This could be interesting because guys like Shawn Kemp or Arvydas Sabonis could be much, much higher.
Steve Nash while he was in Phoenix and Amare stoudemire before the knee surgery. These two were dominating everyone in their position during those times.
Shaq, Jordan, Magic, Bird, Wilt, Kareem, and Walton (no order) were the 1st seven that came to mind for me.
Jason Williams AKA WHite Chocolate was sick when he peaked. He had the ball on a string, I swear!
This topic is not that good because outside of tiny Archibald no player really played out of their mind into the elite 10. now there may be guys who were about the 100th best player of all time who had a big year that was like top 25 or so but still cant put them top 10
Grant Hill had great numbers in his early years with the Pistons.
No doubt guys like Hill, Nash, McDyess, Walton, Pippen, McGrady, had big years but still cant really make a case for top 10.
I forgot Tim duncan #5 on my list
I'm thinking this in terms of Guys that were just greatest for only in a 1-2 years peak. Not guys that are all time greats like MJ, Bird, Magic, Wilt, Russel, those guys are easy to throw out.
Yao Ming, while Shaq was at the tail end of his carreer he really was the top center in the NBA for about 2 years. Then the foot injuries took it all from him.
I'm not even sure if Petro was at his peak when he died. The guy just kept getting better and better. The Jordan era could have been very different if he played longer - may have ended up as one of the greatest shooting guards of all time.
I don't think this shakes anything up in terms of great players being ranked lower.
MJ - 33.5 ppg 6.7 rpg 7 apg 3 spg 1.2 bpg 53% FG
Wilt - 47 ppg 24 rpg 3.9 apg
Magic - 21.5 ppg 12.3 apg 6 rpg 1.7 spg
Bird - 29 ppg 9.2 rpg 7.2 apg 1.9 spg 52% FG 40% 3 91% FT
Shaq - 29.2 ppg 13.3 rpg 3.7 apg 2.9 bpg
See the trend? The greatest players off all time, put up some monster seasons back to back. I don't think Shawn Kemp or any lower teir star player is sneaking up with the big boys.
No T-mac? LORD the disrespect
Tracy McGrady - 30 ppg 6.2 rpg 5.5 apg 1.6 spg 43% FG shooting
I don't think it's disrespectful to leave him out. The greats have done what he's done, shot a higher percentage and won more games in the process.
No one is crying foul that Bernard King isn't mentioned
Bernard King - 29 ppg 5.4 rpg 2.9 apg 1.2 spg 55% FG shooting
Karl Malone - 30 ppg 11.4 rpg 3.05 apg 1.3 spg 54% FG
Clyde Drexler - 27.1 ppg 7.2 rpg 5.8 apg 2.6 spg
Moses Malone - 29.4 ppg 14.7 rpg 1.7 apg 1.7 bpg
Bob Pettit - 29.5 ppg 19.3 rpg 3.5 apg
Alex English - 27.4 ppg 6.5 rpg 4.9 apg 1.2 spg 1.3 bpg
David Robinson - 28.7 ppg 10.7 rpg 3.9 apg 1.7 spg 3.3 bpg
John Stockton - 17.2 ppg 14.3 apg 2.7 rpg 2.8 spg 51/38/83
All Hall of Famers, all not going to be ousted by a flash in the pan type player.
Good job with the stats. Just curious if you would have Drazen's stats for his best two seasons (Nets obviously)
I'm off to work, but basketball-reference.com is great for getting stats.
Thanks. I'll check it out.
You forgot Oscar Robertson! 30.8 ppg, 11.4 apg, 12.5 rpg, 48 FG%.
I'm surprised not many people are talking about those early 2000 players. I know they weren't the greatest, but some of those guys just went off some years. Vince Carter's 2nd and 3rd years in the league he was just amazing putting up about 26 ppg 6 rpg 4 apg 1 spg 1 bpg on 46% shooting and 40% from three. Same could be said about guys like Iverson, Arenas, T-Mac, Pierce, Allen, J.O'Neil, and a bunch of other players.
JO and T-Mac are good calls as their peak years were a lot shorter than say someone such as AI or Paul Pierce but in that time they were near the best in their position.
Yeah, JoeWolf really hits it on the head as usual. Basketball Reference has a great tool where it compares players at each year in their career.
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Bob McAdoo yet. He was the first person I thought of when seeing this thread. Personally I would say that his 1975 season might be the best ever for a PF with 34.5 PPG, 14.1 RPG and 2.1 BPG. And it was bookended by two other fantastic years; 1974 where he put up 30.6 PPG, 15.1 RPG and 3.3 BPG and 1976 where he averaged 31.1 PPG, 12.4 RPG, 4 APG and 2.1 BPG.
For that 3 year prime from the age of 22-24 he was as good as any PF in NBA history. Guys like TD, Malone, Garnett and Barkley had far better overall careers however because they were very good for a longer period of time.
We (should) all know he averaged a 30+ppg triple double in '61-'62. He actually averaged a T-D for his first five years.
Joe Wolf: Archibald snuck up with the big boys the one year he led the league in scoring and assists
Nate Archibald has been in the Hall of Fame for 19 years. He is a "big boy"
There are over 200 nba players int he hall of fame being a hall of famer has nothing to do with top 10? Archibald did make the 50 greatest player list but I doubt he even would today in a revote with guys like Wade, Kobe, Lebron, Howard taking spots. Archibald is somewhere like 45-60 greatest player of all time but that one year was top 10 I think. Archibald is ranked as the 82nd best player on basketball reference, although that ranking is very flawed just saying.
He's in your top 10, and that's fine, you're entitled to your own opinion, but it's not common knowledge nor an undisputed list you're referring to. He put up 31 and 10 over a two year span, but that's not automatic top 10, Karl Malone did 30/11 and many guys you disregarded on your list, I'd argue had better two year spans.
Hakeem in 93-94 and 94-95 is getting underrated bad. What he did in those playoffs were legendary. You guys are getting too attached to stats which are misleading as the pace of the nba has varied greatly through the years. I dont value guys that put up inflated numbers on a bad team all that much. Nonetheless hakeem was 30ppg 12rpg 4apg 4bpg