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TomShoe's Player Profiles: Philadelphia 76ers

So, it turns out "Mr. PER" John Hollinger is putting up his updated player profiles for this year. I know many people want to look at them, but ESPN can be a real B- when they're putting up paywalls and shoving the benefits of insider in your face every other article. So, for sh*ts and giggles, also because I'm pulling my hair out waiting for Oct. 5 (Celtics vs. Fenerbach Ulker), I might as well post them here, for nbadraft.net and the whole internet to enjoy.

After posting the Lakers, here's the 76ers, led by ex-Laker Andrew Bynum. LA Clippers up tomorrow.

- TomShoe

PROJECTED STARTERS

JRUE HOLIDAY, PG

Hollinger's 2012-13 Projections

PTS
REB
AST
PER

17.2
3.9
6.2
16.1

Stats are per 40 minutes | Hollinger player card

Scouting report
+ Big, quick point guard with good quickness and hands. Improved defender.
+ Struggling to convert talent into production offensively. Doesn't draw fouls.
+ Not a pure point guard. Needs to shoot more 3s. Good midrange shooter.

Analysis
Is the system holding him back, or is Holiday doing this on his own? His third season was a major disappointment, as he showed no progress from his first two, and the question is whether that's because his role was so limited in this system, or because he's hitting the limits of his potential.

Holiday is only 21 and entered last season as a major breakout candidate, but most of his numbers went south. He was 50th among point guards in pure point rating, 44th in true shooting percentage, and only in the middle of the pack in usage rate, and did nothing dramatically better than league-average offensively.

Holiday shot the ball adequately from 3 (38.0 percent) but once again took an exceptionally small portion of his shots from behind the arc. He shot a very solid 40.9 percent from outside 10 feet, and if he can convert some of those 2s to 3s he'll have a lot more value.

Meanwhile, he also has to draw fouls and get to the basket -- two areas he really struggled last season. Holiday was 56th out of 70 point guards in free throw rate, which is unacceptable for a player with his size and quickness. Meanwhile, he only shot 53.6 percent at the rim.

So if he's not a great finisher, and he's not a great passer, and he's not a great shooter, then … well, what is he?

One thing he is, at least, is a solid defender. Holiday had an easier time navigating pick-and-roll defense last season, and otherwise was very good. He's big for the position, quick, likes to pressure the ball, and has good hands. Synergy rated him as one of the league's best point guards, and other data supported the idea that he was a net positive.

JASON RICHARDSON, SG

Hollinger's 2012-13 Projections

PTS
REB
AST
PER

15.2
4.9
2.5
13.0

Stats are per 40 minutes | Hollinger player card

Scouting report
+ High-jumping wing with great elevation on jumper. Weak off-dribble game.
+ Two-footed leaper who needs to stop and gather near basket. Good rebounder.
+ Subpar defensive player. Lacks lateral quickness. Would benefit from move to 3.

Analysis
Richardson's steady descent continued unabated, shooting just 36.8 percent on 3s and, even worse, losing his finishing skills. Richardson made only 44.2 percent inside the arc and had one of the lowest free throw rates in the league; included in that was an abysmal 28.6 percent mark on long 2s. Other than 3s, the two hallmarks of his game had been post-ups and easy transition baskets at the rim, but he declined dramatically on both last season.

Nothing else improved to offset it. Richardson had a career-low rebound rate and shot a career-low from the free throw line, although defensively he did a solid job by his recent standards. While he's a good leaper, Richardson does not move well laterally and generally struggles at this end. However, he played more at the 3 than in other seasons and this appeared to help him. He's pretty big for a 2 and can jump, so defending bigger players offsets some of his quickness deficit.

Also, Richardson remains an extreme low-mistake offensive player, sporting the fifth-lowest turnover ratio among shooting guards. Most of his shots are catch-and-shoot or catch-and-dunk; in fact he hardly ever dribbles. Given that formula, he can still be an impactful player when the shots are falling.

EVAN TURNER, SF

Hollinger's 2012-13 Projections

PTS
REB
AST
PER

14.4
8.4
4.4
13.1

Stats are per 40 minutes | Hollinger player card

Scouting report
+ Big wing who handles ball well. Average athlete but awesome rebounder for size.
+ Willing defender with good size, but average feet and hands. Doesn't make 3s.
+ Creates midrange shots but rarely gets to rim. Good midrange shooter.

