Toronto Raptors Front Court Dilemna
The Toronto Raptors are a team desperately struggling this year although they have a good looking group of players able to start at PF. Toronto has four very good PF players in Evans, Davis, Johnson and Bargnani although Bargnani is playing the C position. Reggie Evans is a dominant rebounder with great heart and leadership, Ed Davis is looking like a future impact defensive presence, Amir Johnson is a great energy player who continues to improve, and Andrea Bargnani is an extremely versatile scorer. Although all four are talented and could be extremely usefull they do not complement eachothers games when on the court unless playing a small team do to the fact that none of them are suitable to play the C position. I am wondering which direction the Toronto Raptors will go in the future with this frontcourt. Here is a little assessment and breakdown on the frontcourt based on facts, stats, and a bit of my own opinion.
This young rookies not putting up a double double as his season average, and is not exactly blowing people away in any single stat other then his 60% shooting overall, although he has been a great competitor and nightly gives a great effort on opposing bigs. Ed understand screens, and picks well especially for a guy his age and has a great understanding for the game. He definitely has his rookie moments, needs to work on his jumpshot which has shown improvement, his FT shooting, and defensively he does get pushed around at times do to his slight size. For a defensive frontcourt player in this league his Rookie stats are amazing, and in his last 13 games he has been averaging 9.6-ppg, 8.8-rpg, 1.2-bpg, 1.2-spg and 63%-fgs in 26-mpg.
It is really hard to compare his game to any NBA player in the league right now. the best one I can think of is Joakim Noah. They both won NCAA Titles (even know Noah was the leader of his team and Davis was a freshman), they both were doubted by critics when entering the draft, both were considered defensive PF's, both played behind players in a tight rotation as rookies, and both went in the late lottery as selections.
Ed's Rookie Statistics- 23-mpg, 60%-FG, 53%-FT, 7-ppg, 6.9-rpg, 0.5-apg, 1.1-bpg, 0.6-spg, 2.4-PF, 0.6-TO
Joakim Noah Stats- 20-mpg, 48%-FG, 69%-FT, 6.6-ppg, 5.7-rpg, 1.1-apg, 0.9-bpg, 0.9-spg, 2.3-PF, 1.2-TO
Davis is not going to be traded. In my opinion he is the most valuable piece in re-building Toronto's team along with Demar Derozan. Players like Ed have no price tag, and if they did we would see Anthony playing alongside Rose in Chicago, and Noah playing in Denver. This team needs to be built from the ground up starting with defense, and Davis can be a Toronto leader for a long time, or until his contract is up...
Amir Johnson is quietly putting together another extremely efficient year and continues to perform as one of the most efficient frontcourt players in the league despite getting starter minutes for the majority of the season. Johnson's size as far as weight goes has him muscled out of position at times, and his basketball awareness remains average and nothing special. He makes up for those two with his amazing motor. The biggest misconception on Amir is placed upon him due to the large contract he inherited this offseason, that is the fact that he is not someone who will develop into a great player, so dont expect that. Amir is a role player, one who plays his role extremely well,even though he may have his offensive outbursts, and he may show signs of being a nice offensive player with his 12 games over 15 points this season. During the offseason and towards the end of the season people were raving on this young players Hollingers Player Efficiency Rating. His minutes have increased about 1/3rd, and his production has increased in a similar fashion, along with his Player Efficiency Rating increasing slightly.
I never believed Toronto should have re-signed him this offseason, as I thought the selection of Ed Davis would go well with Bargnani and I also believed Bargnani's defense and rebounding would get better upon Bosh's departure. Today I am glad Johnson was re-signed even if his contract is hefty.
With Ed Davis and Amir Johnson you have two similar players, the difference is Davis's ceiling is alot higher then Johnson's, Davis already defends players man to man alot better, and shows good post potential. This makes Johnson the more expendable of the two, not to mention Davis's inexperience, potential, age, ability to stay out of foul trouble etc. The problem with simply moving Johnson is his contract. If a team like Boston is only willing to offer Kendrick Perkins $22-mil over 4-years, who is going to want Johnson on there team for $25-mil over 4-years.
