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  • #43406
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    TomShoe
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     So, it turns out "Mr. PER" John Hollinger is putting up his updated player profiles for this year. I know many people want to look at them, but ESPN can be a real B- when they’re putting up paywalls and shoving the benefits of insider in your face every other article. So, for sh*ts and giggles, also because I’m pulling my hair out waiting for Oct. 5 (Celtics vs. Fenerbach Ulker), I might as well post them here, for nbadraft.net and the whole internet to enjoy.

    After posting the Lakers, here’s the 76ers, led by ex-Laker Andrew Bynum. LA Clippers up tomorrow.

    – TomShoe

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  • #715634
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    CodySLC
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    They could use another backup pg, but thats a pretty good roster overall.

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  • #715633
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    Lipstick
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    So many players on Philly who have potential to break out this season.

    Kwame Brown isn’t one of them.

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  • #715637
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    Lebron’s Hairline
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     Lol good read. I find it funny though that Kwame brown is so terrible but teams continue to throw big money at him. He’s robbing the nba blind.

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  • #715644
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    XYRYX
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     Really interesting Roster. But I think the Sixers will miss Iggys Point-Forward role more than they may think of now. I really believe Jrue will have a stellar year and will prove that he can run a team. I still don’t think there are enough players who can create the style of play which was the trademark of the sixers last year, a running team. With Bynum in now, they really have to reinvent their offense in the half court and set plays. It could work out very well if they find the right mix of inside/outside game but I’m a little concerned about their outside game. 

    Besides Nick Young there arent’t many good (mean consistent) 3 point shooters and they could really be trapped with this aspect if opponents find out that they don’t make their outside shots, slow down the tempo and let the Sixers work inside. 

    But as said before, there are a hand full of players who could really have an unexpected  all star season but they really need some outside shooters. I think both Lou Williams and Iggy have been very underrated in this category and I don’t think Wright and Thad Young will ever be consistend threats from downtown. 

    Really hope that Moultrie will grow into the rotation, I see some Chris Bosh in him.

    If holiday misses more than 20 games this season, this team could really blow up and Bynum will leave after the season.  

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    • #715646
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      Lipstick
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      They have a hell of a lot better of a chance of being a dark horse than they did with Iggy. Philly lucked out last season with Chicago losing Derrick Rose and it seems like they knew that, too. I don’t know why they got rid of Brand though and decided to bring in Kwame Brown. But this could be Thaddeus’ year to break out and maybe Allen too.

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  • #715647
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    This Year Doug Collins has to Prove how good a Coach he really is..This is an Odd Collection of Talent….

    Who is the Leader on this team? Bynum nor Jason Richardson are true leaders..

    Holiday had 1 of the worst point guard ratings in the league last season..And even though Bynum is the best addition the team has added since Iverson joined them in 1996…He does have a history of injuries…..But im also eager to see how he’ll perform as the 1st option…They really are going to miss Iggy..

    I expect them to be in the hunt for a 7th or 8th seed in the east….

     

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  • #715726
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    Mr. 19134
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     Hollinger just bashed Turner on his player card and it’s obvious he don’t like him or understand that Turner is the biggest key to success for the Sixers this season. While acknowledging that Turner shoots above average at the rim and apast 10 feet for a 2guard who also says he kills the Sixers offense because he don’t draw fouls or shoot 3’s.  Turner has the ability to hit 3’s he just rarely takes them because it’s not a high % shot for him YET.  

    He also claims Turner has average hands and feet and rarely get’s to the rim.  How can Turner put up historic rebounding numbers for a guard with average hands?  And he’s obviously never saw Turner operate in the post if he thinks he has average feet.  And I’m just gonna leave the never getting to the rim part alone because Turner is one of the best ball handling wings in the entire league.  

    Turner is gonna average around 17ppg, 7rpg, and 4 apg in around 34 mpg this year and should have the ball in his hands more then any Sixer including Holiday.  Turner was a huge reason for the Sixers success in the playoffs because he took it upon himself to make big plays at the end of close games and consistently made things happen.

    The Sixers have a big, athletic, and explosive roster this year.  It all hinges on Holiday, Turner and Bynum.

    Collins has already stated the only 3 known starters are Holiday at PG, Turner at SF (filling Iggy’s role), and Bynum at C.  While Hawes may be the starting 4, Lavoy Allen can still take that role from him.  And Jason Richardson may start at SG.

