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Top NBA Shooting Guards 25 Or Under

It seems like the SG position in the NBA is starting to thin out in much the same way the Center position is having problems but not to the same extent. A handful or more years ago the top shooting guards met the prototypical measures, skill set, and athleticism. Examples include Ray Allen, Kobe Bryant, Vince Carter, Michael Redd, Joe Johnson, Rip Hamilton, Brandon Roy and Dwayne Wade. Now Wade is kind of a stretch because he is a little on the short side for a SG but the other guys had height, shooting & ballhandling skills along with, athleticism. I'm sure I'm forgetting a few guys here. Today a lot of the top shooting guards don't really seem to have the same measurements. The top SG's 25 or under includes guys like Eric Gordon and Monta Ellis right at the top of the list and neither really meets those traditionally measurements. So who are the next generation at this position in the NBA

So who would you say are the top 10 SG's under 25 and who would you say are the top 5 SG outside of the NBA. Here are my lists

Top 10 Shooting Guards In NBA Under 25

1. Eric Gordon

2. Monta Ellis

3. Tyreke Evans

4. DeMar DeRozan

5. James Harden

6. Wes Matthews

7. Dorell Wright - Might be more of a small forward but does play SG

8. Wilson Chandler - Same thing as Dorell Wright

9. Marcus Thornton

10. OJ Mayo

Top SG Prospects

1. Harrison Barnes

2. Shabazz Muhammad

3. Brad Beal

4. Theo Pinson

5. Rodney Purvis


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Forget To List

Tracey McGrady as someone from awhile ago who filled out the profile. It just seems like the SG position was so much more dominant before, now the PG position has taken over.

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I think Tyreke is considered as a PG,

although it may not seem like it.

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Tyreke

Tyreke is not a point guard or atleast he shouldn't be. Even the Kings have figured that out.

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Chandler and Wright

are considered SF's as well.

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Your Mother

Your Mother is a Small Forward

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Isnt JR Smith under 25?

Isnt JR Smith under 25?

EDIT: Nevermind..he IS 25

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Um

Read the title fool

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It seems like Dorell Wright

It seems like Dorell Wright should be way over 25. He played for the Heat with Shaq and Eddie Jones when they won the title.

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I would consider Gerald

I would consider Gerald Henderson and Jordan Crawford if Dorell Wright and Wilson Chandler don't cut it as a SG.

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^

Came out of High School in 04, and he is 25, so wouldn't JR Smith count, the tittle says 25 or under.

@Lester Wolf, how ya doin ya little troll, hey, can I give you a suggestion for your next fake post, how about

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Allen Iverson mentoring

Allen Iverson mentoring Westbrook on passing made me chuckle..lmao

And sheeesh, Wright and Smith have been in the league for forever, and theyre only 25, damn..

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JR Smith Would Count

I just don't think he belongs in the top 10, he certianly has the physical ability to be one of the best SG's in the league but he doesn't seem to have the drive or basketball sense to achieve his potential. Also I would never want that guy on my team unless it was an all veteran team and he had a defined role.

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I think i'd put Ellis #1 and

I think i'd put Ellis #1 and maybe even put Evans ahead of Gordon.

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Great Post!! I can't believe

Great Post!! I can't believe how rail thin the talent is at the SG position for the future

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Gordon is much more of a

Gordon is much more of a traditional sg and much better shooter though Tyreke is much better play maker but also somewhat of a ball stopper.. Also I wouldn't consider Harrison Barnes a sg.

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I think barnes will play more

I think barnes will play more SF than SG in the NBA. But nice post btw

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OJ should and will move up as

OJ should and will move up as soon as he gets the opportunity. He just had the worst imaginable year last year.

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I can't belive you forgot..

DeMar DeRozan. He is one of my favorite players in the league and is getting better and better every year. You can say he is a SF, but he is definitley a 2 guard too. He has to be in the top five of this list.

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I can't belive you forgot..

DeMar DeRozan. He is one of my favorite players in the league and is getting better and better every year. You can say he is a SF, but he is definitley a 2 guard too. He has to be in the top five of this list.

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@bdiddy

Shaun Livingston can imagine worse, much worse, but I agree about Mayo

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To be honest Id go 1. Eric

To be honest Id go

1. Eric Gordon (my boy btw Im an IU alum and was there when he played him and jordan crawford were nasty together before Kelvin Sampson got caught cheating and &$#%#&@!) Doesnt take as many shots as youd think to get the points he averages which is always great, as in college most of his points come from 3s and the freethrow line although I havent been able to watch much of him in the NBA since hes in LA.

