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Trade Lebron for Dwight Howard

This would obviously work.

Chalmers
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Bosh
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not for the magic when they

not for the magic when they have no post player

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i thought of this before

I said it before http://nbadraft.net/forum/lebron-apologists#comment-322688 and i got negative points. The magic will change their entire roster to build around lebron if they do it will be good for both teams.

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I don't get these ridiculous

I don't get these ridiculous posts of trades that will never ever ever ever happen. These are like video game trades that would never happen in real life.

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Trade Bosh

Bosh is not the answer for the Heat at PF. They need a defensive minded guy that can guard all the other elite power forwards in the league, get double digit rebounds, and finish in the paint.

Bosh is an All-Star by default. If Bosh had Haslem's will, and Haslem had Bosh's height, Miami would still be playing.

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Name me the PF that does that Johnny Chill

What's that? You can't? Because he does not freaking exist?

Chris Bosh is not the issue, despite all of the hate that has been coming his way. Dirk Nowitzki is the best PF in the league, and he can not guard Chris Bosh and at times does not get double digit rebounds. Know who else can not guard Chris Bosh and has the same issue? Amare Stoudemire. So, I would love to know where this PF is, other than possibly in the 60's by today standards in Bill Russell.

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^ he exists he is just old,

^ he exists he is just old, his name is Tim Duncan

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Timmy sure set the world on fire

This postseason. Timmy is a legend, and a fantastic player, he is in my All-Time Top 10, but he is not the force he used to be, and was still around, hence my bringing up Russell. You could throw in KG as well, who has the same issues.

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Wow...

Wow...

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bosh may well be the best

bosh may well be the best player on the heat... He ended up playing much better than lebron.

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Bosh is soft

and a cry baby.... when he got poked in the eye, i thought someone shot him from the way he was laying on the court.

He is not the best player on the Heat. STFU with that.

I can name a few PFs that fit with Lebron and Wade, also are better than Bosh that can play defense, rebound, and finish in the paint.

Lamarcus Aldridge, Pau Gasol, Zach Randolph, Luis Scola, Dejuan Blair, Elton Brand.

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I can name a few PFs that fit

I can name a few PFs that fit with Lebron and Wade, also are better than Bosh that can play defense, rebound, and finish in the paint.

Lamarcus Aldridge, Pau Gasol, Zach Randolph, Luis Scola, Dejuan Blair, Elton Brand.

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Wow that list has all kinds of terrible examples.

Aldridge is the only one that makes any sense, he is actually very similiar to Bosh. Bosh over his career has actually been the slightly better rebounder. Aldridge is however a bit of a better defender than Bosh.

I would agree that Gasol is a bit better overall than Bosh. But Bosh actually played better than Gasol in the playoffs, is four years younger and stretches the floor better than Gasol making him a better fit with Wade and Lebron.

Randolph is a very good rebounder but he's just as bad (if not worse) defensively as Bosh. Saying he can play defense is a joke.

Scola is another guy who cannot defend. He's also not a better rebounder than Bosh and his offensive game isn't as well rounded either. He's also 4 years older than Bosh.

Blair is stronger and a better rebounder (per 36 minutes) than Bosh but his length and limited offensive game prevents him from getting more than 21 MPG for the Spurs. Trade Bosh for Blair and any objective fan would tell you that the Spurs would be much improved and the Heat would be taking a step back.

Elton Brand in his prime perhaps you would be right but right now Bosh is a much better fit for the Heat. At this stage of their careers Bosh is the better rebounder and the more consistant and efficient scorer. When Bosh's contract with the Heat runs out he will be the same age that Brand is right now.

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JohnnyChill While I agree

JohnnyChill

While I agree with what you said, DeJuan Blair and Elton Brand are not better fits for Miami than Bosh. Blair isn't the midrange shooter that Bosh is and Elton Brand is not athletic enough to be able to run with Chalmers, Wade, LeBron, Haslem, and Joel Anthony.

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@Johnny Chill

I guess DeJuan Blair is better than Chris Bosh.

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Blair is a better defender, a better rebounder, a better finisher in the paint than Bosh.

Bosh is so skinny, he gets pushed around too much.

Lebron gets more rebounds than him, Wade blocks more shots than him.

Blair would not allow that to happen.

Not many teams are able to run in the playoffs. The game is a lot slower pace.

