As I look at and analyze the draft order/boards, along with reading and listening to buzz on players, some interesting things are coming to light and a few potential surprises are shaping up. I don't know why, but at this point, Hassan Whiteside's and Donatas Motiejunas's draft status doesn't look good right now, even though their stock has stayed the same. There is NOTHING being said about these two positive or negative This is pretty weird to me because talent wise they are top 15 in this draft. There are a number of factors for this: Prospects such as Paul George and Luke Babbitt are getting serious lottery level buzz right now, along with Patrick Patterson and to a lesser extent Gordon Hayward and inexplicably Dainel Orton. Second, Whiteside and Motiejunas are still largely unknown and unproven enigmas right now. Another reason? Fit/style of play. There is no chance Whiteside or Motiejunas goes to these teams in the top 20: Boston, San Antonio, Milwaukee, Miami, Utah or Indiana. Why? These teams draft tough, mature, proven commodities which reportedly these two (especially Whiteside) are not. And since neither have no chance of going top 10 anyway, that leaves only Toronto at 11, Minny (if they keep the pick instead of #23) at 16 and to a lesser extent Chicago at 17 with an immediate need in the frontcourt. And btw, Chicago is said to be targeting wing players that can shoot the three (word is they have fallen for George). That doesn't look too good if I'm Hassan's or Donatas's agent. I even heard Whiteside showed up for the combine in flip-flops ala DeAndre Jordan. Yes the DeAndre Jordan that fell to the second round due to questions about lack of maturity and professionalism. I still like Whiteside as an impact bigman, but he needs to get it together for his workouts or he is going to cost himself millions even though he is better than half the players that will get drafted in the 1st round. As for Motiejunas, if he can prove he can shoot the lights out and display a go-to post move, most teams will forgive his shortcomings for the moment.
Whiteside will not fall low because of DeAndre Jordan.
Jordan is someone who, if the draft was redone- Jordan would go about 10 picks higher then he did. Whiteside is raw but I believe he will be playing 82 games next season and will just have to play despite struggles.
If you want a player to get better, you have to play him. Whiteside will only get better with playing time.
As much as I don't care for Whiteside, he's not dropping like Jordan did. The way he tested at the combine can vouche for that.
Oh I agree Whiteside isn't falling to the second round. I was just saying he will fall below where he should because of the exact same concerns people had about Jordan.
There have been reports about Whiteside not doing very well in interviews in regards to his arrogance, naivity, complaining about his current draft status and plugging his mid-range and 3 point game. His length is great, but he's still skinny, unpolished, and apparently immature. The upside is there, so I don't see him falling past 25, but unless he tests amazingly high in vertical and plays well in scrimmages I don't see him rising higher than 10.
Yea from the looks of things right now, I think Donatas could end up falling a substantial amount in this draft, possibly out of the top 15. With guys like Paul George, Ekpe Udoh, Lance Stephenson, and Luke Babbitt rising, I think need is going to play a role as well. There are a lot of PFs in the mix in the early going and not all teams are going to be looking for PFs. With guys like Patrick Patterson, Derrick Favors, Demarcus Cousins, Greg Monroe, Ed Davis, someone is going to fall back a bit. I think the fact that Donatas is a Euro player is intriguing with the success of Dirk and somewhat of Andreas Barngani. But still, the fact that he is a Euro player means the transition may take longer than it even takes USA big men. He's not a shutdown D type of player, he doesn't rebound particularly well for a guy his size, and he certainly isn't the strongest player at PF. He's more of a hybrid shooter/PF. Some teams will really value that, but not every team is coveting that type of player with their 1st round pick.
I don't think Jordan and Whiteside are comparable. Jordan measured smaller than expected at the combine (6-11) and his vertical was significantly, surprisingly lower than the likes of Trent Plaisted, Sasha Kaun, while Whiteside literally measured up to expectations, and with a ridiculous 7-7 wingspan. What will ultimately prevent Whiteside from plummeting is the fact that he has niche. At Texas A&M, Jordan was a scorer who didn't score much and was still considered raw despite a high FG%. Whiteside, you know he's gonna come in an swat shots like an animal, which is 5.4 bpg in college attests to.
WhiteSide will not fall past the raptors
BasketballGuru, that pick does make a lot of sense. They have a good offensive center in Bargs, but could certainly use some shot blocking and rebounding right away and he wouldn't be forced to play big minutes right away, plus with a high risk pick like that #13 isn't too bad of a stretch. I also initially thought New Orleans, but I think their needs at SF and SG are too great I wouldn't think they'd pass on a Paul George, Xavier Henry, or maybe even Luke Babbit if his stock continues to rise to pick a long shot like Whiteside.
Motiejunas 10pts 5rbds in the Italian League, unproven??
I think Patrick Patterson might fall, for a lot of the same reasons Boozer fell in the 02 draft.... but like Booz, I think a number of teams will be dissapointed they didn't take him. I strongly believe Patterson will be a better pro than-