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  • #31628
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    larbear260
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    Who will have the better year out of the top prospects at each position, and who will emerge as the higher pick come draft time

     

    Point Guard: Marquis Teague/Austin Rivers/Myck Kabongo/Tony Wroten

    Wroten-he will be used as a 2 at UW with Gaddy at point, hes going to show explosivness and scoring ability, he should shine and put up the best numbers out of this group

     

    Shooting Guard: Jeremy Lamb/Khris Middleton/Brad Beal

    Lamb will be good, hes an excellent athlete and a great scorer, but Middleton is the unquestioned man at A&M, i think he could have an even bigger year than last and sky rocket up draft boards, playing in a down-sized Big 12 won’t hurt too much either…so ill take Middleton to have the best year and possibly go ahead of Lamb in the dradt

     

    Small Foward: James McAdoo/Harrison Barnes/Quincy Miller/Mike Gilchrist/LeBryan Nash/Terrence Jones

     

    Quincy Miller is the best of this group in my opinion but playing along side Perry Jones and Duece Bello he wont be able to take all the shots that the other guys will, so for this argument i’d say Barnes will have the best year, hes a complete player, however i think Nash will put up huge numbers in Ok St., i dont see it helping his draft stock amongst this loaded group.

     

    Power Foward: Anthony Davis/Jared Sullinger/Perry Jones

     

    Anthony Davis playing along side Jones, Gilchrist, Teague, and Doron Lamb wont help his case for a ton of shots but hes the best looking prospect of this group right now, however i think Perry Jones will have the best year, and possibly could end up going #1 in the draft, hes been saying that he wants to be that #1 pick, and i think he will put in the work to prove that he didnt play his best ball last season, i expect huge things from Jones and from Baylor this year

     

    Center: Andre Drummond (If elegiable theres no question hes the best)

    Center w/o Drummond: Tyler Zeller/Festus Ezili/Joshua Smith

     

    This center class without Drummond is weak, really weak, it comes down to this, do you want Michael Doleac (Tyler Zeller), an athletic Jamal Magliore (Festus Ezili) or Oliver Miller minus 50 pounds (Joshua Smith)….ill take Ezili but i wouldnt rely to heavily on him

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    PG: I’d go Kabongo. I love his potential as an uptempo floor general. Wroten is the wild-card, and is the biggest risk/reward player of the group – though its debatable which guard spot he’s better suited for. I feel Marshall is destined to be a quality NBA PG due to his IQ, vision, and overall maturity. I’m split on Teague right now.

    SG: Very tough decision, but I’d say Rivers, simply because he already has an NBA level scoring repetoire. Beal has more potential as a complete player, but Rivers seems to already have a niche. They’re neck and neck…I feel J.Lamb is a bit overrated right now, but he has lots of length and defensive potential. I’d like to see how he expands his off-the-dribble game without Kemba this year.

    SF: What a loaded position. Barnes is the safest bet, but the freshmen are looking very promising. Miller has excellent upside, but I’m skeptical about how smoothly his year will go on Baylor. Gilchrist will be solid, but is playing on a stacked UK perimeter – so I doubt he shines. T.Jones is more likely to, but his stock won’t rise unless we see improved efficiency and team play from him. Nash is my wild-card here, and due to his immaturity, he’s being underrated. He’s as physically gifted as anyone here.

    PF: Give me Jones III. I liked what I saw near the end of the year from him, and I hope he’ll continue to grow this year. Sullinger should be solid as a rock again, but in a year with more "high upside" prospects, he may drop a tad. Davis will likely have his ups and downs, being forced to play inside at UK this year. McAdoo will likely come off the bench and contribute at UNC, but it could be like the Marvin Williams situation.

    C: I don’t know where to begin. Such a thin crop – though if Drummond enters, it will lighten it up.

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  • #567031
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    PG: I’d go Kabongo. I love his potential as an uptempo floor general. Wroten is the wild-card, and is the biggest risk/reward player of the group – though its debatable which guard spot he’s better suited for. I feel Marshall is destined to be a quality NBA PG due to his IQ, vision, and overall maturity. I’m split on Teague right now.