    My starting lineup would be Turner at PG, Holiday at SG, D. Wright at SF, Lavoy Allen at PF, and Bynum at C.

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  • #715730
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    Lipstick
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    "Turner has the ability to hit 3’s he just rarely takes them because it’s not a high % shot for him YET."

    That doesn’t make much sense. So he has the ability to hit 3 yet shoots 22%? He either has the ability to shoot them or he doesn’t. According to last season, he clearly doesn’t. Hopefully he can bounce back though. He can help stretch the floor for Bynum and become a more versatile scorer.

    "He also claims Turner has average hands and feet and rarely get’s to the rim. How can Turner put up historic rebounding numbers for a guard with average hands? And he’s obviously never saw Turner operate in the post if he thinks he has average feet. And I’m just gonna leave the never getting to the rim part alone because Turner is one of the best ball handling wings in the entire league. "

    Hollinger: "Willing defender with good size, but average feet and hands. Doesn’t make 3s"

    Does that sound anything like ripping on his post game and his rebounding? When did good hands become the main attribute to good rebounding? It’s called boxing out and getting position for a rebound before getting the ball. Clearly Hollinger was talking about Turner’s defense. Anyone that mentions quick feet and hands associates it with defense. Unless somehow willing defender means rebounding and his post game…

    And anyone can have good handles and not get to the rim. Clearly, Turner doesn’t get to the rim either. He was good for <2 free throw attempts per game in the regular season. If you can’t get to the rim and can’t make threes, what good is it to shoot mostly contested long twos?

    And you really think Collins is going to say "Alright screw Bynum and Holliday, Turner is our NUMBER ONE scoring option." I’m pretty sure he doesn’t want to put the 76ers in the lottery and lose his job.

    Hopefully Turner bounces back, but your criticisms of Hollinger’s profile on Turner were outrageous and comical.

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    • #715777
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      Mr. 19134
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      Saying Turner has the ability to hit 3’s doesn’t mean. he’s a great 3pt. shooter. Wade can hit 3’s but not a high % so he rarely takes them. Turner has a very good shooting touch however and will eventually become a decent 3 pt. shooter similarly to how Iggy made. himself into a decent 3 pt. shooter.

      And you have to have good hand to become a great rebounder. You also have to uave good feet to play good defense and operate in the post. What Turner lacks in elite athleticism he makes up for with great hands and feet.
      And Turner is very good at getting to the rim he was in fact better at getting to the rim off the dribble then any other Sixer last year hence why the ball was in his hands so often during crunch time in the playoffs.
      And yes Turner will have the ball in his hands more then any other Sixer because he’s the Sixers best facilitator right now and will play the same role on offense that Iggy played.

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      • #715789
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        Lipstick
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        I’m hoping he bounces back and has a good season. He was one of my favorite college basketball players and is so well-rounded, but he really struggled last year and now he has Bynum controlling the paint. How he’ll play with Bynum compared to Iggy will be very interesting.

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        • #715866
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          Mr. 19134
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          I’m with you I’m just tryna get people excited about Turner this year so when the M.I.P award bandwagon trolls through ill be driving. I’m really under the impression that Turner is going to have a huge breackout year. His game is so well rounded all you have to do is basically give him 30 plus mpg and the stats will come.

          As quick as people wanna point out the next star they wanna point out the next bust and Turner has been easy pickins since being selected 2nd by a team that had no use for him and handled him with training wheels. 2 years later the wheeels are off tho and the Sixers have been remodelled around Bynum, Holiday and Turner.

          After reading Hollinger talk about Paul George like he was the next Reggie Miller I was surprised at his Turner bashing. He starts off his profile by saying how Turner started and played big minutes on a team one gam from the ECF people think he’s good……that’s cold.

          He also goes on to acknowledge Turner shoots above the league average for a guard on 2’s but doesn’t draw fouls or hit 3’s and acts like this is insurmountable for a 23 year old guard to draw more fouls and extend his range.

          Then he talks about his ability to create low % shots while never mentioning his pure ability to create shots he just got to choose his spots better.

          And as far as Turner and Bynum the Rising Stars game Turner fed Cousins with an array of beautiful passes I expect him and Bynum to develop similar chemistry quick.

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