Reggie has been playing like a man possessed this year. He showed signs of being this guy last year, and I think he has found a very comfortable role as the teams undeniable leader, and fan favourite in Toronto. Evans is the most productive rebounder in the league this year, and despite not having outstanding shot blocking numbers he plays good defense on opposing PF's with a complete effort and hustle. You can count the guys in the league that give his effort on one hand. Evans has a horrible offensive skill set but he plays within himself, and on a Toronto team who has no issues scoring when healthy Evans is not needed to score any baskets at anytime during the game unless he is 5 feet from the basket he doesnt even shoot. The candyman has a great work ethic and is an outstanding leader for his teamates on a club that lacks leaders. The other leaders on the team are Jose Calderon, and Leandro Barbosa...not gonna cut it.I forget the exact stat, but I think in the game Reggie Evans returned the broadcasters stated with Evans in the lineup the Raptors outrebounded their opponents in 60% of the qaurters.
Losing Reggie Evans means Toronto's other two PF's who currently play the position will gain one of his very large shoes to fill each. Their will be a tremendous void to be filled in the leadership department and the fans will lose their most admired player. Even if Toronto feels Davis and Johnson can truely make that next step allowing Evans contract to run up would still lose so much in the leadership department. Plain and simple if Toronto wants to win next year they shouldnt let this guy go, he is a difference maker on this team, and willing to play less then 20-mpg while still being the teams undeniable leader.
Im gonna tell the truth, I was looking to post a whole bunch of positives about Bargnani as not to be biast, but everywhere I turn I see negatives. This year In Toronto's 17 games Bargnani has 3 blocks. He has recorded 10 rebounds or more twice this season. This is the price you pay when you put a finesse big man in as the anchor of your teams defense. Bargnani is a potent scorer thou, and is one of the best scoring frontcourt players in the league. It has been said that he needs to have a team built around him to hide his weakness's, which to me is complete garbage. Your best player in supposed to make the players around you better not the other way around.
With all that said this is not Andrea's fault, he is still a very usefulln player in the right system. There is not supposed to be a system built around Andrea, this is the main problem. Bargnani is a true mismatch problem for any frontcourt player, to the point where teams put SF's on him and double team. Even if he is used as a starter the team using him that way should put him at the four position, and get a very active, strong, true C to rebound, block shots, and compensate for Andrea's weaknesses. I would love to see Andrea be used as a 28-mpg guy I just dont see that happening. The role he was given in his breakout year backing up Jermaine Oneal and Chris Bosh is how he is supposed to be utilized.
After giving Bargnani the role as a primary scorer on his team I do not see him losing that role in Toronto, the only way to fix the mistake of putting him at C is to trade him. The team will lose a bit of scoring but has alot of players who can fill that void. Derozan is a scorer, Davis and Johnson need to develop there offense sooner or later, and if Toronto gets a real SF anytime soon he could provide some scoring for the team. Also Bargnani trarely passes when he gets the ball, with him leaving the team it will give derozan and calderon more opurtunites to run the offense a bit better. Trading Bargnani wont get you fair value in return, but if he isnt getting you wins why does that matter. This will create alot of holes, and Toronto will lose more games, but their identity would change. Instead of trying to outscore opponents everynight with the Bargnani approach, I would like to see them "have to" learn how to shut down teams and not rely on their big time scoring.
What would you like to see the Raptors do with this frontcourt? Keep all 4? Move Johnson? Move Bargnani? Release or resign Evans?
How bout Barg/Calderon/Barbosa for RLopez/ABrooks/CFyre or HWarrick or whichever contract is worst. If brooks does'nt want to resign with Suns
Give AJohnson his minutes
REvans will be better for a fringe playoff team
ABrooks/DeRozan/JJohnson or HBarnes/TJones/EDavis/RLopez or Draft Kantner
Can we morph all of these 4 guys together to make a comlete low post player? I want Davis' shot blocking, Amir's hustle and motor, Reggie's rebounding and toughness, and Bargnani's offensive repetoire. Intense big man!
I would definitely keep Davis and Bargnani. Yes Bargs is horrible on defense but nobody can do what he can on offense. If Davis bulks up he will be a great compliment to Bargnani as he excels on defensive and will be a shot blocking presence. Also, Davis can post up on the low block and he has some nice moves in there. So Bargnani can work the high post while Davis can work the low post, that is why Bargnani and Bosh did not work because they both wanted to work the high post and not play defense. I'd like to keep Amir too as the big man off the bench that gives all the hustle and hear, but if the right offer came up, I would trade him. I love Reggie, but he is kind of old, so if some team wants to sign him for a big contract they can have him, but if he will take a cheap contract I'd love to keep him because I think he sets a good example for Davis and Amir. A true center would be nice to get and I think Ajinca may be able to do that as he is very tall and very long and can swat anything away, so hopefully he gets better.. I don't have much hope for Alabi...
