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Top Centers in the league

Who is on your list of the top Centers in the league? I'm noticing brook Lopez is getting a lot of publicity lately after his play in the playoffs as the most offensively skilled big in the league. Marc gasol is also being argued as the best big because of his passing ability and defense. Dwight Howard seems to have taken a tremendous fall from the top after his drama filled season and injuries. I just want a list of your top 5 centers in the L. By the way the only reason in not including Tim Duncan and other hybrid bigs is because I'm trying to use strictly centers.

My 5:
1.Marc Gasol(because of all around game)
2. Dwight Howard: despite tumultuous season I can't justify not having him in my top 3. Still a force inside No matter how childish he is.
3. Brook Lopez: best scoring center in the League IMO.
4. Demarcus Cousins: another very talented big with some attitude problems. Can be a real force when he sets his mind to it.
5. Andrew Bynum: I know he didnt play this season but when the guy does play he's money. Another young player who has to get his head right though.

Honorable mention: Joakim Noah, Roy hibbert, Tyson chandler


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1. Marc Gasol 2. Tim

1. Marc Gasol
2. Tim Duncan
3. Tyson Chandler
4. Brook Lopez
5. Greg Monroe

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Two of those guys are power

Two of those guys are power forwards.

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Cousins? You couldn't think

Cousins? You couldn't think of anyone who shoots a better percentage than a guard, or protects the rim, or can hold on to the ball, or anything?

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Tyson chandler is the third

Tyson chandler is the third best center in the league. That's why he made team USA. I would love to play with Tyson chandler. You don't have to give him the ball and he plays some of the best d.

Nikola vucivic honorable mention

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1) Dwight Howard - lets not

1) Dwight Howard - lets not be silly here, hes still the game's premier center
2) Marc Gasol - excellent and efficient
3) Brook Lopez - phenomenal scorer
4) Tyson Chandler - exceptional defensive presence in the paint
5) Al Horford - 17 and 10 on 56% shooting? Clinically underrated

next in line: kevin garnett, andrew bynum, joakim noah, nikola vucevic

i consider tim duncan and greg monroe PF's (tiago splitter and andre drummond as 5's)

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If you look at just straight

If you look at just straight numbers, then yes Dwight would come out on top. But if you look at impact and versatility, to me it'd be Gasol or Duncan. Dwight, when he has everything catered around him, can put up some fantastic numbers. He's a dominant rebounder and an underrated post scorer, but Gasol is a post PLAYER. He is bar none, the best post passer in the league and you can run offense through him until the final buzzer because he can hit FTs. He's also not just a low post player, you can run PnR with him and he can play high post as well because of his high/low passing ability and ability to hit mid-range jumpers. Dwight can only play low post or be used as a roller (which btw he does begrudgingly). To this day he's still a crappy passer out of the post and is a prime candidate to get stripped because he still lacks great awareness. Defensively they're both good, but Gasol's offensive versatility puts him over the edge for me. Dwight's also a bit of a mental midget as well, so that puts Gasol and TD even more over him in my book. Gasol and TD are poised and intelligent. They can think the game and anticipate steps ahead. Dwight is well...kinda dumb.

Props for the Al Horford mention though, especially considering he's a PF who's been playing out of position his entire career.

I'd go:

1. M.Gasol
2. T.Duncan
3. D.Howard
4. B.Lopez
5. A.Horford

Joakim would be right there with Horford, but he misses way too many games and he isn't as good offensively.

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What does brook Lopez do

What does brook Lopez do besides score and block a few shots? He rebounds like a guard, his shot selection is probably the worst among centers along with cousins and gets abused in pick n rolls because of his slow feet. Explain why he's better than guys like Demarcus cousins or Greg Monroe?

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What does brook Lopez do

What does brook Lopez do besides score and block a few shots? He rebounds like a guard, his shot selection is probably the worst among centers along with cousins
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Really, he rebounds like a guard? Remind me again how many guards grab 8.2 rebounds per 36 minutes? Maybe if that guard is Magic Johnson. His shot selection is so bad yet he still manages to convert 52% of his field goals.

Lopez is probably the best scoring center in the league and is highly efficient. He's more efficient, protects the rim better and doesn't turn the ball over or take as many fouls as Cousins. I get it you don't like Lopez's game but using hyperbole to describe it isn't going to make your argument more credible.