Analysis
Turner took over a starting job last season and played heavy minutes for a team that was a game from the conference finals. As a result, a lot of people are under the mistaken impression that he's good. Offensively, however, he remains a huge negative capable of creating lots of low-percentage shots but few easy ones.

Look at Turner's shot chart and he doesn't seem bad -- he shot 39.4 percent from beyond 10 feet and 66.7 percent at the rim. That's good, right? Indeed, his two-point shooting percentage was above the league average for shooting guards.

But he was dead last in secondary percentage. Turner has one of the lowest free throw rates at his position and never makes 3s, an impossibly inefficient combination that put him fifth from the bottom in true shooting percentage. He's a good passer -- one who tends to make high-value assists -- but not a great one, and his forays inside the 3-point line have a high turnover cost.

So it all looks pretty good while it's happening, but he's actually quietly killing the offense.

The one thing Turner does well is defensive rebound, and I mean he does it phenomenally well. Turner's 22.2 defensive rebound rate not only led all shooting guards, it was quite likely the best of all-time by a guard. Position definitions can be hazy, but a basketball-reference.com search produced nobody in the same zip code -- Jason Kidd's 20.8 in 2006-07 was the best I could do. Turner's mark would have ranked in the top quarter of power forwards and bested a majority of the league's centers; Pau Gasol, Emeka Okafor, Roy Hibbert and Paul Millsap all had worse defensive rebound rates than Turner.

SPENCER HAWES, PF

Hollinger's 2012-13 Projections

PTS
REB
AST
PER

14.8
11.7
3.9
16.8

Stats are per 40 minutes | Hollinger player card

Scouting report
+ Skilled 7-footer who likes high post. Good passer and can shoot with range.
+ Solid rebounder. Has decent post game but rarely displays it. Shies from contact.
+ Has size to be good defender but needs more toughness and strength.

Analysis
Nobody's quite sure what to make of Hawes' season, which consisted of a glorious breakout in the opening weeks followed by a steady trail-off toward the Hawes everybody remembered. The cautiously optimistic take is that he's become a much better high-post operator, particularly as a passer, and that combined with his midrange game makes him something of a poor man's Brad Miller but with better defense.

The negative take is that his shooting marks were a fluke, he still never draws fouls, and if he was so good how come the Sixers practically fell over themselves to get him out of the game in the playoffs? Hawes shot 56.8 percent before the All-Star break, 44.3 percent after, and 46.3 percent in the playoffs.

Given that he's shot in the 46 percent range his entire career except for that brief outburst before the break, we should expect a regression this season. And that's unfortunate because he never draws fouls, so he needs a high field goal percentage or some 3s to offset that shortcoming. Otherwise, he's a middling offensive option at best.

However, his development as a playmaker was real and notable. Hawes ranked fourth among centers in assist ratio and second in pure point rating.

Defensively, Hawes was a bit of a weak link, something that was more apparent because Philly's other bigs were so good. Synergy Stats gave him decent grades, but opposing centers had an 18.3 player efficiency rating against him according to 82games.com, and the Sixers gave up 2.4 points per 100 possessions more with him on the court. While his rebounding and shot-blocking numbers were solid, his lack of physicality and middling mobility were a problem. The latter is likely to be more exposed if Philly's plan to start him at the 4 comes to fruition.

ANDREW BYNUM, C

Hollinger's 2012-13 Projections

PTS
REB
AST
PER

20.3
13.0
1.8
22.2

Stats are per 40 minutes | Hollinger player card

Scouting report
+ Huge post weapon who can establish deep position and score from short range.
+ Excellent shot-blocker. Won't rotate to perimeter but protects basket.
+ Good post defender. Capable passer but tends to hold ball. Very injury-prone.

Analysis
Bynum stayed healthy all season and broke out with a career-best season, making the first of what's likely to be several All-Star teams thanks to his dominant low-post game. The key for Bynum is getting shots at the rim; he took nearly five a game and converted a stellar 73.2 percent of them, plus he drew a high rate of fouls and most came in this area. He was mortal when pushed to 3-to-9 feet and forced to rely on short hook shots, converting 42.6 percent.

Lakers coach Mike Brown also gave Bynum's numbers a nudge by playing him with the second unit to start the second and fourth quarters; with no Kobe Bryant to monopolize the ball, it ensured lots of touches for Bynum. As a result, his 40-minute scoring rate improved by a whopping five points.