Also, I dislike that comparison of Ed Davis to Joakim Noah.. Davis is a pf while noah is a center. Davis is more athletic and can guard the perimeter better while Noah defends the low post better as he is much bulkier and stronger to do so. Davis already has wayyy better offensive moves than Noah and they will definitely get better. I don't know who to compare him to but Noah just sounds bad..
I Amir Johnson to be frustrating, he seems to have an up and down weekly. There's a week where he would be hot and put up 18-10, then follow it up with a 10-6 type week. He really lacks consistency. Ed Davis is one of their steadiest player, you pretty much know what you will be getting from him (10pts-8rb) and seems to be getting better as te season has gone along.
Bargani is a 7 footer that wants and plays like a SF, he would be a good trading chip to bring in a starting/decent Center.
This is not a Front court issue, but I would like to see Bayless get some starts at SG. Just to see what he has and if they want to extend his contract.
Amir actaully only averages 10 and 6 but i see what your saying. That is why he should not be trying to get those points and just rely on getting rebounds, blocks, steals, loose balls, and hustle plays. hes a role player and should play within that. Ed Davis cant be compared to any player in the league to be honest, the closest thing I could think of was a Noah type player even know he is a good inch smaller. Noah is a PF playing C in a league, and an age where there are not really many true C's left.
There is no frontcourt issue. The whole team is an issue and should clearly be in rebuilidng mode.
Bargnani should be traded... I can't see him ever developing the defense/rebounding which would make him a star. He simply doesn't understand the game.
Amir Johnson is excellent. His SCORING is inconsistent... because he's a low usage player who gets a lot of his scoring off passes and garbage buckets. But he's an excellent rebounder/defender. Boston was concerned about giving Perkins an extension because of A) Age: 26, vs. Amir who is 23 B) Injury risk
Amir is currently the Raptors best player. Though I wish the raptors got a better deal, I don't think he's overpaid in any way.
The raptors should build around whoever they draft as a franchise player in the next couple years, plus hang on to the following players and see what happens:
Amir, Ed Davis, DeRozan, Bayless
I think all other assets should be liquidated for cap room / picks
There is a frontcourt issue, Toronto has 4 PF's, Evans deserves an extension because he is an amazing leader and everyone from Bayless to triano wants him extended, adn Bargnani cant play C but they wont trade him. Thats big time decision making for a GM who is likely going to start the first year of his extended contract in a time of critisism.
I agree with you entirely thou. Having Johnson and Davis fill 48 minutes per game at the PF position is an extremely nice positive and gives you a full game of consistint defensive effort, lane intmidation, and toughness down low. Thats why I believe getting a guy that is big, strong, and a solid defender would be so nice to team up with those 2. Maybe when Randolph leaves Memphis could work a sign and trade for Gasol or something. Even jordan would be nice to see in a Raps uniform, or they can draft Kanter and move Bargnani for a suitable SF. Greg Oden anybody? Hes worth a shot in my books.
They have Bargnani playing the centre position when he should be playing the PF spot which his defensive difficiences won't be as exposed.
There is really no point in giving minutes to Evans when it should be going to young players like Amir and Ed Davis. So the solution is simple... trade Reggie Evans / let him walk. I like Reggie, he's a great rebounder, but he should be playing as a role/bench player on a contender.
I'm not seeing the big dilemma. The franchise has to be in rebuilding mode. The question is... will Andrea turn into a superstar? I think the answer is clearly no, so let's convert him into draft picks already.
If the Raptors are smart, they'll emulate what the Blazers, Thunder and almost all good teams do: rebuild through the draft. I don't necessarily trust colangelo to do it, but I think the solution is obvious
The fans need to boo Bargnani for not getting boards, or not blocking shots, or not playing d, or not hitting big shots in crunch time, or not passing the ball enough or etc. Thats the only time BCs Raps trade a player who is good, either the guy was injury prone, he didnt like Toronto, or Toronto didnt like him.
