Before I begin, ill confess once again that I am a husky homer to the core, but I would be posting this analysis if he had ditched montlake for Louisville regardless. This kid is a special player. he has the size and strenth for the PG position that comes around almost never. Think a shorter, stronger shawn livingston. he has huge hands, and a murderous crossover. Ive been watching him play in person since he was a pup at Garfield high school. I want to scream from the rafters that this kid is oozing with NBA talent. he has court vision and passing skills that never cease to blow my mind. he feeds and thrives on setting up teammates, and has the size to be a bullet taking the ball to the hole. hes a true finisher, combined with an instinct for creating plays. he makes passes that seem to defy physics. currently he runs as a sixth man but plays starter minutes. hes a ruthless on ball defender who swallows pretty much every starting PG in the college game, and his length is a serious weapon in passing lanes. his jump shot is a work in progress, but as we all know, thats the easiest skill to cultivate. the kid plays with a moxy that borders on arrogance, but hes earned it. my greatest fear as a UW fan is that he's almost one-and-done from day one. his ability to create off the bounce is truly special, and he has court vision that makes our starter, abdul gaddy look like a blind man. hes almost too good at finding holes for the rest of the team. he doesnt have the age or wisdom to be that clutch shot maker like our sacto boy I.T. ,but this kid is a prime nba pg. he is a magician in the half court, and a fighter pilot on the break. he can break apart a defense, but where he really stands out is finding those tiny passing holes that lead to an easy finish for teammates. his scoring game is yet to be determined. his jumper is inconsistent, but the kid can flat out play. he is a Top Gun in the open court, and his passes are out of this world. his cieling is higher than any kid to come through the UW program in history. he works a basketball court like its the block he grew up on. he is one of those once in a generation guys who just seems to have been born with a basketball in his hands. he has an ego that needs to be in check (peep his twitter feed for evidence), but hes in the right program for that. LORO is the best in the college game at turning boys into men. this post is mostly random thoughts, but I want the country paying attention to this kid. hes truly special. he has all the atheltic tools, and a passing gift that ive never before witnessed in person. Romar caught some flack for comparing his passing skills to Magic, but the comp is not that far off. he sees something in a basketball court that very few NBA players ever have. hes lottery material right now, and if he sticks around college basektball for more than a season we will be hearing Jay Bilas rave about him until our ears bleed. keep your eye on husky hoops. we took one on the chin from a very good Majeras coached St Louis team on the road last sunday, but LORO schedules those games with a purpose. Juice Wroten is going to be one hell of a basketball player. id take him over austin rivers without a second thought.
But seriously, we all know that Wroten is a big point guard and creative passer.
What do you think about his decision-making ability? How does his outside shooting look? Does he have a positive assist/turnover ratio yet? What's his free-throw shooting percentage?
I don't think he's a sure-fire lottery pick yet. He has impressive potential though.
all valid points. his free throw shooting is by all accounts atrocious. but its not form, its the forum. hes still getting his feet wet in the college atmosphere. in the St Louis game he looked a little gun shy. the kid is 18 years old, and his decision making is a work in progress. but lorenzo romar is the king of college basketball when it comes to developing talent into skill.Juice is in the the right hands. I am just as suspect as you are, but at this point hes still a bench player on a team deep at the guard position. his perimeter stroke is inconsistent but he has the mechanics. he never needed to drop from deep all that much, like a lot of HS kids playing against children. its definitely a weakness in his game. I dont like assit to TO ratio as a metric when evauating young prospects. I much prefer, TO to steal ratio, and hes been a devil ball hawk. im not saying hes a finished product, just undervalued. id say he is the prime PG prospect in the 2013 draft. feel free to disagree. I love a good debate. college baskeball is my life.thats why im posting at three am PST.
Lol I like how descriptive he is. You could imagine Wroten playing without having ever seen him play by reading his summary.
Damn, you would think Wroten was the next Jason Kidd based on that description... And yo next time, try just separating such a large paragraph into multiple paragraphs; makes it easier to read and less intimidating on 1st glance.
But Tony is a young point guard who'll continue to grow and gain experience. And as naturally talented as he may be, best thing is that Washington still has Gaddy still on the roster. I read a lot of Huskies blog/message boards and a lot of the fans acknowledge his importance and calming, mistake free basketball he brings to the team. With a young and at times out of control Wroten at the helm, there would be a much more cloudier outlook on this team. Everyone wants to rush guys into the league; he, as well as fans should just be patient. And everyone knows about Wroten, its not like he was a non-ranked guy like a Alec Burks, so if he turns out to be an solid nba player, it won't come as a shock. He still has a ton of time to work on his game and decision making, and will get better.
probably one of the most underrated players on this site he has star potential no doubt
You can just feel this guys passion for Wroten.
