share

Topic From Yesturday That Aran or Any of the Mods Didn't Get To Answer

blackflash234
Registered User
Joined: 01/25/2009
Posts: 536
Points: 802
Offline
Topic From Yesturday That Aran or Any of the Mods Didn't Get To Answer

HomeForumsBasketballNBA Draft
Just a Question for Aran or Any of the Mods on This Website. How Do You Guys Determine a Player's Potential

Posted on: Yesterday at 10:37am

http://cdn04.duonox.com/sites/all/modules/_custom/advforum_nbadraft/nbad...); background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; height: 285px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: no-repeat repeat; ">

blackflash234

Registered User

Joined: 01/25/2009
Posts: 448
Points: 531

blackflash234's 2011 Mock Draft

User is online Online

Just a Question for Aran or Any of the Mods on This Website. How Do You Guys Determine a Player's Potential

Hey Aran and the mods on this website. I've been a fan for years when it comes to the work and time you guys put into these scouting reports and player ratings on players profiles. A question that I've always wondered is how do you guys determine a players potential out of 10? You guys usually always hit the bulls eye when it comes to determining that that what factors do you guys base on determining that. It really intrigues me.

7 points



Posted on: Tue, 02/01/2011 - 11:38am

http://cdn04.duonox.com/sites/all/modules/_custom/advforum_nbadraft/nbad...); background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; height: 333px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: no-repeat repeat; ">

thparadox

Registered User

Joined: 06/13/2008
Posts: 53
Points: 22

User offline. Last seen 17 hours 26 sec ago. Offline

My guess is that it's some

My guess is that it's some combination of:

- Age (obvious)

- Athleticism (vertical, quickness of vertical, foot speed, lateral quickness, etc)

- Co-ordination (does the player show flashes of being able to perform more fluid + advanced skills? or are they mechanical? do they have balance and body control?)

- Awareness (do they have a gut instinct for where the ball in going off rebounds?, do they intuitively know where their teammates are and where the defense is?, do they flash brilliant plays that only come from intuition?)

I love this site, and I'm looking forward to Aran and other scouts answers.

4 points

Posted on: Tue, 02/01/2011 - 3:09pm

http://cdn04.duonox.com/sites/all/modules/_custom/advforum_nbadraft/nbad...); background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; height: 257px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: no-repeat repeat; ">

shipargos

Registered User

Joined: 06/24/2008
Posts: 140
Points: 23

User offline. Last seen 49 min 16 sec ago. Offline

size too

For me, potential is related with the physical profile, age, size (height, frame size, space to put muscle) and more important, athleticism.

You can increase a person bkb skillset, since you are able to learn, but is difficult to increase your athleticism unless it is related to weight issues, and most guys are almost finished growing in the college level.

It can also be related to develop leadership and intangibles, from a psicological standpoint.

0 points

Posted on: Tue, 02/01/2011 - 3:12pm

http://cdn04.duonox.com/sites/all/modules/_custom/advforum_nbadraft/nbad...); background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; height: 364px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: no-repeat repeat; ">

mess.eee
mess.eee's picture
Registered User

Joined: 04/18/2010
Posts: 728
Points: 1281

User offline. Last seen 50 min 33 sec ago. Offline

Simple formula

Physical tools + Age + level of skill-set = player's potential

2 points

Posted on: Tue, 02/01/2011 - 3:16pm

http://cdn04.duonox.com/sites/all/modules/_custom/advforum_nbadraft/nbad...); background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; height: 364px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: no-repeat repeat; ">

Quincey Hodges
Quincey Hodges's picture
Registered User

Joined: 05/26/2009
Posts: 5240
Points: 852

User offline. Last seen 18 min 51 sec ago. Offline

Level of kill for me. Even if

Level of skill for me. Even if they aren't great physically.

-2 points

Posted on: Tue, 02/01/2011 - 3:43pm

http://cdn04.duonox.com/sites/all/modules/_custom/advforum_nbadraft/nbad...); background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; height: 285px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: no-repeat repeat; ">

blackflash234

Registered User

Joined: 01/25/2009
Posts: 448
Points: 531

blackflash234's 2011 Mock Draft

User is online Online

...

I know you guys mention size alot but sometimes, I think that it has nothing to do with basing a player on their potential. For example, guys like Michael Beasley who was a 6'8 power forward converted into a small forward had a 10 out of 10 when it came to potential and I bet you that most experts had him being a power forward full time. Another example would be Russell Westbrook who was a 6'3 shooting guard converted to point guard. Most experts probably had being a shooting guard long term too. My point is that a player's size doesn't neccesarily have anything to do with potential in my opinion.

2 points

Posted on: Tue, 02/01/2011 - 4:06pm

http://cdn04.duonox.com/sites/all/modules/_custom/advforum_nbadraft/nbad...); background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; height: 364px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: no-repeat repeat; ">

butidonthavemoney
butidonthavemoney's picture
Registered User

Joined: 02/26/2009
Posts: 4168
Points: 3509

User offline. Last seen 2 hours 26 min ago. Offline

True

But look at Anthony Randolph, Patrick OBryant, JaVale McGee and Perry Jones. Without their freakish size there is no way they would have had a 10/10 for potential. Kevin Durant's size gives him a big advantage over anybody guarding him on the wing.

Size + Athleticism + Fluidity = Potential in the eyes of a lot of scouts.

Potential is like intangibles. The ranking really depends on the scout who does the profiles.

1 point


blackflash234
Registered User
Joined: 01/25/2009
Posts: 536
Points: 802
Offline
...

The reason why I reposted this topi from yesturday was because Aran or any of the mods from this site didn't come around to answering my question.

wenich
Registered User
Joined: 01/20/2009
Posts: 146
Points: 140
Offline
because they don't have a

because they don't have a "real" answer. They just make the &$#%#&@! up!!!!....they just look at a player, look at his athleticism, his body and what they perceive of his game and what they think is his room for improvement and they assign a number. Without doing any research on this my guess would be that overall players with the higher athleticism numbers also tend to have higher numbers for potential assigned to them.

blackflash234
Registered User
Joined: 01/25/2009
Posts: 536
Points: 802
Offline
...

But most of the time, they hit the bulls when it comes to predicting a guys potential. There's been a few times where they made some questionable decisions but who doesn't? I'm just really surprised that they'll able to predict a guy's potential most of the time then not.

butidonthavemoney
butidonthavemoney's picture
Registered User
Joined: 02/26/2009
Posts: 6171
Points: 9825
Offline
Uh

I answered them (kind of).

And this is just irritating.

RSS: Syndicate content