Its kinda surprising our guys never booed him.
in my opinion its a no brainer that reggie has to go. Why would you bring him back to take minutes away from ed and amir? I enjoy reggies hustle and rebounding, but realistically he should not be resigned and I will not be happy if he's back taking mins away from the young guys..
Everyone says that bargs needs to be traded but realistically who is going to take this guy? I know he's 25 (i think) with supposed upside, but he has 4 or 5 more years left on his deal for about 10 a year. Especially with the new agreement, that could be superstar money. That was a bad and unneccessary extension Colangelo gave out.. there was no way teams were going to give him that if he became a R FA..
Unfortunately it appears as if they're stuck with bargs but i still have a little faith he can become a decent player (although thats diminishing by the game haha) who isnt a total liability on the defensive end and only takes long twos and threes. Get him the ball in the post!!!
Ideally building around demar and ed should be the plan right now, but it looks as if bargs is there for the long haul haha.. comon kyrie!
I agree with every point you've made except for keeping bayless around.. do you really think he is one of the 4 core players to build around? i'm not a huge fan personally, he has his games but overall he reminds me of a poor mans jarrett jack
Trade Bargnani for a small forward (Danny Granger) or Point guard (Raymond Felton). Draft a Center (Enes Kanter or Jonas Valanciunas.) Start Ed Davis and have Amir come off the bench as a sixth man.
Kanter or Jonas/Evans
This lineup might get the Raptors to the playoffs in 2012. Granger and Derozan would be a nice 1-2 punch, Davis is starting to come on and could be a real nice 4 man for the Raptors. Calderon does need to leave but lets face it, its pretty hard to trade him for two reasons (oversized contract, few teams want him) so I think the Raptors are stuck with him. Fortunately they do have Bayless who could come on soon and might start over Calderon in a year or two. Trading Bargnani is the key for this team to do well. If they don't do it prepare to suffer, if he is traded then they have a better chance of succeeding and possibly making the playoffs.
Granger is not coming to Toronto especially with the small beef coking up between Indiana players and Toronto players. I like the Raymond Felton thouht, Bargnani for Felton would work in my books, and dont forget Nuggets GM is Toronto's former assistant GM...Time to pay homage. We will also have plenty of money to attempt a signing of Wilson Chandler, Jeff Green, or another talented wng player who will only get the Raps suckered into dishing out that much cash for a role player. The move that would create perfection in the offseason on top of all this would be to sgn Dalembert and draft Kanter giving us a real presence in the paint.
I wouldn't mind Ray Felton he's a solid starter but drafting a big would only work if we trade Bargnani. I love Kanter and wouldn't mind him in a Raps uniform. Danny Granger, NEVER, i don't like his 1 dimensional game and he doesn't make teammates better
It was a great pity that the Tyson Chandler trade fell through as him alongside Bargnani would have worked perfectly. Looking at where they could move Bargs to, I would consider teams that have a defensive anchor at C but need a scoring PF. The Bucks cropped up but to work a trade would be hard, the Kings might be an option as they have DMC who can rebound for fun and pairing him with Bargs gives them a nice contrasting front court. The Kings have picks they could send as soon as this year and are well under cap so could possibly do a deal.
I get sad every time I think about that Tyson Chandler trade.
@fgrrghg Yes, I think Bayless is worth keeping around. He might just need the right situation and minutes to be a star (or at least a decent player). Did you hear the Simmons podcast where Kevin Love said that he's shocked that Bayless hasn't been better, and thinks it's only a matter of time before he turns into a star? Also, don't forget that he absolutely lit up the summer league... I know it's the summer league, but at least it shows he has talent. (don't forget, he's still just 22). He seems to be the kind of guy who will work his butt off until he's a star.
Anyway, Bayless is a low risk - high reward. (Similar to Beasley and Anthony Randolph, who should both be in Raptors jerseys right now).
Chandler has been shockingly great this year. Nobody could have seen this resurgence coming.. the mavs got lucky.
What makes me sad is the TJ Ford for Gerald Wallace trade that we turned down a few years ago. I was outraged when I heard about it.
