Top Seeds of the East
My top 8 seeds in the East are: 1.Miami,2.Boston,3.Indiana,4.Philly,5.New York,6.Brooklyn,7.Atlanta,8.Chicago. I think seeds 4-8 are could go any way as all the teams have their own strengths and weaknesses. My darkhorse candidates are Washington and Milwaukee, as they both have a nice blend of young talent and veterans, if they can put it together they could sneak ahead of chicago as the 8th seed.( Chicago is really going to hurt with the loss of drose, brewer, and asik.)
I don't really have any problem with this group. My only comment would be concerning Atlanta. They should still be good enough to make the playoffs, but they do have some major roster decisions to considder this year so we'll see which direction they go there - Sounds like Smith is less likely to leave than he was before, but who knows.
I would tend to seed Toronto as the best choice to possibly knock one of the bottom teams out. But now that Phili got better, the Raptors may be the odd team out of the mix.
My favorite team is Toronto and I had us as a darkhorse for a while but I'm not sold and valincuinas coming in and having a huge impact right away. Atlanta is in a good position if you ask me as Josh Smith is likely to stay on his hometown team now that he will have a bigger role on offense, they also acquired some of his best friends hew grew up with Antony morrow and Lou Williams. I think if LA is unable to resign Dwight he will go back home to Atlanta and play with his best friends Josh Smith, Anthony morrow, and Lou Williams who have all played on the same AAU and high school team.
I think the wizards willl be better then hawks. Wall will get them to 8 seed
I wouldn't give the Wizards the 10 seed, let alone the 8 seed. With Smith and Horfard alone, the Hawks are better than Washington.
I think you will have to wait two or three years to see the Wiz compete for an 8 spot.
The biggest question mark to me of the East teams comes from Brooklyn and Chicago. Brooklyn obviously has had Deron Williams for a full season now and they were far from great. Granted there were a ton of injuries that caused a lot of these losses, but they still weren't that good. It will be interesting to see how good Brooklyn actually is together with everyone healthy and the new guys they've added. I tend to believe healthy they are right up there in the 3-6 range depending on how things go.
The Bulls on the other hand is hard to predict. They've added a ton of guys : Hinrich, Robinson, Belinelli, Mohammed, Radmonvic, and Teague and they've lost a bunch of their bench mob : Asik, CJ Watson, Ronnie Brewer, and Kyle Korver. Right there will be interesting to see how these guys perform, but the injury of Rose and the health status of Deng weigh in too. Recently I read an article saying Deng may not have surgery at all which would be outstanding for the Bulls. With Rose out he's arguably the Bulls best player and they'll need him to have any hope of winning. The big plus is Tom Thibodeau and he's likely the reason they still make they playoffs. He'll have them playing hard defense and that will give them an opportunity to win. The Bulls though will probably look much more like last years Sixers than last years Bulls so them pulling in at the eight seed makes sense.
If I had to predict the playoffs this year in the East I'd say:
1. Miami 2. Boston 3. Indiana 4. Philadelphia 5. Brooklyn 6. New York 7. Atlanta 8. Chicago
I also agree that Toronto, Milwaukee, and Washington could be this seasons dark horses assuming their personal come together and play well. I wouldn't be surprised looking at the Raptors roster if they pushed themselves in at 7 or 8 and knocked the Bulls from playoff contention. I hope the Bulls don't miss the playoffs though because for some reason I think if they do they'll end up getting the top pick next year.
Am I the only one skeptical on Brooklyn? Gerald Wallace hardly fills me with confidence. Joe Johnson and Deron Williams is good, but that front court apart from Humphries is soft.
While I would say we need to see them play together before making any real judgements, the fact is that Williams and Johnson can carry this team into the playoffs no problem. Besides that they have some solid role players, and we know they have a very aggressive and RICH owner who is still likely to make more waves.
As I've said before in earlier posts, this team is a Wild Card. They really could finish at almost any playoff seed other than 1st. But I do imagine it will be higher than 8th.
Soo you are saying Reggie Evans is soft?