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Blair is not a better

Blair is not a better defender. He has a bigger body but Bosh's length and athleticm make him better. Especially on the perimter, not just in the paint. And Blair is NOWHERE near a better finisher than Bosh.

  • Bosh rebounds per game: 8.3
  • James rebounds per game: 7.5

Hell, if you want to talk about blocks, Blair averages 0.5 a game! Wade doubles that and they some.

If you haven't watched Blair play, don't you dare say he's better than Bosh. That's just a disgrace.

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@Johnny Chill

Yeah because Blair is an all NBA player and multiple time all-star. Good analysis

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The Heat don't run much,

The Heat don't run much, Blair isn't the answer.

Bosh doesn't fit with what Miami needs really and he needs the ball he's an offensive player who needs shots.

If Dwight Howard says he wants to stay in Orlando and means it why would they trade him.

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I can't remember Bosh ever getting a crucial defensive rebound in game 6 with Dallas was missing shots. I can't remember Bosh coming over to block any shots. I can't even remember if Bosh even took a shot in the paint.

Bosh is a poor man's Dirk, with out the range, or a taller Mike Dunleavy.

Anyways, my point being: The Heat aint gonna trade Lebron or Wade. If any of the big 3 would be trade, it is Bosh. Plug any other PF in the league into the Heat starting lineup and they won't miss a beat.

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"taller Mike Dunleavy" Times

"taller Mike Dunleavy"

Times like these that I lose all hope in mankind...

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Bosh fan? lol

How about this: taller, blacker, wimper Mike Dunleavy.

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Unbiased basketball fan.

Unbiased basketball fan.

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Wimper? And you don't have to

Wimper? And you don't have to be a Bosh fan to realize that he's better than DeJuan Blair and Elton Brand.

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You keep on saying Bosh is better than Brand and Blair. Give some examples. I'm sure you mean offensively. The problem is Bosh is a mid range jump shooter. He cant rebound or play defense like Blair or Brand, which really hurt the Heat.

Also I notice how you dont mention the other PFs I mentioned. Aldridge, Gasol, Randolph. Scola. Hmmm....

Again all you do is make comments, without much substance and you ignore the main points I have made about Bosh.

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I posted this trade a few

I posted this trade a few days ago too. It works for the Heat. I think the Magic would be ok because they would have shooters and a very good point guard to put around LeBron. Plus a good power forward in Brandon Bass. The Magic wouldn't have a center, so maybe the Heat would have to throw in Joel Anthony.

But the Heat would be great with the best wing player in the league (Wade), the best center (Howard) and a good 3rd option who had a good playoffs (Bosh). Chalmers would be a good fourth scorer who could hit big shots and defend point guards. Udonis Haslem would still be the third big guy and they would have Dexter Pittman at backup center (if they have to trade Joel Anthony too). They would be weak at the 3 but they would have a couple of good shooters in James Jones and Mike Miller. They might be able to draft a good small forward, maybe Chandler Parsons or Kyle Singler if he falls. DeAndre Liggins would be a tough, hard-nosed defensive wing who would fit in well with those guys.

I think this trade would help Miami a lot and also shake up the Magic and turn them into contenders.

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sup ur really funny

sup ur really funny

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Why would the Heat trade

Why would the Heat trade Lebron when he's there best player? I understand ppl that don't think Lebron is that good from watching this series, but if you watched the entire playoffs and regular season he was arguably the best player in the league

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damm i really miss the negative button...

Aran this is Scare Crow speaking, bring it back please, posters are getting dumber by the day...Howard for Lebron...Wow...

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Is it just me?

Or would you have to really hate LeBron James to actually want to trade him whatsoever? You can trade him for Dwight Howard and hope that solves all of Miami's problems, it might, as Center's are indeed a valuable commodity and Howard is the best. But, LeBron James is the best player in basketball right now, and you were just two games away from the Finals. A few teams are exceptions, but usually you take a while before developing chemistry with all of your team mates, and get better over time when you have a talented team. The Lakers lost to the Celtics in 2008? Did they blow up the team? Nope, waited until next year and than the year after that and snagged a couple trophies.

