Time to trade Calderon
Over the past five games with Lowry injured Jose has averaged 13ppg 13apg 4rpg 1 spg and on 46%FGs and 57% from 3. Ive already daydreamed a couple trades that would really benefit the Raptors.
Lets face it the Raptors still do not have a good enough starting C to win in this league and it almost seems as if Bargnani is not only getting softer every game but his shot selection is also getting worse and worse. Dumping these guys for longterm talent and incentives is the best way to go even if we traded this years pick for Lowry.
Some situations I could see Calderon traded into.
DJ Augistin has not done the best job in Indiana as a replacement for Collison. With George Hill playing well but more of a streaky shooter combo gaurd there is defenitely a void at PG in Indiana that Calderon could fill. Lance Stephenson has recently emerged as a combo gaurd that can be productive as well but they have no true distributor which is one reason why they have one of the worst offences in the NBA not to mention Granger being injured.
Some sort of package including Gerald Green and Ian Mahinmi works out well for both teams.
Steve Nash isnt really the most reliable option as far as durability goes at PG in the league today and with Dantoni coaching some insurance is almost needes. Calderon playing for Dantoni could also end up being special longterm and we all know about the Calderon Gasol connection.
Jordan Hill and Robert Sacre are both getting very little run in LA and are players I would target with Calderon not to mention more young talent like Morris and Ebanks.
Yes, just what the Lakers need. Another over-the-hill point guard that doesn't play defense.
over the hill pg? what? i agree he has no def at all but really? this guy is not over the hill when he put up 21 17 and then 13 10 10 and an 18 asts game today.
How would this be an upgrade for the Lakers who are in win-now mode to go with a 31 year old that isn't better than their current PG?
Nash is better now, he'll be better next year and by the time he retires (I'm assuming two seasons), Calderon will already be 33, at the end of his career.
dude did you see what i said? they obviously wouldnt get calderon to start...they were already trying to trade for calderon in the summer as an upgrade for their backup pg....steve blake...this happened because calderon spoke up about wanting to be traded knowing lowry would take his minutes. he wanted to back up for a winning team esp for the lakers cuz gasol is there. i dont think its a good trade for the lakers though because of his poor defense like you said but if they are planning to stick with blake as a backup then calderon is def a better choice.
it would be a bad deal for the raps though because they arent going to get anything back with value.
I think the celtics should try to get them because they don't have a legit backup pg , and when rondo is out of the game the celtics have no one than can really run the team or create open shots for others and Calderon would be a great back up
Who would Boston give up in that scenerio riley?
Aren't we avoiding the obvious? Imagine if Miami got him, I know they'd probably have to give up Cole, but I think Calderon would really help initiate some offense. I know Chalmers is pretty good but he still needs help running an offense.
WOW i didnt even realize that...it would be amazing for the heat to help generate better offense with the second unit....this guy made amir johnson look like an above avg player for one season so playing with lewis, allen, haslem would be great...too bad he has a fairly large contract i believe...they should trash mike miller with cole and see if that works
The best time to trade a player is when their percieved value around the league is at its peak. Calderon is healthy and playing well. I'm not certain Calderon's value will continue to climb as we get closer to the trade deadline... because he is an UFA. Colangelo has a nasty habit of making questionable decisions and if he lets Calderon walk this summer while getting nothing in return, it will be just par for the course in his ridiculous management of this team since he arrived.
If these first games have taught us anything, its that Tor is not a playoff team. This is very sad (and predictable) since Colangelo has overpaid and bid against no one in virtually every one of his signings. In no particular order... Calderon, Fields, Bargs, DeRozan, Amir Johnson, Klieza... that folks is your "core" that Colangelo has put together. These are the players chosen by and paid to compete with the Lakers, Miami, Boston etc etc. Looking at those teams I'd prefer virtually every starter over Toronto's. Then there was the James Johnson trade with the Bulls for a 1st rounder only to trade him to the Kings 18 months later for a 2nd rounder. Colangelo has had quite sometime to build something special but he continually blows drafts, cap space and personel decisions without cause.
Going forward there is Ross (a better shooting, slightly less athletic DeRozan imo) and Jonas's development to look forward to but there is no sure thing with either of those 2 at this time. Ed Davis has some potential but not with the way Toronto wants to use him.
All of the above is Toronto's future and with no 1st rounder next year I'm not certain where all this improvement is going to come from.
Indiana - DJ Augustin is not working as that pass first Guard we had hoped.
Lakers have too many point guards, they need to get rid of a few not get any more. Right now Morris is young and playing well and you know Steve Nash is going to hold his own. Duhon and Blake should be moved. At least one of them should be moved and Duhon knows Mike D'Antoni's system better. Good bye Blake.
I agree that Indy could use a playmaker at the point guard spot. Who would they move to max the money though.
Utah have some decisions trying to get Jefferson, Milsap, Kanter and Favors all minutes.
Mo Williams isn't always healthy so they could use Calderon. Toronto could maybe package Calderon and Ed Davis to get one of the guys mentioned above...
Calderon and Ed Davis for Milsap i do that anyday
Agreed. Calderon is good enough to play backup PG just about anywhere. Bargani is kind of terrible and the rookie is just a rookie. If they could get another big man that would eat into Bargani's minutes for Calderon that would be great. Would Utah part with anyone? How about one of Houston's young PFs that they have down in the D-League? Houston is playing Toney Douglas as back up PG. I know you all will be shocked at this, but Toney Douglas is shooting 29% from the field. Basically he is doing a repeat of what he did at the start of last season for the Knicks. Calderon would be a nice improvement. But I doubt Houston will bring in a PG that might compete with Lin.
"If they could get another big man that would eat into Bargani's minutes for Calderon that would be great."
Agreed,... You know what might see like a good idea at the moment, if Toronto had drafted Drummond at 8 instead of taking Ross and letting Drummond slide to Detroit at 9.
If Toronto is really trying to develop a core and young players they need to stop trading their 1st rounders and be patient. Stop thinking playoffs and bite the bullet for a few seasons while they draft and develop.
Well if there was ever a time to sell high... Now is that time. Keep in mind his contract ends after this season... So if there are ANY teams that would need relief..........
I agree that his stock is pretty high right now, and if you are going to trade a guy you should do it at a point like this.
But right now Calderon is their most consistant player and apart from Derozan their best. Lowry is still out for a while likely. So unless they have already given up the season after 10 games they need all the Calderon they can get.
I don't agree that he has to be traded. A big expiring contract is as usefull to Toronto as any other team. If they think he might come back for less a lot less money next year I say keep him anyway.
Regardless, I think there will be more opportunity to unload his deal at the deadline with more interested parties. Toronto would know where they are and what they need and so will everyone else. No one is going to pick up that contract this early. It becomes much more valuable in itself closer to the deadline.
Toronto's window to the playoffs is still there in my opinion. But with this slow start it is definately in jeopardy. Trading Calderon right now with Lowry out would shut that window. So the Team that needs Calderon the most right now already has him.