Like his teammate Pau Gasol, Bynum also benefited from an extremely low foul rate that allowed him stay on the court, as his rate of 1.93 whistles per 40 minutes was the least of any frontcourt player. While this sometimes was a negative -- he won't take a foul to prevent a layup, unless his team is down by 30 and J.J. Barea is steaming down the middle of the lane -- it allowed him to play over 35 minutes a game despite iffy stamina.

Better yet, he only missed six games, after missing an average of 31 the previous four seasons. The pounding of his huge frame on the knees will be a major story to watch going forward, as knee problems have caused all his absences.

Meanwhile, Bynum also contributed in other areas. He's an elite rebounder who ranked tenth among centers, and he protected the rim well, finishing in the top third among centers in blocks.

About the only negative, aside from his occasional fantasies of becoming a 3-point shooter, is that he holds the ball a lot in the post and brings the offense to a screeching halt. Making quicker moves and decisions, especially against double-teams, will only make him more potent on the block. So, too would eliminating the comfort dribble that he constantly feels the need to take. Nonetheless, he's arrived as the game's second-best center, and will be just 25 on opening day.

RESERVES

THADDEUS YOUNG, F

Hollinger's 2012-13 Projections

PTS
REB
AST
PER

18.8
7.3
1.8
18.7

Stats are per 40 minutes | Hollinger player card

Scouting report
+ Left-handed layup machine with speed in transition and nose for rim.
+ Left dominant but improved right hand. Likes to attack bigs on drives from wing.
+ Very undersized for 4. Great pick-and-roll defender but doesn't rebound.

Analysis
Young continues to be extremely effective within his peculiar role, and with the league trending toward smaller lineups he's only becoming more useful. While it still may be a stretch to start him full-time at the 4, at 6-8, 220, he's been such an effective two-way player that they may need to consider it.

Young is a great pick-and-roll defender with good hands and takes lots of charges, which offsets his lack of size and physicality against bigger 4s. His bigger shortcoming, actually, is that he doesn't rebound, ranking just 65th out of 70 power forwards and 69th on the defensive glass.

However, offensively he's a huge boost because he gets layups without turnovers. Young shot 68.7 percent at the rim and got four such attempts per game; overall he shot 50.7 percent and had the fourth-lowest turnover ratio at his position. He draws disappointingly few fouls (54th at his position in free throw rate) and never makes 3s, but overall was a major catalyst. The jumper, however, is still a work in progress; Young hit 36.6 percent from beyond ten feet and made one 3-pointer all season.

LAVOY ALLEN, PF

Hollinger's 2012-13 Projections

PTS
REB
AST
PER

11.1
10.4
2.3
12.7

Stats are per 40 minutes | Hollinger player card

Scouting report
+ Long, wiry-strong big man with good mid-range jumper. Good post defender.
+ Decent mobility on defense. Not a great rebounder or shot blocker.
+Good passer but not a creator. Never draws fouls. Can finish at rim.

Analysis
The second-to-last pick in the 2011 draft proved a great value for the Sixers, becoming a rotation player and their most effective big man in the conference semis against Boston. Defense will be his calling card -- he has the strength to push opponents out on the post and the length to challenge shots.

Allen's motor also ran hotter than many suspected out of college, as he had a solid rebound rate and competed, albeit with a high foul rate. For the season the Sixers gave up 6.6 points per 100 possessions less with him on the court, although his other data wasn't as strong.

Offensively Allen just shoots midrange jumpers. He took three-quarters of his shots away from the rim and earned a laughable 14 free throw attempts the entire season, but he shot well from everywhere -- 63.8 percent inside ten feet, 40.9 percent from outside. The problem, obviously, is the proportion of each, which led to one of the lower true shooting percentages at his position. But Allen is a good high-post passer and a passable offensive player overall; combined with his defense, that makes him a viable rotation player at either frontcourt slot.

DORELL WRIGHT, SF

Hollinger's 2012-13 Projections

PTS
REB
AST
PER

15.4
6.4
2.4
15.2

Stats are per 40 minutes | Hollinger player card

Scouting report
+ Long forward who can catch-and-shoot jump shots. Excellent elevation on J.
+ Very poor ball handler. Can't get to rim on his own. Runs floor well.
+ Length an asset on defense but effort inconsistent. Good rebounder.

Analysis
For a guy who was summarily dismissed from the Warriors' plans and given away over the summer, Wright has put together some awfully solid numbers. Last season he had a player efficiency rating of exactly 15.07 for a second straight season, shooting 36.0 percent on 3s and a stellar 68.4 percent at the rim. He missed nearly everything in between (31.6 percent between rim and 3-point line) and rarely draws fouls, but since more than half his shots were 3s he finished eighth at his position in secondary percentage.