All you guys seem to forget only 5 teams in the east got better while the other playoff teams didnt. 5 teams that got better are the heat who got aAllen and Lewis. Celtics who got Lee, Terry, re-signed Green and also got Sullinger and Fab Melo. Knicks added a whole lot of depth as shown from overall team PG-Felton/kidd,sg-shumpert/smith/ brewer sf-melo/novak pf-amare/thomas c-chandler/camby, nets got resigned deron, wallace, humphries, and lopez and also got johnson, watson, tetovic, and Philly just got Bynum, but they did lose a great perimeter defender, are weak at the pf position, and lack a true back up pg. Pacers lost collison, barbosa and payed way to much for hibbert and george hill, i think they took a step back. Magic are done. Hawks lost Joe, Williams so they might fight for the th seed. and the bulls regressed by replacing guys like brewer, korver, and asik with hinrich, no defense belinelli and mohammed.
IMO 1)Heat-chalmers/cole, wade/allen, battie/miller, lebron/lewis, bosh/haslem
2)Celtics-rondo/terry, avery/lee, pierce/green, bass/sullinger, kg,melo
3)Knicks-felton/kidd, brewer(until shumpert comes back)/smith, melo/novak, amare/thomas, chandler/camby
4)Nets-deron/watson, joe/brooks, wallace/thornton, humphries/tetovic, lopez/ evans
5)Phili-holiday/ivey, turner/ nick young, richardson/wright, kwame brown(doug said he will start at pf)/young, bynum/hawes
6)Pacers-hill/augustin, george/?, granger/green, west/hansborogh, hibbert/mahinmi
7)Bulls-rose/teague, hamilton/hinrich, deng/belinelli, boozer/gibson, noah/mohammed
8) It could be Wizards, Hawks but i am going with Raptors-lowry/lucas, ross/fields, derozan/kleiza, bargnani/acy, valanciunas/grey
NOTE: Though I have put them into 7th, the Raptors are not a lock in the playoffs as most of the other teams here. If they do end up being a strong enough team to make it in, then they will be stong enough to battle for 7th.
A huge amount will depend on what happens to Dwight Howard as if the consensus is he'll leave Orlando then this pushes them out of the play offs but it doesn't seem to have been factored in that he could end up on another Eastern team most likely Brooklyn. For Brooklyn to get Howard they would have to wait until January to move Lopez unless they could do some deal some way without him which is doubtful and with Howard on board then Lopez or Humphries would need to be traded unless they want the cap level to get stupid.
With the seedings are we talking about best regular season records or the actual seeding positions as divisional champions cannot be seeded below 4?
I'll base mine on regular season records:-
4. New York
I feel that the Pacers being 2nd is perhaps a stretch but with Chicago being minus D-Rose for a chunk of the season, they may have an easier divison than the loaded Atlantic Divison.
Philly has some question marks having changed their roster but Coach Collins runs a solid system and if Evan Turner continues to develop then they should be able to have a winning or near winning season.
Milwaukee always seem to punch above their weight talentwise and could maybe sneak near to .500 and 8th seeding.
Atlanta have lost Johnson but added a decent scorer in Lou Williams so again they should be in the mix or a play off birth ableit at a lower seeding.
I agree that Washington could be dark horses with some very nice talent and 3 experienced starters added this year. Also they finished last season 6-0 so were maybe clicking as a team.
Howard is already traded. Philly now has Bynum. I'm not sure I follow you.
Lakers got Dwight Howard..
I don't understand why some people think the Hawks wont make the playoffs.
Al Horford and Josh Smith alone gets them some ink, throw in a top notch scorer Lou Williams, a seasoned vet PG Devin Harris, and an improving Jeff Teague, along with some shooters(Morrow,Jenkins,Korver) Toughness on the wings(McGrady,Deshawn Stevenson) and some inside toughness as well(Ivan Johnson,Zaza) I think they make the playoffs.
I don't think they will make a deep run or anything like that, but they will make they playoffs.
Some people on this site are severely under rating the Nets. I know they were just assembled (So where the 04 Pistons, 07 Celtics, and 11 Heat), but they are going to a new home and you know they are going to play hard to get that fan base in place. They have a great starting five and a decent bench, there is no way they are worse then the Knicks, Sixers, or Pacers.