I get sad every time I think about that Tyson Chandler trade
Im watching the Dallas Portland game and they were talking about how well Chandler helps Nowitzki with his weaknesses shot blocking, defense and rebounding. I was thinking about how the closest player in comparison to Nowitzki in the world in terms of skillset and versatility is Andrea Bargnani (Bargnani usually operates from a step or two inside or outside the perimeter, Nowitzki usually a couple steps inside the perimeter). Maybe we are all getting on Bargnani a little too soon here (mainly me). Does anybody believe a guy like Dalembert who is somewhat similar too Chandler minus the athletisism could give the same effect for Toronto and Bargnani as Chandler did for Dallas and Nowitzki?
Id really like to hear opinions on this, I was going to make a new thread for this topic but thought it maybe overkill...
On paper when you look at Career stats the are the exact same player.
Chandler has 8-ppg, 9-rpg, 1.5-bpg, 56%fg, and 63% ft in 27-mpg.
Dalembert has 8-ppg, 8-rpg, 2-bpg, 52%fg, and 66%ft in 26-mp.
Dalembert also has never played with a great passing PG, and Chandler has played with Paul for 3 years, and now Kidd. I wonder how Dalembert would do in Toronto.
Well yes, even Reggie Evans was having a postive effect on Bargnani before he went down. Bargnani needs a presence defensively next to him to be effective.
Sorry it tooke me awhile to respond but I had to have to time to rethink my original plan and revise it. But I have done so now and here it is. Trade Bargnani to the Nuggets for Raymond Felton. The Nuggets want to rebuild but first inorder to do so they need young nucleus. They've started to do this with Gallo, Lawson, and Afflalo, but they need to continue doing it. Bargnani will give this team some nice scoring and maybe George Karl can teach him how to play defense and begin to live up to the Dirk Nowitski potential that some people have given him. (I haven't... yet, but I do think that if he the plays the 4, his original position and if he plays for a defensive demanding coach like George Karl then this will finally result) Him and Gallo would be a nice combo, the only think I worry about is defense but as I mentioned that should be solved because Bargs would play the 4, his original position and he would be playing for defensive demanding coach like George Karl. The Nuggets then need to draft Keith Benson to replace Nene in the starting lineup because I expect him to leave in the offseason, because the Nuggets can't afford to keep him with the expected lowered salary cap. The Raptors can sign Nene to fill there hole at Center. (The Raptors should have plenty of money, and if they still have the trade exception they acquired from the Heat via the Bosh departure then they should have plenty of money), thus leaving only the SF to fill. This position can be filled through the draft. Luckily this is the position that this draft class is filled with so the Raptors will have a wide variety to choose from. Terrance Jones or Perry Jones or Derrick Williams or Harrison Barnes could be the Raptors possible pick. Or if they end up playing well as of late and get a 7-10 pick, which I highly doubt but anything is possible, they could go for Jan Vesely, or Kawhi Leonard. Any one of those players would be great picks for the Raptors the only questionable pick would be Perry Jones whom I think because of his very raw talent, will probably be a bust. (I really just think that the comparisons to Tmac are just too much and too high. Thus causing him to be a bust or at least much less the player that scouts expect.) I believe by this time the Raptors will have too much payroll, especially with the expected lower salary cap come next year, they can just release Evans and thus lower their payroll by 5 mil.
T. Jones or Derrick Williams/James Johnson/Kleiza
Ed Davis/Amir Johnson/Dorsey
That should be a pretty good lineup that should get the Raptors to the playoffs, if Coach Jay Triano is let go.
Davis has been really solid for a rookie. Before we got big Al i thought we would take him 9th as we went into last years draft. He's the future for the Raptors at pf. Hopefully with his defence and Bargnani's offence they will be set for the future as far as bigs go.
First of all, some of these comparisons are bothering me.
I've loved Eddie Davis since his freshman year and he is a smart, active and tough defender. Still, he is just not as aggressive as Noah and it's highly unlikely he ever will be. I like Davis in a Taj Gibson role off the bench. He can come in, score around the hoop, not take shots away from his teammates and play great defense. I think on a championship-contending team, that's his role.
Samuel Dalembert is a poor defender, lackadaisical and as dumb as a rock. You do NOT want him on your team. Stat-wise, he may seem like Tyson Chandler, but that comparison is off-base. Chandler plays smart and he plays with passion.
Bargnani is not a first scoring option on a good team (I think he admitted that in the offseason), but he can score in a variety of ways. At the power forward position, he has the potential to be average on defense (whoo-hoo!), but a very quality second option who can space the floor, move the ball and feed off of his teammates. I like him as a starter for Toronto.