Wright is a lousy ballhandler with a high, erratic dribble, but he knows it and rarely bounces it in traffic -- he had the fifth-lowest turnover ratio at his position as a result. He also ranked in the top third of small forwards in rebound rate.

Wright was miscast as the Warriors' perimeter stopper -- it sure as heck wasn't gonna be Monta Ellis -- and as a result took some lumps at the defensive end. Opposing small forwards had a 17.9 PER against him, according to 82games.com, and Golden State gave up 3.6 points per 100 possessions with him on the court. Subjectively, I don't think he's bad, but there's no question Golden State's defense improved with Brandon Rush or Richard Jefferson on the court in his place.

NICK YOUNG, SG

Hollinger's 2012-13 Projections

PTS
REB
AST
PER

19.5
3.1
1.4
12.5

Stats are per 40 minutes | Hollinger player card

Scouting report
+ Scoring guard who excels in catch-and-shoot. Can get jumper off over anyone.
+ Tall for a 2 and decent athlete, but an underachieving defender. Bad rebounder.
+ Has weak handle and rarely takes more than one dribble. Passes even less often.

Analysis
You can't score an emptier 20 than this guy. A neat summary of the Nick Young Experience is that he averaged better than a point every two minutes and still finished with a player efficiency rating well below the league average. Let's just say the non-scoring categories are a bit wanting. Out of 67 small forwards, Young was 66th in assist ratio, 66th in rebound rate, and 61st in pure point rating. Young's assist ratio was the worst of any player with a usage rate over 15.

Young doesn't get to the basket much, but he definitely can stroke it. He made 36.5 percent of his 3s and 44.6 percent of his 2s beyond 16 feet. However, he has a poor short-to-midrange game (26.3%) and averaged less than a field goal per game at the rim. As a result, his true shooting percentage was ordinary.

Defensively, Young has some ability, but his focus comes and goes and some of the bigger 3s can overpower him. He wasn't particularly bad, but his metrics were slightly negative across the board. Additionally, his inability to rebound remains baffling considering his leaping ability. Young had a worse rebound rate than Luke Ridnour, Derek Fisher, Chris Duhon and Nate Robinson, among others, which is just embarrassing.

KWAME BROWN, C

Hollinger's 2012-13 Projections

PTS
REB
AST
PER

N/A
N/A
N/A
N/A

Did not play 500 NBA minutes last season | Hollinger player card

Scouting report
+ Injury-prone big man with terrible hands and poor instincts at both ends.
+ Good pick-and-roll defender but subpar shot-blocker. Good rebounder.
+ Can make short turnarounds in post. Awful foul shooter. Poor ballhandler.

Analysis
Brown outdid even his own recent standards of injury-proneness by exiting after just nine games last season. In the past six seasons the most he's played in a season is 66 games, and he's averaged just 43. This adds another baffling layer to Philly's zest for acquiring him: Even if you think he's good, he's not going to be available for long.

But he's not good, either. At best he's a solid backup who is neutral defensively and a major drag offensively, and that's looking through rose-colored glasses. His best metric is his solid rebound rate, and his pick-and-roll defense is helpful. But he's a bad weakside defender and doesn't block shots, offsetting those plusses.

Offensively, he's a bad foul shooter, bad outside shooter, and struggles to score in the post or catch in the paint. He draws a lot of fouls and gets second shots, but otherwise he mostly takes shots that opponents happily conceded and clogs up the paint, and he doesn't always play hard.

ARNETT MOULTRIE, PF

Hollinger's 2012-13 Projections

PTS
REB
AST
PER

N/A
N/A
N/A
N/A

Did not play 500 NBA minutes last season | Hollinger player card

Scouting report
+ Long, quick big man who can jump. Slender build. Can hit mid-range jumper.
+ Must improve defense and focus. Poor ballhandler. Very good rebounder.

Analysis
Moultrie is a good athlete who can shoot, and those skills could make him a productive role player in the pros. He's a bit of a tweener between 4 and 5, with a limited handle but lacking great strength, but if he can knock down midrange jumps shots he may be able to play fairly regularly at the 4.

My Draft Rater wasn't crazy about him because he had a very low rate of blocks for a big man, because his ballhandling numbers were pretty bad, and because Mississippi State played an unusually weak schedule for a major conference school. But he's clearly an NBA athlete, and if he keeps his sometimes-idling motor engaged as a pro, he should prove useful in much the way Lavoy Allen was a year ago.