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How about the year before

How about the year before when he played more than 36 minutes he barely averaged more than 6 rebounds a game?

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Right so you use one year out

Right so you use one year out of FOUR in order to try to tear him apart. If this thread was started last year you might have a point...

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Because he is THE best scorer

Because he is THE best scorer among all C's. That counts for something. And while he does have slow feet, he actually defends in space well. His PPPa in iso situations is really good and his rate vs the PnR is very solid as well. Because of his sheer size and length, he's a pretty good shot blocker too.

Cousins has the potential to get there but he's not there yet. He's still clueless about what he can and can't do at this level, which is why he is so inefficient, TO prone and inconsistent.

Monroe's play seems to have leveled off. He put up some nice numbers on a terrible team, but I didn't see much improvement. He's a guy who likes to face up and wheel into the lane using his left. Sit on his left hand and he's not gonna do much offensively in terms of scoring. He still can't shoot, he's limited athletically and seemingly cant do anything with his off hand. Defensively he's just solid but unspectacular. He defends fairly well in space, but he's not a shot deterrent and his post defense leaves a lot to be desired.

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Siggy Lopez is the best

Siggy Lopez is the best scoring center. He is average at best defensively and and can be a black hole offensively rarely passing out of double teams and he's a poor passer. Yea cousins is clueless out there but with the right mindset and coaching staff he can be better than Lopez next season. Greg Monroe does put up numbers but he can be a 20 / 10, one of the best rebounders and one of the best passers at the center position. Also what about al Jefferson? He and Lopez are probably the 2 best scoring centers while both can block shots despite being average defenders at best.

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And he's still the best

And he's still the best scoring C in the game. Best scoring center + average defensively is a top 5 C in this era.

Next season is not this season. If, if , if... At some point, Cousins has to be seen for what he is and not what he could be. What he is is not a top 5 Center.

Monroe has stagnated. IMO, he wasn't a top 5 C last yr so he isn't this yr. He didn't show much growth at all this yr.

Al Jeff wouldn't make my top 5 either. He's a good scorer for a C, but does so on high volume and middling efficiency, below average for a C. As inefficient of a scorer that Cousins is, Jefferson was actually slightly worse because he doesn't even get to the line.

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How many pistons games have

How many pistons games have you seen to actually say Monroe has stagnated?

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What is the threshold of

What is the threshold of games I would've had to watch to have an opinion of a player?

USG rate up, yet:

FG% is down.
Total efficiency went down.
He didn't finish as well around the rim. EFG around the rim went down.
He didn't develop a jump shot. In fact he shot worse from the field on jumpers.
His FT% regressed.
Total rebound rate down.
TO rate up.
Offensive Rating down.
Defensive rating down.
Win shares down.
His individual defense didn't improve (19.3 PER against in 2012, 19.6 PER against in 2013)
PER down.

Beyond the numbers he didn't add any new wrinkles or facets to his offensive game. He's still very right shoulder dominant, with no counter over his left shoulder. He's a guy who likes to turn and face yet has no jumper. Quality passer, but he's not good enough offensively to be used as a hub of an offense surrounded by better offensive talent.

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Well no I'm just wondering do

Well no I'm just wondering do you just go by stats and box scores or do you watch these players play

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It's crazy to me how Joakim

It's crazy to me how Joakim Noah still gets no love. Not saying he's number one but I'd put him in the 4-5 range.

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1. Dwight 2. Gasol 3.

1. Dwight
2. Gasol
3. Lopez
4. Noah
5. Chandler

Horford is a very close 6. I don't know how good Bynum is going to be when he comes back, but if he's healthy he's top 3. Cousins can get there if he gets it together mentally. Drummond will be on this list sooner than people think.

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I'm also considering Duncan

I'm also considering Duncan as a PF. He's top 2 or 3 if he's considered a center.

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1) Howard 2)Marc

1) Howard
2)Marc Gasol
3)Brook Lopez
4)Al Jefferson
5)Noah

Surprised no one had Al Jefferson on their list.