Amir Johnson isn't horrible, but I don't think he has a very positive impact on the game. He would be a nice backup, but as you mentioned, Eddie Davis has a lot more potential. They should move him if they can.
Reggie Evans should be kept, as he's the only meaty post player on the Raptors. He'll be a solid role-player and keep practices competitive.
Kyrie Irving is the clear pick for Toronto if they can get him. If not, Enes Kanter might work well with Bargnani down low. He's a true center who is aggressive and can score well. Jonas Valanciunas could fit in a similar way. I've heard some fans want Toronto to draft a wing player to play alongside DeRozen. What do you think?
Great points money, I actaully agree on everything except for Davis. Davis can be alot more then just Taj Gibson. Right now Triano is giving the Rookie a timeout so to speak, after the Detroit game where Davis lacked a real assertive effort and didnt seem to upset about it he hasnt played much. Triano is sitting him on the bench and basically making the "if you dont play hard, and play your role, your sitting!".Thats just as good for this rookie as a double double.
On another note I still think it would be very difficult to lose Evans. The team is 8-14 with him in the lineup, and 3-3 since he returned.
Great points money, I actaully agree on everything except for Davis. Davis can be alot more then just Taj Gibson. Right now Triano is giving the Rookie a timeout so to speak, after the Detrot]it blowout game where Davis lacked a real assertive effort and didnt seem to upset about it he hasnt played much. Triano is sitting him on the bench and basically making the "if you dont play hard, and play your role, your sitting!".Thats just as good for this rookie as a double double.
On another note I still think it would be very difficult to lose Evans. The team is 8-14 with him in the lineup, and 3-3 since he returned.
I also believe Davis can be better than Gibson. I just think that would be his role on a championship-caliber team. I don't -- nor have I ever -- thought of him as a top-3 offensive option on a great team. Davis is a defensive-minded role player who plays extremely unselfish and intelligent; players like that always find a way to help their team. Still, the best teams in the NBA have power forwards who can be high-impact scorers; think Kevin Garnett, Carlos Boozer, Chris Bosh, Tim Duncan, Pau Gasol and Dirk Nowitzki. I don't see that kind of scoring potential in Davis. Andrea Bargnani on the other hand...
A three-man rotation in the post of Bargnani starting in at the 4, [Kanter?] at the 5 and Davis playing starter minutes off the bench has a lot of potential defensively and offensively. Throw a few role-players in there (Evans for example) Covers all bases. Inside, outside, in-between.
Ed Davis has about the same scoring potential as Gibson, slight edge given to Gibson, but his defensive potential is head and shoulders above Gibsons. Davis will be a starter in this league whether that is on Toronto or not.
To awnser your questions on the mock draft this would be my Raptors Big Board. Just to note I am not sure if the Raptors really need anyone at the 3 position. James Johnson played some amazing minutes at the SF position last night against Durant, Klieza will be returning next year, and Weems is a solid 2/3 who should get an extension. Johnson has proved to be extremely beneficial in seeing what can help bargnani. he gives us a chance to always have a help defender on the floor and most of th time 2 help defenders on the floor. Also he acts like a point forward at times on offense, rebouds, gets assists, steals, and his offensive game looks like he maybe able to hit jumpers consistantly. Johnson has upside.
It seems as thou Sacramento and Cleveland have Irving and Barnes as their two favourites. and that Minnesota will be selecting Kanter so Toronto's 3 top options will likely come off the board unless the lottery helps us. This is the remaining players I want are..
Perry Jones-Jones never showcased his whole skillset in Baylor due to the offences flaws, and position he was put in. Dunnwa sa horrible PG for jones to play alongside. In Toronto Jones could serve a similar role as James Johnson, especally notable would be his length and hopefully abillity to help Andrea with his weakness's.
Jonas Valanciunas- Big V would be a longterm pick for Toronto. This selection would be based mostly on Potential, hopefully Valanciunas can be that menace frountcourt player as projected. A true C has evaded Toronto for a long time, and many may believe Jonas may be the next Aroujo...
Alec Burks. It is noted Calderon does try on defense at the PG position but he just is not athletic enough to get the job done defensively, and is often caugt flat footed and out of position. Burks is starting to remind me a bit of Roy position wise, and the Raptors passed up on this type of player before. Drafting Burks would move Derozan to SF or move Calderon to the bench after developing.