2. DeMar DeroZan, averaged less shots and less minutes than Evans(this season and throughout theyr 2 years) while only averaging .6 less ppg and 5 assists less which I have no doubt he would have averaged if played PG throughout the year along with SG. Has just as much if not more playmaking ability than Evans also wer just not exposed to him nearly as much as we see Evans sounds wierd being that the Kings are so &$#%#&@! but DeRozans up in Canada. Also Derozan shot 46.7% to Evans 40.9%

3. Tyreke Evans, ROY and wev seen him play enough PG to know hel be a top SG so he needs the least convincing argument next to Gordon

4. Monta Ellis-if your going to lead the league in shooting next to the one man offensive show that is Derrick Rose like Ellis did while playing 40mpg on a team thats all offense you better be the league leading scorer which Ellis was not. Undersized making him one dimensional player, 2 and 3 on this list can beat you going to the hoop or shooting while Gordon is money when he shoots plus has ups so when he drives he compensates when given the opportunity being that he draws contact alot and so the foul. Plus hes the oldest by far here so what you see is kinda what you get everyone else here can grow at their position by leaps and bounds except maybe Gordon whose already an excellent NBA player and one of the best Period at around his age. Also a one position guy too turnover prone to play the point while 2 and 3 on this list can play multiple positions and Gordons young enough that who knows if he can become a better passer he coud probably fill in at the point throughout the game

Everyone else the person who created this thread listed is interchangable at any slot for a number of reasons its really just all preference. Mayo or Matthews could easily take the 5 spot from Harden whereas Harden could easily take the 10 spot. Personally Idont think Wright or Chandler belong on this list they play SG for two reasons, theyr on a team with depth and smart coaching. They can shoot which fills any SG requirement and any positinal requirement except center really, arent too slow, and best of all theyr tall. Everycoach in the NBA would love to start a guy at 6'8 or insert him into the lineup at SG they just so happen to give their coaches an opportunity to do that.

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^tyreke evans over monta

^tyreke evans over monta ellis is a pure tragedy...im shocked and dumbfounded at that horrid comment

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^

Warrior fans every where applaud you Taylor.

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I know people are going to

I know people are going to disagree with me, but I really don't think DeRozan will pan out. He needs to learn how to become a better distributor, and a better rebounder. He also needs to improve his shot quite a bit. He is a high flyer, and he did do well last season, but I am not too high on him. I can see him being a solid role player off the bench getting 13 a game, but not the franchise superstar every one thinks he will be.

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I really enjoyed this post

I really enjoyed this post especially Eric Gordon being number one however I think Monta should probably be first right now considering he became a clutch scoring machine last year.

But I do have to say that both Wilson Chandler and Dorrel Wright are Small Forwards and should not be on this list at all. Sure they can both play 2guard but they're both about 6'8 and Wright started every game at Small Forward last year and with the Klay Thompson pick it ensures that even if Ellis is traded Wright will be the Small Forward. And Chandler the samething, the Nuggets had Affalo starting at 2 guard. I just don't understand how 2 guys who played almost exclusively at Small Forward last year are on this list.

So my replacements are 2 rookies from last year who I would put at 9 and 10 right after Mayo.

9. Evan Turner- Turner is everything you want in a young player. He plays tough defense, is versatile, doesn't turn the ball over, isn't a ball stopper, isn't scared of the moment, and has a knack for always making plays in the moment. He can be both the facilitator and go to scorer, and last year he was in more of a facilitator role. But just check out game 4 of the Sixers vs Heat series to understand what he is capable of. There should be no doubts that if he played on the Wolves or even had Fields role on the Knicks that he would of been a unaminous first team rookie.

10. Paul George- Very impressive specimen with a great work ethic. George is long and athletic with a shooters touch. He has the length and height to play small forward but considering his lack of strength and post moves combined with elite perimeter defensive mechanics and catch and shoot capabilities he seems to be the prototypical 2 guard and then some.

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no love in the prospects for

no love in the prospects for jeremy lamb

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great post! I gotta say this

great post!

I gotta say this just isn't a very deep list of players... I'm surprised so few kids who grew up watching the younger kobe, ray allen, reggie miller didn't want to follow in their footsteps.... I have no idea how you can put eric gordon in front of monta ellis.... unless you've never seen him play... the guy can straight up play.

Evans is gonna be a star in this league for years... his rookie stats were out of the roof 20pt 5r 5a is incredible... who can blame him for slipping a little... if he develops a consistent jumpshot he will be unstoppable... if we look back lebron was accused of not having a good enough jump shot when he came into the league too...

OJ mayo... he has proven that he can shoot a lot... but eventually he will start making a lot of them right?

I'm a big fan of wes matthews and demar derozan... they've proven that they can score and defend with the best...

what about nick young? he had quite a year this year and has a pretty high ceiling.. props ag-pennypacker tough topic to start off!

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^^ Yeah I think Nick Young

^^ Yeah I think Nick Young deserves some mention too.

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I think Monta Ellis is Better

I think Monta Ellis is Better than Eric Gordon..