    SG: Very tough decision, but I’d say Rivers, simply because he already has an NBA level scoring repetoire. Beal has more potential as a complete player, but Rivers seems to already have a niche. They’re neck and neck…I feel J.Lamb is a bit overrated right now, but he has lots of length and defensive potential. I’d like to see how he expands his off-the-dribble game without Kemba this year.

    SF: What a loaded position. Barnes is the safest bet, but the freshmen are looking very promising. Miller has excellent upside, but I’m skeptical about how smoothly his year will go on Baylor. Gilchrist will be solid, but is playing on a stacked UK perimeter – so I doubt he shines. T.Jones is more likely to, but his stock won’t rise unless we see improved efficiency and team play from him. Nash is my wild-card here, and due to his immaturity, he’s being underrated. He’s as physically gifted as anyone here.

    PF: Give me Jones III. I liked what I saw near the end of the year from him, and I hope he’ll continue to grow this year. Sullinger should be solid as a rock again, but in a year with more "high upside" prospects, he may drop a tad. Davis will likely have his ups and downs, being forced to play inside at UK this year. McAdoo will likely come off the bench and contribute at UNC, but it could be like the Marvin Williams situation.

    C: I don’t know where to begin. Such a thin crop – though if Drummond enters, it will lighten it up.

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  • #567058
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    PG – Teague (I automatically like any point guard Calipari recruits. Reading his scouting report has to have NBA GMs salivating. Crisp passer, good shooter, nice size, and good athleticism. I think his game will translate into the NBA right away)

    SG – Jeremy Lamb (I wish I could put Harrison Barnes here because i think he will be a SG in the NBA…but i like what Lamb did last year and i think he has the NBA body and polish already…hes a proven winner and good athlete)

    SF – Harrison Barnes (Im also a huge fan of Terrence Jones who i think will have a great year this year. Im not completely sold on McAdoo and really dont understand why he is so high on most boards…Harrison Barnes proved last year that besides Drummond, he is the best NBA prospect in the country)

    PF – Perry Jones (I think he’ll end up playing SF in the NBA…i dont like how most people say he had a bad freshman year. he is not a BIG. even tho he is 6’11, he is more finesse. he didnt get the chance to display his smooth jump shot and handle. i really think this kid will be a STAR. and could end up being the best player in this draft)

    C – Drummond/Jared Sulinger (SORRY but those other guys on your list dont deserve to be mentioned. i think Sullinger is a BIG. whether thats a C or PF it doesnt matter. dude is a BEAST down low. Drummond…well….that goes without saying)

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  • #566955
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    PG – Teague (I automatically like any point guard Calipari recruits. Reading his scouting report has to have NBA GMs salivating. Crisp passer, good shooter, nice size, and good athleticism. I think his game will translate into the NBA right away)

    SG – Jeremy Lamb (I wish I could put Harrison Barnes here because i think he will be a SG in the NBA…but i like what Lamb did last year and i think he has the NBA body and polish already…hes a proven winner and good athlete)

    SF – Harrison Barnes (Im also a huge fan of Terrence Jones who i think will have a great year this year. Im not completely sold on McAdoo and really dont understand why he is so high on most boards…Harrison Barnes proved last year that besides Drummond, he is the best NBA prospect in the country)

    PF – Perry Jones (I think he’ll end up playing SF in the NBA…i dont like how most people say he had a bad freshman year. he is not a BIG. even tho he is 6’11, he is more finesse. he didnt get the chance to display his smooth jump shot and handle. i really think this kid will be a STAR. and could end up being the best player in this draft)

    C – Drummond/Jared Sulinger (SORRY but those other guys on your list dont deserve to be mentioned. i think Sullinger is a BIG. whether thats a C or PF it doesnt matter. dude is a BEAST down low. Drummond…well….that goes without saying)

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  • #567093
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    If Wroten is at the 2 i dont see him putting up the best numbers since he’s not shooter. He will actually have to fight for that starting 2 spot with either Ross or Wilcox(both of them will start)