His passing ability,D, and size are what intrigue me the most. Passing ability like that doesn't come around everyday for a 2 guard. But I honestly don't know if he's ever going to be able to control a game like a PG. His decision making will develop with comfort, but will probably never be the greatest, then again you don't have to have the greatest a:t ratio to control the ball, just look and Kobe and Wade.
apologies for the run on paragraphs...ill edit dont from now on.
its no secret i have a passion for Juice. I have watched him play since middle school. I cant possibly claim hes the second coming of jason kidd, but the dude has a skillset that hardly ever comes around.
It will be interesting to see where his skills take him. he has the scoring potential to play the 2, but from what ive watched for the last 5 years he seems to be one of those kids who just loves to pass. id put his cieling as high as any college/prep player on the planet. Most people dont know he missed a year of HS ball by tearing his ACL playing football. Id say hes every bit the passer jason kidd was at the same age, but doesnt have the same level of IQ. (who does...really? JK is a first ballot HOFer). by contrast, he has the length and strength to be a much better NBA defender than Kidd ever was, and is already is a better if not equally polished perimeter shooter. my gut tells me Tony Wroten is boom or bust. you have a top five talent who kicks it on the all star team for a decade, or a headcase who never puts it together.
I want to thank you all for welcoming me to this forum. Husky basketball is my life, and I'm happy to share my insights and analysis to anyone willing to listen. our program is still an isolated outpost even though weve had a pretty consistent presence in the dance for most of LOROs tenure. I really hope wroten sticks around for a few years and develops some real basketball maturity...many people forget brandon roy declared for the draft out of high school...then flipped and stayed four years at washington. his knees have killed his career, but I think the whole process is a testament to how great of a basketball teacher we have in Lorenzo Romar. I was biting my teeth when rumors started spinning that he was being courted for the timberwolves job.
long story short, I'm your man if youre ever curious about husky hoopers.
I was getting excited about UDub as a sleeper non-top 25 squad with Ross, Wroten, Wilcox, Gaddy, and N'Diaye, but they somehow just lost to St. Louis by 13.
What happened there?
I wouldn't say he has the tools to be a better defender than Kidd. Kidd was one of the smartest defenders in his prime and matched that with terrific physical gifts. I like Wroten a lot, but lets wait to jump the gun on saying he could be better than Kidd on D.
Yeah J-Kidd is a perennial all defensive league player in his prime. And is still playing at a high level on that end now at nearly 40 years old. That statement is borderline silly. But I get your point though, Wroten has the tools and frame, but with Wroten right now, its all potential. Hopefully he'll be open to Romar's coaching and continue to improve.
i've watched wroten 4-5 times this season.
pros: his passing ability is no joke. People brag about it and rightfully so. Dude drops dimes. He has the rare court vision of seeing guys open before they are even open.
he is long. 6-5 with a good span. He rebounds well for a pg can play solid passin glane defense by reaching in and knocking things away.
4 games of college and numerous highscool highlights combined and i HATE his attacking the rim ability. He attacks like toni kukoc. He is thinking pass the whole time instead of punishing the rim. Numerous times i have seen him drive and just flail his arms while he losses the ball
His jumper is a flat footed set shot that is bad when left open and absoulutely atrocious when gaurded.
Wroten still has a ton of work to do to be an NBA PG. Right now he's averaging more turnovers than assist, he's way too erratic. He has excellent size and court vision, but will he be steady enough to stay as NBA PG is where I question.
were working with a tiny sample size. what i keep searching for is a good comp...and i just cant think of one...
we can all agree he is VERY raw. but that is what playing for washington is all about. you hit the Leauge and youre ready.
I agree that he needs to build confidence on his drive. its almost like he doesnt trust his skills and strength. My view is that if he stayed at UW for 3-4 years we would be looking at a brandon roy situation in terms of talent. that knee injury he stupidly picked up playing football has me worried. basketball is a brutal sport. it wears you out over time, especially from the waiste down. Im just stoked this forum sees his potential. I have never seen a better 16 year old in terms of feel for the the game in my life.
anybody thinking of a good comp? I take terrico white as a bit of an insult to my man. I think hes closer to kidd than a bum like TW. its funny all the press tim hardaway jr gets on this site, when none of the head honchos have put nearly the ananlysis into an equally gifted athelete with at least as many tools to work with and develop. heres one: Penny Hardaway.
what do you guys think?
regarding the st louis game...UW stunk it up. but the billikans are legit. I think they are a top three A-10 team and will be making noise in march. Washington should be humbled by the that loss, but they arent the first team from a big conference to get chumped in a road game by a good team from a second tier conference. UW is a team that tends to always play better at home...our crowd is insane...but i was surprised as anyone. that pathetic loss bummed me out.
we smashed heads in our last tune up, and that made me feel better. CJ Wilcox, aka Ray Allen, Jr, had another monster game. if this site doesnt have CJ wilcox on the draft radar they are blind. you can ship him as an NBA 3-pt specialist with a continually growing game.