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I really like Wes Matthews

I really like Wes Matthews also..
But IMO Ellis and Gordon are like 1a 1b.. honestly they can both straight up ball.

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I think Gordon's two way game

I think Gordon's two way game puts him over the edge; he was having an amazing season before he got hit with that injury and really stepped up with Baron Davis out. Gordon is a consummate defender whereas Ellis is a liability. When the Clippers beat the Heat this season it was Eric Gordon who more or less contained Dwyane Wade, which is no mean feat.

Hard to believe Ellis is under 25 still, seems like he's been around forever.

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There seems to be some

There seems to be some confusion about Chandler and Wright. Are we doing swingmen or the 2guards? Because if we are doing 2 guards I cannot see for the life of me why 2 players who played small forward are on this lists. Neither Chandler nor Wright are going to be starting for their teams at shooting guard anytime soon and probably never. Like I said the Warriors just drafted another shooting guard to go along with the guy on their team who is second on this list to play shooting guard. The Warriors obviously do not consider Wright a shooting guard.

How are 2 players from the same starting lineup of the same team even on this position specific lists?never

And Wilson Chandler never even started 2 guard for the Knicks as they went with the rookie Fields instead. And then after the trade to Denver he came off the bench still in favor of Affalo and I followed Denver alot after the trade so I can tell you that Chandler in fact played more power forward then shooting guard for them. Denver use to go small a lot with Felton and Lawson when Smith or Affalo werent playing 2 guard and played Chandler exclusively at Forward. He had some monster rebounding games too playing Forward.

So why would you put 2 players on this list who haven't started for their teams at shooting guard in the past and their teams have no intentions of starting them their in the future?

And I can't believe I just read that Demar Derozan has more playmaking ability then Tyreke Evans you have got to be kidding. Demar Derozan isn't even anywhere close to being the elite ball handler that Evans is and could never break an NBA press playing point you know nothing about how basketball is played.

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@NYBALLAS...How can you first

@NYBALLAS...How can you first put Evans ahead of Ellis. Then use the example that he can both drive and shoot, when part of the reason Reke sucked this year (compared to year one) was because teams finally backed off and dared him to shoot which he couldn't do. Monta has developed into one of the best midrange shooters in the game coupled with his unbelievebable driving abilities and very increased playmaking. Finally you make it seem as if he's a slouch shooter in comparison to Gordon yet they both shot 36% from deep on the same amount of shots. While Gordon may be a abetter defender, it's not by much, not enough to talk about, while Ellis has become a better playmaker avg 1.2 more ast and only a half a turnover more. Derozan is laughable that high. Whoever said Ellis and Gordon are 1a. and 1b. are definitely right IMO. If I were to do the rankings, it'd go something like this.

1a.Monta Ellis

1b.Eric Gordon

3.Reke Havoc

4.James Harden

5.OJ Mayo

6.DeMar Derozan

7.Wes Mathews

8.JR Smith

9.Marcus Thornton

10.CJ Miles (plays more 3 but is clearly a 2)

Didn't put Nick Young on here because he has actually turned 26. Turner, Wes Johnson, Jordan Crawford were eft off as well due to being rookies and not showing enough.

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you're guys so fools! Evan

you're guys so fools! Evan Turner should be first on everybody own list!

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1. Evan Turner 2. DeMar

1. Evan Turner

2. DeMar Derozan

2. James Harden

4. Monta Ellis

5. Tyreke Evans

6. Paul George

7. OJ Mayo

8. .Eric Gordon

9. Gerald Henderson

10. Wes Mathews

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Where's my guy Jeremy Lamb on

Where's my guy Jeremy Lamb on the prospect list? I think he's a better prospect that Beal....Also I would consider Dorell Wright and Chandler more sf than sg...

I've got Gordon ahead of Monta b/c he is a better defender

1. Gordon

2. Ellis

3. Tyreke

4. Harden

5. Mayo

6. Derozan

7. JR Smith

8. Mathews

9. Henderson

10. Turner

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I really hope that Alec Burks

I really hope that Alec Burks makes the list in a few years.

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Pretty good list

Pretty good list

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its funny that even after all

its funny that even after all these years with the warriors playing pick up ball and you have guys like reggie williams, dorrell wright, anthony morrow, (insert random wing player here) that play NO defense at all, and come to the warriors and have multiple 20 pt games in a season. ellis has never had to play in an actual system that was comprised of more than run and gun and 0 defense. hes not better than eric gordon nor tyreke evans, both of which play defense and contribute more than just with scoring. tyreke had a bad year because he was playing with plantar fascitis all season and he was doubled and tripled every single night. ellis is as one dimensional as it gets lets not be nieve to that fact because he scores at a high clip. he's "peaked" in terms of his potential and on a contending team he would be a sixth man, not even a starter, whereas tyreke and eric gordon start over just about every other guard besides the dwades, kobes etc etc. bring the negatives, it just irks me that people really dont see through things like this......