    I’ll say Barnes at SG

    Sullinger easily at PF

    Not sure about center. Drummond has the most potential but a high bust factor because of his lazy play MOST of the time

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  • #566991
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    If Wroten is at the 2 i dont see him putting up the best numbers since he’s not shooter. He will actually have to fight for that starting 2 spot with either Ross or Wilcox(both of them will start)

    I’ll say Barnes at SG

    Sullinger easily at PF

    Not sure about center. Drummond has the most potential but a high bust factor because of his lazy play MOST of the time

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  • #567107
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    rileymcshea3
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    Austin Rivers is not a pg! 

     

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  • #567005
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    rileymcshea3
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    Austin Rivers is not a pg! 

     

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  • #567122
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    paradigmn
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     While I respect people’s skepticisim about him, I have to disagree.  I am not saying LAMB will be a star, but I am saying I think he will have a nice NBA career and what he has shown so far has waranted his draft position in the 2012 mock…IMO of course.  

    We all know how he finished his freshman year at Uconn, so I won’t go into detail about how outstanding he was there.  I have watched every game USA has played in the FIBA under 19 championship being held right now in Latvia.  Jeremy Lamb has looked FANTASTIC.  He is 4th in scoring in the tournament and really has been the leader of that team.  His stroke has looked pretty good and when the US needs buckets, he delivers.  He has displayed the "ice water" in his viens that he showed during the NCAA tournament.  It’s not just his offense. On the defensive end he has been extremely disruptful because of his tremendous length, averaging more than 2 steals a game.  The competition has been pretty decent so his stats shouldn’t be taken lightly, as well as the other things he’s been doing that don’t show up in the box score….http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/11/fu19m/statistics/p/top-players.html

    By no means is he a complete player.  He obviously needs to add a little more weight to his frame and his ball handling needs to tighten up a little bit.  While Brad Beal and Austin Rivers are tremendous talents and could no doubt surpass Lamb after the 2011-2012 season if they play the way they are capable of playing, as of RIGHT NOW, I think it is a fair assesment to have Jeremy Lamb as the best shooting guard prospect for the 2012 NBA draft.

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  • #567019
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     While I respect people’s skepticisim about him, I have to disagree.  I am not saying LAMB will be a star, but I am saying I think he will have a nice NBA career and what he has shown so far has waranted his draft position in the 2012 mock…IMO of course.  

    We all know how he finished his freshman year at Uconn, so I won’t go into detail about how outstanding he was there.  I have watched every game USA has played in the FIBA under 19 championship being held right now in Latvia.  Jeremy Lamb has looked FANTASTIC.  He is 4th in scoring in the tournament and really has been the leader of that team.  His stroke has looked pretty good and when the US needs buckets, he delivers.  He has displayed the "ice water" in his viens that he showed during the NCAA tournament.  It’s not just his offense. On the defensive end he has been extremely disruptful because of his tremendous length, averaging more than 2 steals a game.  The competition has been pretty decent so his stats shouldn’t be taken lightly, as well as the other things he’s been doing that don’t show up in the box score….http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/11/fu19m/statistics/p/top-players.html

    By no means is he a complete player.  He obviously needs to add a little more weight to his frame and his ball handling needs to tighten up a little bit.  While Brad Beal and Austin Rivers are tremendous talents and could no doubt surpass Lamb after the 2011-2012 season if they play the way they are capable of playing, as of RIGHT NOW, I think it is a fair assesment to have Jeremy Lamb as the best shooting guard prospect for the 2012 NBA draft.

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  • #567102
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     Gaddy had surgery on his knee last season so i question if he will be ready right away. Also im from Louisville,Ky and UofL could have landed Wroten but the deal breaker was he wanted to play PG here and Pitino wouldn’t promise him that. So I believe Lorenzo Romar will give him the keys to the offense. Gaddy wasn’t exactly tearing it up b4 he got hurt anyway. On top of that even if Gaddy was healthy Wroten has the advantage with his size, speed, athleticism, and court vision, i doubt that if Romar made it a competition 4 the starting spot that Gaddy could beat Wroten out. Wroten is just a more superior talent!