Pg. Williams- Watson
Sg. Johnson- Brooks
Pf. Humphries- Evans
That is a good, well balance basketball team with the three main guys (Williams, Wallace, and Johnson) all being team players. Lopez provides them with inside scoring, and Humphries and Evans do all the dirty work. This team could beat anyone in a seven game series. Keep in mind this isn't a shortened season like last year, so teams like the Pacers and Sixers aren't going to surprise anyone again
In the long run this is going to be a very strong team. But this coming season they will need some time to figure it out.
Pacers : Should have a better record because of their consistency and tough defence. In a playoff series I would probably pick the Nets.
Philly: Doug Collins seems to be able to get more out of his team than most coaches, and now he has an all star centre. I do think the Nets could finish higher in the standings if they get it together early.
New York: This team has tons of talent, but so far has not been capable of putting it all to use at the same time. I definately see the Nets seeding higher than the Knicks.
I think a lot of people are just being cautious with the Nets, knowing now that even the Heat had to sort through some issues before getting to the top of the ladder.
I think the Bucks will make the playoffs over the Hawks, they will get the 8th seed.. The NBA should move the timberwolves to the Eastern confrence....
Will be an outstanding opening round match up. Hopefully Chicago has a healthy Rose by then. If I am a Heat fan, I would rather face anyone other than the Bulls.
I think Memphis deserves to be in the eastern conference over the timberwolves. I mean location wise memphis is close to Charlotte, Atlanta, and Philly so I don't understand why they are in the western conference when clearly they are closer to the east
Since they started in Vancouver it was probably just easier to keep them in the West rather than rearanging things too much.
but the magic are a LOCK for the 8th seed. after all they just got the mighty aaron afflalo, what else could they need? LMAO. what did denver accomplish in this trade?
Please, stop it with Atlanta. There is a better chance of Josh Smith getting dealt to San Antonio (Ferry came from there, the Spurs who have a ton of long-term assets, and they now need one more good frontcourt piece to compete with the Lakers) in February than them being in contention for a playoff spot at that point. Joe Johnson was their best player, and they sold him off for scraps. If you want to believe he was overpaid, I won't argue, but Lou Williams doesn't replace him. Marvin Williams never lived up to his draft position, but he is better than Kyle Korver.
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1) The defending champs Miami Heat- they will be motivated because of what LA did, and i feel like the last monkey lebron needs to get off his back is kobe. if he beats kobe in a series, lebron shuts ALL the haters up. and miami just got deadlier with the additions of three point specialists rayray and lewis.
2)Boston Celtics- with the new additions and the resigning of key players i think the celtics have a great regualar season. rondo avary pierce bass and kg not to mention jet green and sully of the bench is ganna be real good.
3)BK Nets- i am not a fan of the nets in any way. but with the best back court in the east, a bigman who can score down low wallace whos a good all around player and a 4 man to do the dirty work gives them the 3 seed.
4)NYK-i think the knicks are going to have a really good year. with kidd and felton bringing stability to the 1, and when a healthy shump comes back he and brewer alongside tyson would bring a great defensive lineup. carmelo is lookin real good in the olympics and i think is in store for a monster year. amare is the key. with a great bench of kidd jr novak and camby i think we can make some noise this year come playoff time
5)Philly- love the acquisition of big man bynum. hes going to play like a allstar this year and along with turner and jrue and the other fellas on this squad there going to play some D.
6) Indie- i have a feeling the will drop down this year.there not going to catch anyone by suprise this year. we know they will rebound and play good defense. but i think are only good enough for the 6 seed.
7)Wizard- i think the wizards sneak in the playoffs. it will be close with raptors, atl, and chitown fighting for last 2 spots.
8) chicago- they get in because of the rebounding and defense this team has. hopefully rose comes back healthy.
the east is looking really strong this year.
That Atlantic Division is so loaded now with Philly now having got Byum and Brooklyn having upgraded plus the Knicks have added a few nice veterans to go aalongside the big 3 and Boston will still have that very solid core with Terry replacing Ray Allen.
Miami will dominate their division we assume and with D-Rose being out then the Pacers could well be the team to win Central division and quietly get a very high seeding.