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That's because Jefferson

That's because Jefferson isn't a top 5 center... I'd take Howard, Noah, Lopez, Bogut (the Bogut who played the last playoff game), Hibbert, Gasol, Bynum, Chandler, Horford, and Duncan (who could be considered as a Power Forward) over him

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Right now

1. Marc Gasol
2. Brook Lopez (so good offensively but really not impressive defensively)
3. Dwight Howard
4. Tyson Chandler (best rebounder in NBA IMO, when healthy)
5. Joakim Noah
Next in line: Roy Hibbert & Al Horford

I consider Duncan and Monroe more of PF's but think they could be top 5-ish centers.

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Right now

1. Marc Gasol
2. Brook Lopez (so good offensively but really not impressive defensively)
3. Dwight Howard
4. Tyson Chandler (best rebounder in NBA IMO, when healthy)
5. Joakim Noah
Next in line: Roy Hibbert & Al Horford

I consider Duncan and Monroe more of PF's but think they could be top 5-ish centers.

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Right now

Unfortunate double post-- sorry.

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Dwight is no longer the

Dwight is no longer the "unanimous" #1 pick for Center. I think it is a 3 way tie between Timmy, Gasol, and Brook . Did anyone hear Chuck and Shaq dis Dwight about how he doenst even do a good job calling for the ball in the post.

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People putting Brook Lopez

People putting Brook Lopez ahead of Dwight Howard is hilarious

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So I guess Shaq must be crazy

So I guess Shaq must be crazy also. His top center is Brook, While Chuck's is Gasol

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This is how I see it as of

This is how I see it as of this year (note: I am not counting Tim Duncan, Greg Monroe or Nene as centers and I'm not considering Andrew Bynum because he missed the entire season)

1. Dwight Howard - 17.1 PPG, 57.8 FG%, 12.4 RPG, 2.4 BPG
Yeah he had a poor season but the gap between him and the other centers in the league was so large that while it shrunk it still exists.

2. Marc Gasol - 14.1 PPG, 7.8 RPG, 4 APG, 1.7 BPG, 84.8 FT%
An excellent defender that can also score and pass, Gasol is the most versatile center in the league.

3. Joakim Noah - 11.9 PPG, 11.4 RPG, 4 APG, 2.1 BPG, 1.2 SPG
A top defender, can also pass and get hustle baskets, excellent motor, proved his value with Rose out for the year

4. Brook Lopez - 19.4 PPG, 6.9 RPG, 2.1 BPG, 24.7 PER
The best scoring center in the league, highly efficient

5. Tyson Chandler - 10.4 PPG, 63.7 FG%, 10.7 RPG, 1.1 BPG
One of the best defenders in the league, he has been a game changer for the Knicks.

6. Al Horford - 17.4 PPG, 54.3 FG%, 10.2 RPG, 3.2 APG
One of the most consistent and underrated players in the league.

7. Al Jefferson - 17.8 PPG, 9.2 RPG, 1.1 BPG
His numbers are deserving of being top 3, but he's a poor defender and a black hole on offense.

8. Kevin Garnett - 14.8 PPG, 7.8 RPG, 1.1 SPG, 19.2 PER
Old, but still very effective in the middle

9. Roy Hibbert - 11.9 PPG, 8.3 RPG, 2.6 BPG
The centerpiece of the Pacers dominant defense this past season.

10. DeMarcus Cousins - 17.1 PPG, 9.9 RPG, 2.7 APG
Needs to improve around the hoop, and cut down on fouls/turnovers, will never be a good defender but sky high potential.

11. Nik Pekovic - 16.3 PPG, 52 FG%, 8.8 RPG
Might be the strongest center in the league, simple a beast in the low post.

12. Nikola Vucevic - 13.1 PPG, 51.9 FG%, 11.9 RPG
Terrific rebounder and more skilled offensively than given credit

13. Omer Asik - 10.1 PPG, 54.1 FG%, 11.7 RPG, 1.1 BPG
Played up to the big contract he received in the offseason, his interior defense was invaluable to the Rockets

14. Larry Sanders - 9.8 PPG, 9.5 RPG, 2.8 BPG, 27.3 MPG
Breakthrough year for the young bigman, could have a Marcus Camby like impact over the next several years

15. Anderson Varejao - 14.1 PPG, 14.4 RPG, 3.4 APG, 1.5 SPG
This last spot came down to Varejao, Bogut and Gortat but Gortat's play slipped this year without Nash, and Bogut is just starting to round into form now, Varejao was having a career year before the blood clot sidelined him.

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