petrie to retain future draft picks which shorter term may well stiil be lottery ones.
Any Jeff Green trade would revolve around them getting in a more natural PF as Durant now seems to have moved to SF full team with Sefo as the starting SG and James Harden as an impact 6th man aka Ben Gordon, Manu Ginobli. If Cole Aldrich can develop into a starting C then Kristic could even move over to PF giving them more frontcourt height or logically they trade Green for a PF with a more physical inside game. Green can be renewed any time now but with other renewals due for the following few years then the Thunder will have limited room to sign any major FA’s unless they go into luxury tax territory which for a smaller team could be a problem.
One PF who may be available is David West who has a team option next year and any package involving Jeff Green may be very attractive to NOH as it gives them another young piece which might please Chris Paul or helps them to rebuild with if CP3 does move on eventually. Also it gives them some security if West did move on next summer.
The Thunder get a guy who can put up 18/8, gives them an inside front court scoring option, someone with playoff experience and maybe someone they could renew next year for less than Green may demand. Also with Green being 8 or so years younger than West then the Thunder could maybe get a sweetener from the trade.
Potential Iggy trades have been discussed before and a team looking to continue rebuilding or one looking for a legit 2nd option would probably consider him but Philly would surely try to package Brand along with him for any trade to go through unless they received very good talent packs or the right expiring contracts and picks.
AK47 is probably overpaid despite his versatility and great defensive game and no doubt a lot of contending teams will be looking at him next summer who may be a better position than the Jazz to either offer him a chance to win a title or offer him a better package. Utah could look to do and S and T and get something back in return and AK47’s market value could be from MLE up to $10 million plus a season given his all round game but also taking into account that Ron Artest took MLE to get onto a genuine contender like the Lakers.
Utah have Deron, Jefferson, Okur and Millsap all on large contracts beyond next season but do have room to re-new AK47 but given the size of his expiring deal then he’d be a huge trade bait before you consider what he brings to court so getting an established star on a longer deal may persuade Deron to decide to sign a new deal sooner. Also they get an expiring contract or a younger piece as part of any deal.
Maybe a deal with Philly for Iggy sending AK47 the other way could work perhaps with Philly sending Nocioni the other way and maybe Utah sending Koufos or Tomic to Philly. This clears a lot of Philly’s larger contracts so they can go into rebuild mode and means they will only have Brand and Williams on large contracts come next summer. They get AK47 who will help them defensively or who they can trade on due to his expiring contract value or if a contender wants defensive reinforcements. Philly also gets a young big to compete with Speights and Hawes for the frontcourt minutes.
Utah get a scoring SG/SF in Iggy who should excel with Deron as his provider and they have a young established core in Deron, Iggy, Jefferson and Millsap whilst Nocioni can fill the 6th man role and help to fill in whilst Hayward develops.
The Nuggets will surely only look to trade Billups if Melo moves as no doubt Billups may well request a trade if the team’s franchise player was traded. Billups is pushing 34 years old but has played so of his best ball in recent years and has shown no real decline. Given his leadership skills and all round game then a lot of contenders would be very interested in him with his team option contract for next year giving them 2 years if required out of him and not clogging up the cap when major 2012 FA’s come on the market.
Likely destinations IMO could be Portland who with Roy and Billups as their backcourt would be a potential defensive lockdown and Billups play off experience would be a huge boost for a youngish Portland side. Andre Miller played with success in Denver and if they go into rebuild mode would be a good player to help bring out the best in the younger players. Portland have Claver, Freeland and Koponen all stashed away so could send one of these as a sweetner or a future first round pick or even Big Priz’s expiring deal if the salaries need to be balanced more closely. Denver get a good veteran PG who can help Ty Lawson to develop and a young piece or a future first round pick etc.
Another more far fetched trade that struck me is the Spurs trade Tony Parker for Billups, I know that Parker is 28 and 6 years younger than Billups but he expires next year and might walk away leaving the Spurs with nothing. Getting Billups negates this as with his team option they can evoke this or it gives Ric Burford a great trading piece to play with next summer. It also gives another year for George Hill to develop and with Billups expiring in 2012 if the team option is taken up it will fit in perfectly with when Tim Duncan’s contract expires. Also Coach Poppovich would love Billups defensive qualities and his play off experience would be a perfect match for the Spurs.
Denver would get a PG who expires next summer and who plays to a level similar to Billups so regardless of what happens to Melo they have a younger player who they may be able to extend and gives them a possible core alongside Nene, Harrington, Anderson and Lawson to start rebuilding around.
That is pretty valuable come playoff time, so much valuable that I think Deron will still want to sign an extension in 2 years. And by 2 years he and Big AL will have to gel and we could start seeing comparisons to John Stockton and Karl Malone!!!
Did anyone stop reading after this?