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  • #567204
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     Gaddy had surgery on his knee last season so i question if he will be ready right away. Also im from Louisville,Ky and UofL could have landed Wroten but the deal breaker was he wanted to play PG here and Pitino wouldn’t promise him that. So I believe Lorenzo Romar will give him the keys to the offense. Gaddy wasn’t exactly tearing it up b4 he got hurt anyway. On top of that even if Gaddy was healthy Wroten has the advantage with his size, speed, athleticism, and court vision, i doubt that if Romar made it a competition 4 the starting spot that Gaddy could beat Wroten out. Wroten is just a more superior talent!

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  • #567116
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    You don’t have to be tearing it up to retain the pg spot as a upper class man if you do the little things like Gaddy did. Same situation at Texas with there pg who wasn’t much on offense but didn’t make mistakes and played very good defense. Wroten is a good player but he makes a good amount of mistakes because he tries to be to fancy and plays too much street ball. He has the ability to mix it up and if he does that he will have a great chance at being the pg from day one. Hopefully the coach will teach him how to mix the street game with the college team game like Fresno St coach did with Skip to my lou

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  • #567218
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    You don’t have to be tearing it up to retain the pg spot as a upper class man if you do the little things like Gaddy did. Same situation at Texas with there pg who wasn’t much on offense but didn’t make mistakes and played very good defense. Wroten is a good player but he makes a good amount of mistakes because he tries to be to fancy and plays too much street ball. He has the ability to mix it up and if he does that he will have a great chance at being the pg from day one. Hopefully the coach will teach him how to mix the street game with the college team game like Fresno St coach did with Skip to my lou

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  • #567131
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     I think Gaddy really only had the starting spot becuase Isaiah Thomas is a more natural scorer and can play off the ball……..however notice how U-Dub seem to take off when Gaddy got hurt. Yes you will have your growing pains with Wroten as u would with any freshman. But as i mentioned b4 he is just the more superior talent and the flaw he has with trying to be fancy can quickly be corrected if he buys in to what Romar is teaching. The guy will be a stud PG and his upside is ridiculous!!!

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  • #567234
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     I think Gaddy really only had the starting spot becuase Isaiah Thomas is a more natural scorer and can play off the ball……..however notice how U-Dub seem to take off when Gaddy got hurt. Yes you will have your growing pains with Wroten as u would with any freshman. But as i mentioned b4 he is just the more superior talent and the flaw he has with trying to be fancy can quickly be corrected if he buys in to what Romar is teaching. The guy will be a stud PG and his upside is ridiculous!!!

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  • #567141
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    kobyz
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    to me Austin Rivers is more of a PG, like in the mold of Jrue Holiday!

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    • #567143
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      WizardofOz
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      Austin Rivers isn’t a PG AT ALL! He has limited court vision, and basically always looks for his own shot.

      He’s a great scorer though.

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    • #567246
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      Austin Rivers isn’t a PG AT ALL! He has limited court vision, and basically always looks for his own shot.

      He’s a great scorer though.

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  • #567244
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    to me Austin Rivers is more of a PG, like in the mold of Jrue Holiday!

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  • #567147
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    Cardinal_Fan
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     Austin Rivers imo = Monta Ellis

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  • #567250
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    Cardinal_Fan
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     Austin Rivers imo = Monta Ellis

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  • #567304
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    Bmore_DC
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    cjwhitaker….

    i see what your saying but lets wait and see him play at least one college game before we go and compare him to a potential all-star

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  • #567201
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    cjwhitaker….

    i see what your saying but lets wait and see him play at least one college game before we go and compare him to a potential all-star

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  • #567669
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    Rivers actually has very good vision but he is wired to score. Like most scorers he could average alot of assists but his mind set is to score and he’s at his best when he’s doing that

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  • #567780
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    Rivers actually has very good vision but he is wired to score. Like most scorers he could average alot of assists but his mind set is to score and he’s at his best when he’s doing that

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