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^ True. Its the same thing

^ True. Its the same thing with the Kings and there up and down run and gun style

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Not really sure how a guy who

Not really sure how a guy who only passes as a VERY last resort, and yet can't shoot a j to save his life and ABSOLUTELY has to have the ball in his hands 90% of the time like Reke Havoc would be a starter on most teams. Guys like Evans are usually the type who are 6th man for a team FYI. BTW, if Reke was so a amazing, he'd have managed to do better with his team than they did this year. It's not like they lack talent. He's a guy who can put up numbers on a bad team, but is nothing more than a 6th man on a winner. At least not unti he gets a reliable J.

Enter Monta, who while he may be more of a scorer, he still manages to put these numbers up with quite a few other offensive options around him and has never been put into a defense that holds everyone accountable yet still manages 2 stl per, showing that the defensive potentia is there. I agree that Monta is either a scoring PG beside of a bigger sg like Manu,Harden, or a Mckie in his prime, or he's a 6th man like Tery or Crawford. But he IMO, has SUCH a tremendous offensive game, that he would start on amost any contending team. The guy has become a clutch machine and has one of the best midrange games in the business.

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^^^ I do believe that neither

^^^ I do believe that neither of these guys will do much winning as the main guys more than likely, but I do beieve that the Warriors will at least make playoffs this year.

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Monta isn't a great defender,

Monta isn't a great defender, but he isn't a liability either. I've seen him put B. Roy on lock, and this was before he had major knee issues. EJ is one of my favorite players, but I'd put Monta over him right now. Monta is a better ball handler, passer and has a better mid-range game as of right now. EJ is more of a power guard who can get to the line and shoot the deep ball. EJ is a better defender and plays a better team game, but that isn't enough for me to put him ahead of Monta yet.

And I'd take Harden over Reke. Harden doesn't need to dominate the ball and he can play off of another great player. He defends and passes just as well too in my opinion.

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I always thought EG was

I always thought EG was better then he actually is but the more i watch him the more flaws i see. He's still a good player but not the number one option i thought he was

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Tyreke has had to have the

Tyreke has had to have the ball in his hands as much as hes had because the kings havent had other players who could create until the acquisition of marcus thornton... yes he needs to improve his jumper but he plays top notch defense when its called upon, can get you 6-8 assists nightly, and has a much more complete game than monta ellis. ellis has been in the league for almost 6 or 7 years now and the only improvements he has are in his scoring and playing on the warriors what more do you expect. also, the warriors run and gun so much that its possible for other guys (curry, david lee) to score 15 or more a night since they play no defense and just run. itll be interesting to see how they play this year with mark jackson as coach and a supposed focus on defense and all these guys have to actually play defense. also they won't make the playoffs. iguapops must be a homer... i hate homers...

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^^^ And you must be

^^^ And you must be 14.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui73Jim4xKg .....ouch.

http://www.82games.com/1011/10SAC6.HTM don't look too good for you talk about a guy who can do it all. Funny how a guy who 63% of his FG'S come from that of the jumpshot variety yet only hit's at a 35% CLIP.Not Very Efficient bud.

http://www.82games.com/1011/10GSW4.HTM Enter Ellis who has 77% of his FGA come from jumpers yet hits at 44%(Also not amazing), but manages to mix it up shooting 21% of FGA from close at a 66% clip and 23%FGA from inside at a 68% clip. Not to mention they avg the same amount of ast and nearly same amount of t.o.

If you hate homers, perhaps you should grow up, look in the mirror and decide to stop being one yourself because you can never truely be happy with others until youre happy w/ yourself... kid. Don't be mad because I gave you an educated opinion about Monta and Reke. If you don't agree, that's fine, but don't ever call me a homer. I'm a basketball fan first and foremost. I call the game as I see it, and apparently am agreed with on here. I have no problem with you saying that Reke is the best because it's your opinion, but when I give you multiple reasons as to why I disagree and you keep saying the same thing about run and gun offenses w/ no other examples then call ME a homer, I become very offended and do take it personal. Your opinions and insight is more than welcome, but do us all a favor and keep your childish name calling to yourself bro.

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I think Monta is a very good

I think Monta is a very good player, but I do not understand why GS keeps him around; he has great trade value and has shown repeatedly that he is not what they need in order to put together a successful team. He has plenty of good years left but needs a change of scenery, which would be best for both GS and Monta.

As far as my list:

1. Eric Gordon

2. Tyreke Evans

3. Monta Ellis

4. James Harden

5. Demar Derozan

6. Marcus Thornton

7. Wes Matthews

8. OJ Mayo

9. JR Smith

10. Evan Turner

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Wilson Chandler is just fine

Wilson Chandler is just fine on this list. He played a lot of SG for the nuggets alongside Danillo.

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