ROYAL IVEY, PG

Hollinger's 2012-13 Projections

PTS
REB
AST
PER

N/A
N/A
N/A
N/A

Did not play 500 NBA minutes last season | Hollinger player card

Scouting report
+ Defensive-minded combo guard with good lateral movement and intensity.
+ Decent midrange shooter but struggles from distance.
+ Below-average ball handler and decision-maker. A stopgap-only point guard.

Analysis
Ivey played more than expected, getting into 34 games as the Thunder struggled to find a backup point guard solution, but gave a pretty miserable performance that ultimately relegated him back to bench duty. Partly this was because he was trying to be a 3-point specialist, taking 53 of his 73 shots from downtown, but he's not cut out for that -- only 18 of them went in.

Alas, his other numbers were nothing to write home about either. He also appears to have lost some athleticism -- in 354 minutes he had one offensive rebound and zero blocked shots -- and his overall statistical production was heinously bad, yielding just a 4.52 PER.

Somehow, this performance lured Philadelphia into offering him a contract. While Ivey is a solid defender and a locker-room plus, he'll need to produce much better results to keep his foothold on a roster spot for long.


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So many players on Philly who

So many players on Philly who have potential to break out this season.

Kwame Brown isn't one of them.

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They could use another backup

They could use another backup pg, but thats a pretty good roster overall.

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Lol good read. I find it

Lol good read. I find it funny though that Kwame brown is so terrible but teams continue to throw big money at him. He's robbing the nba blind.

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Really interesting Roster.

Really interesting Roster. But I think the Sixers will miss Iggys Point-Forward role more than they may think of now. I really believe Jrue will have a stellar year and will prove that he can run a team. I still don't think there are enough players who can create the style of play which was the trademark of the sixers last year, a running team. With Bynum in now, they really have to reinvent their offense in the half court and set plays. It could work out very well if they find the right mix of inside/outside game but I'm a little concerned about their outside game.

Besides Nick Young there arent't many good (mean consistent) 3 point shooters and they could really be trapped with this aspect if opponents find out that they don't make their outside shots, slow down the tempo and let the Sixers work inside.

But as said before, there are a hand full of players who could really have an unexpected all star season but they really need some outside shooters. I think both Lou Williams and Iggy have been very underrated in this category and I don't think Wright and Thad Young will ever be consistend threats from downtown.

Really hope that Moultrie will grow into the rotation, I see some Chris Bosh in him.

If holiday misses more than 20 games this season, this team could really blow up and Bynum will leave after the season.

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They have a hell of a lot

They have a hell of a lot better of a chance of being a dark horse than they did with Iggy. Philly lucked out last season with Chicago losing Derrick Rose and it seems like they knew that, too. I don't know why they got rid of Brand though and decided to bring in Kwame Brown. But this could be Thaddeus' year to break out and maybe Allen too.

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This Year Doug Collins has to

This Year Doug Collins has to Prove how good a Coach he really is..This is an Odd Collection of Talent....

Who is the Leader on this team? Bynum nor Jason Richardson are true leaders..

Holiday had 1 of the worst point guard ratings in the league last season..And even though Bynum is the best addition the team has added since Iverson joined them in 1996...He does have a history of injuries.....But im also eager to see how he'll perform as the 1st option...They really are going to miss Iggy..

I expect them to be in the hunt for a 7th or 8th seed in the east....

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Hollinger just bashed Turner

Hollinger just bashed Turner on his player card and it's obvious he don't like him or understand that Turner is the biggest key to success for the Sixers this season. While acknowledging that Turner shoots above average at the rim and apast 10 feet for a 2guard who also says he kills the Sixers offense because he don't draw fouls or shoot 3's. Turner has the ability to hit 3's he just rarely takes them because it's not a high % shot for him YET.

He also claims Turner has average hands and feet and rarely get's to the rim. How can Turner put up historic rebounding numbers for a guard with average hands? And he's obviously never saw Turner operate in the post if he thinks he has average feet. And I'm just gonna leave the never getting to the rim part alone because Turner is one of the best ball handling wings in the entire league.

Turner is gonna average around 17ppg, 7rpg, and 4 apg in around 34 mpg this year and should have the ball in his hands more then any Sixer including Holiday. Turner was a huge reason for the Sixers success in the playoffs because he took it upon himself to make big plays at the end of close games and consistently made things happen.