Also, while I am sure people will say, "but he will have Wade and Bosh to score", keep in mind that Dwight Howard takes 13.5 shots per game as the primary offensive option. Chris Bosh took more as the third option for Miami. Granted, Wade and Bosh would indeed be averaging more points, but does Howard become more of a threat on offense with those guys? Not to mention, if you talk about someone who is a liability in the 4th quarter, it usually does not get better than the Center that struggles at the FT line. Just things to think about before saying that trading LeBron James for Dwight Howard would solve all of the teams issues.

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LaMarcus Aldridge has come into his own

But honestly, I would probably rather have Bosh. I do not think things with Bosh are as black and white as you make them. Did you the two games Chris Bosh had against the Lakers? He did a pretty damn good job on Pau Gasol, and got the better of Pau in both match-ups. Plus, you realize Dirk Nowitzki was shooting something like 78 % when being guarded by Pau, right? Just checking.

DeJuan Blair got eaten alive inside in the Grizzlies series. He averaged a hwhopping (with the h sound at the beginning) 4.3 ppg and 3.3 rebounds in the Memphis series. DeJuan is a great rebounder, incredibly hard working and can get some nice low post buckets, he even has a monster wing span that basically makes him a legit sized PF despite his lack of height. But, how would he do against Dirk Nowitzki and Tyson Chandler, not to mention Carlos Boozer and Joakim Noah. Thought so.

Elton Brand is very similar to Blair, except in his day he was even more athletic and a decent shot blocker. The problem is, this is not his day. Elton Brand currently is making more money than Chris Bosh, and does less. Plus, while he played a the majority of games this year, he has serious issues regarding durability. Not to mention that when the played each other, Bosh basically ate him alive. So, again, will veto that one.

You have to like Luis Scola, he is a grinder and may indeed be a good fit with Miami. The problem is, he is 4 years older than Chris Bosh, and he has neither the length or defensive ability. Plus, it is not exactly like he plays with his back to the basket as much as he faces up. All in all, Chris Bosh was in a situation incredibly similar to Scola, maybe even with less talent (and bare in mind Houston had injuries, and still had more talent) and averaged 24 ppg and 11 rpg while almost taking his team to the play-offs.

Z-Bo is another very solid player, and he had a fantastic play-offs. However, while Zach is undoutedly a better rebounder and far superior low post scorer to Bosh, his defense is still incredibly suspect. Snowballs chance in hell against Nowitzki? Going with no. Z-Bo is also pretty much a black hole, like Bosh much better as a passer, and if Chris Bosh stepping up in the paint was not able to bother JJ Barea, Zach had no chance there again. Bosh is also much better in transition and a better runner. Add to the fact that Zach has been a player who constantly has not only had trouble with the law, but also gets paid more than Chris Bosh and is slightly older, and I say Bosh wins that battle.

That leads me to LaMarcus. I am very familiar with LaMarcus, as is Chris Bosh who has worked out with him for an incredibly long time as they are both from Texas. LaMarcus put on some weight this year, and it did wonders for his strength and post game. However, he was no longer as mobile and quick as he used to be. Bosh actually did much the same thing before signing with the Heat, but did not like the way it felt and preferred to keep his mobility, which is why he decided to trim down again. Even so, I do not think Chris Bosh was being "pushed around", and even if he was, it was incredibly minimal compared to what he did otherwise. Still, Chris Bosh was indeed a Free Agent at the time, and he has been much more durable than Amare Stoudemire, and Carlos Boozer for that matter. Going into the summer, he was probably considered a hotter commodity than either of them, and while Amare put up numbers in New York, his knee problems were incredibly evident later on in the year. You could say you would rather have an injured Amare Stoudemire than a healthy enough to play well Chris Bosh, but I think you would be making a mistake in thinking that would make your team any better.

Why does nobody do research or think before making such outrageous statements? Really, I did not have to do this, but I hope you maybe learn something. All statistics taken from basketball-reference.com.

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@Johnny Chill

How can Bosh not rebound? He averaged 11 rebound last season and averages 9.3 for his career. When is that considered a bad rebounder? LaMarcus Aldridge is good, but hewouldnt average 19 and 8 on a team with LeBron James and Dwyane Wade. Nor would Pau Gasol or Luis Scola. They barely put up those numbers with the teams they play with now. You say Bosh is a bad defender, when DeJuan Blair gets bullied in the paint and can easily be shot over, while Bosh's length, height and athleticism doesn't let that happen. You don't know what the hell your talking about.

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Well, Pau Gasol might, but

Well, Pau Gasol and Z-Bo might, but not the other 2.

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