The Sixers have a big, athletic, and explosive roster this year. It all hinges on Holiday, Turner and Bynum.

Collins has already stated the only 3 known starters are Holiday at PG, Turner at SF (filling Iggy's role), and Bynum at C. While Hawes may be the starting 4, Lavoy Allen can still take that role from him. And Jason Richardson may start at SG.

My starting lineup would be Turner at PG, Holiday at SG, D. Wright at SF, Lavoy Allen at PF, and Bynum at C.

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"Turner has the ability to

"Turner has the ability to hit 3's he just rarely takes them because it's not a high % shot for him YET."

That doesn't make much sense. So he has the ability to hit 3 yet shoots 22%? He either has the ability to shoot them or he doesn't. According to last season, he clearly doesn't. Hopefully he can bounce back though. He can help stretch the floor for Bynum and become a more versatile scorer.

"He also claims Turner has average hands and feet and rarely get's to the rim. How can Turner put up historic rebounding numbers for a guard with average hands? And he's obviously never saw Turner operate in the post if he thinks he has average feet. And I'm just gonna leave the never getting to the rim part alone because Turner is one of the best ball handling wings in the entire league. "

Hollinger: "Willing defender with good size, but average feet and hands. Doesn't make 3s"

Does that sound anything like ripping on his post game and his rebounding? When did good hands become the main attribute to good rebounding? It's called boxing out and getting position for a rebound before getting the ball. Clearly Hollinger was talking about Turner's defense. Anyone that mentions quick feet and hands associates it with defense. Unless somehow willing defender means rebounding and his post game...

And anyone can have good handles and not get to the rim. Clearly, Turner doesn't get to the rim either. He was good for <2 free throw attempts per game in the regular season. If you can't get to the rim and can't make threes, what good is it to shoot mostly contested long twos?

And you really think Collins is going to say "Alright screw Bynum and Holliday, Turner is our NUMBER ONE scoring option." I'm pretty sure he doesn't want to put the 76ers in the lottery and lose his job.

Hopefully Turner bounces back, but your criticisms of Hollinger's profile on Turner were outrageous and comical.

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Saying Turner has the ability

Saying Turner has the ability to hit 3's doesn't mean. he's a great 3pt. shooter. Wade can hit 3's but not a high % so he rarely takes them. Turner has a very good shooting touch however and will eventually become a decent 3 pt. shooter similarly to how Iggy made. himself into a decent 3 pt. shooter.

And you have to have good hand to become a great rebounder. You also have to uave good feet to play good defense and operate in the post. What Turner lacks in elite athleticism he makes up for with great hands and feet.
And Turner is very good at getting to the rim he was in fact better at getting to the rim off the dribble then any other Sixer last year hence why the ball was in his hands so often during crunch time in the playoffs.
And yes Turner will have the ball in his hands more then any other Sixer because he's the Sixers best facilitator right now and will play the same role on offense that Iggy played.

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I'm hoping he bounces back

I'm hoping he bounces back and has a good season. He was one of my favorite college basketball players and is so well-rounded, but he really struggled last year and now he has Bynum controlling the paint. How he'll play with Bynum compared to Iggy will be very interesting.

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I'm with you I'm just tryna

I'm with you I'm just tryna get people excited about Turner this year so when the M.I.P award bandwagon trolls through ill be driving. I'm really under the impression that Turner is going to have a huge breackout year. His game is so well rounded all you have to do is basically give him 30 plus mpg and the stats will come.

As quick as people wanna point out the next star they wanna point out the next bust and Turner has been easy pickins since being selected 2nd by a team that had no use for him and handled him with training wheels. 2 years later the wheeels are off tho and the Sixers have been remodelled around Bynum, Holiday and Turner.

After reading Hollinger talk about Paul George like he was the next Reggie Miller I was surprised at his Turner bashing. He starts off his profile by saying how Turner started and played big minutes on a team one gam from the ECF people think he's good......that's cold.

He also goes on to acknowledge Turner shoots above the league average for a guard on 2's but doesn't draw fouls or hit 3's and acts like this is insurmountable for a 23 year old guard to draw more fouls and extend his range.

Then he talks about his ability to create low % shots while never mentioning his pure ability to create shots he just got to choose his spots better.

And as far as Turner and Bynum the Rising Stars game Turner fed Cousins with an array of beautiful passes I expect him and Bynum to develop similar chemistry quick.

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