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  • #39266
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    And Ron Artest with another blatantly dirty play… SMH

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  • #671479
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    GlenTaylorSucks
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    WTF…why was he called for BOTH THOSE FOULS?! He barely even touched Kobe, and clearly got all ball on both of them. I hate how the NBA babies its stars like Kobe

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  • #671482
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    Kobe moved his pivot foot three times in that play.  As I said on that other thread, 80-90% of NBA players travel.

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  • #671484
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    HotSnot
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    Lemmie guess Ron… that was an accident, it was in the heat of the moment, you couldn’t stop yourself from falling knee first onto Westbrook?

    The announcers are idiots! You think Westbrooks “over-reaction” with his arm knocked 6ft7 265 pound MWP to his knee…directly on top of of him? What a joke. Ron could have avoided that if he wanted too.

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  • #671486
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    llperez

    you guys are crazy. ron did nothing wrong. Westrbook hits him behind the leg and ron goes down. People fall when hit in the legs.

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  • #671487
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    6’7, 265lb people don’t fall in slow motion when they are touched behind the knee.  If it was a quick fall, it would make more sense in terms of a reaction but Artest fell in slow motion onto Russell right into this thigh to try and give him a charlie-horse.

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  • #671488
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    llperez

    he was already off balance leaning over russel leaning over the ball. Actually falling slowly and bouncing up immediately is exactly what someone would do if they were knocked off balance and were trying not to fall.

    edit: heres the video You can see westbrook takes ron’s leg out:

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  • #671489
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    llperez

    i will say kobe has gotten 2 favorable calls where harden blocked him clean on one shot and then thabo also blocked him on a drive and both were called fouls.

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  • #671491
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    My question is, why is Ramon Sessions so afraid to take those open three’s?

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  • #671502
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    That double-screen is killing Artest.  He can’t get around it because Perkins is too big and he can’t get back to Durant because he’s not fast enough.

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  • #671507
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    Kayjay
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    Is playing as good against any team at home that I’ve seen. Frustrating Bynum, contesting Kobe consistently. Taking Gasol out of his game. Just an excellent job all around. I’m pretty impressed.

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  • #671509
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    This is game-7 for the Lakers.  If they lose this game, they go down 0-3 and play a back-to-back.  Lakers could struggle in the 2nd game of a back-to-back, especially against this young Thunder team.

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  • #671510
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    llperez

    ft’s keeping the lakers in the game. But the lakers have to battle for everything and the thunder just come down and get open looks.

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  • #671511
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    Kayjay
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    The Lakers, or the Heat play, which one? Because everything is becoming a foul now. I have no clue what the hell is going on. 

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  • #671512
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    mgreener_34
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     lol no offense perez, you’re one of the better posters on this site, but reading your posts in these game threads the last couple of games have been hillarious.

    About the game though, I think we need to commend Westbrook for his ball security this series. He hasn’t turned the ball over more then once so far, and did a decent job in the Dallas serie as well. I attribute some of this to Durant becoming more ball dominant, and Harden playing the point when he’s in the game, but Westbrook has been incontrole most of the time. The Thunder are just scary when they don’t turn the ball over. 

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  • #671514
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    llperez

    point out whats hilarious. Give me one example.

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  • #671515
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    James Harden!

    Hits those free-throws, gives Durant a perfect fast-break pass, and hits a three after the steal!

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  • #671516
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    That had to be a foul on Bynum.  His entire body hit James Harden but it was called a block.

    Blake with a huge three!

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  • #671520
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    Blown call by the refs there.  Definitely a back-court, good thing Westbrook missed that three.  The controversy would have started.

    Followed by a terrible foul call on Harden.  What is that?  Three fouls on Harden when he touches Bryant in this game?

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  • #671522
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    llperez

    harden’s getting plenty of calls. He actually hooked blake and then shoved his rear end into him with blake getting called for a foul.

    Why does every laker game have to be about people complainging every call that goes for them?

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  • #671524
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    Kayjay
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    TOL be honest, It was a foul, Harden breathed on Kobe. 

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  • #671526
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    Another touch foul on Harden against Kobe.  That’s 4 already.

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  • #671535
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    BasketBalAllan
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    It is sad when a game would have had a different result if only the refs could see what actually happened on their foul calls and no calls throughout a game. 

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  • #671530
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    This game is gonna have a fantastic end!

    Clean steal by Artest/Gasol on Durant.  Let’s see if Artest hits these big free-throws.

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  • #671533
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    llperez

    damn, i thought that durant three was going in for sure. Lakers HAVE to win game 4 as well.

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  • #671541
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    sheltwon3
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    is it me or does Perkins still set illegal moving picks.   Also Kobe is fouled more than is called.  I think at some point because of the missed calls like Durant’s backcourt and harden flops after hooking Blake, they give Kobe a few baby calls.

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  • #671534
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    This was a great game from start to finish!  The Lakers needed this one badly.  If they would have lost, they’d be going into the 2nd game of a back-to-back while down 0-3!  

    One of the best games in these playoffs so far.

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  • #671538
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    Afactor4
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     ^amen brother, you, being a Kings fan, especially would know about that!

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  • #671542
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    sheltwon3
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    Lakers should be up 2-1 because they have outplayed OKC for 94 minutes two games is 96 minutes which sucks but if they win tomorrow than all should be well.  Also Bynum played terrible and Artest could not buy a bucket.  Also Barnes will not be back next season.

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  • #671537
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    mgreener_34
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     I like how Westbrook defered to Durant at the end of the game. He hit that one cluth shot with about a minute left because of it, and got a decent look to end the game. Would have liked to of seen Westbrook get that last three for the tie though 

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  • #671540
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    llperez

    yeah, the refs missed a lot of calls and won the game for the lakers. DO it again refs!!!!!

    Seriously, there was two obvious blwon calls that i remember for the lakers. Two of hardens were "questionable" but by defenition fouls, just ticky tack for all the contact. He did stick his elbow up in kobes chest for no apparent reason right in front of the ref on one call and the other one he had his arm around kobes waist while kobe was trying to get free. Not exactly robbery.  ALso did you guys see the montage of kobe shots throughout the game where he was fouled and they were uncalled that they showed with a few minutes left? I mean they showed a handful of fouls that went uncalled against kobe and harden got every single contact when he drove but all you guys talk about is the missed calls that went for the lakers. But its been that way since i’ve been watching the lakers so im used to it.

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  • #671545
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    BasketBalAllan
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    Noone is debating the validity of Harden’s drives because their was obvious contact, do you seriously think that if given the chance the announcers would not love a chance to talk about the Lakers getting shafted on some non-call? And though I would agree that two of Hardens foul calls were correct, Harden had five fouls. Last time I checked 5-2=3, over half of his foul calls were blatantly wrong and if I remember correctly the Lakers converted six point just on those calls alone.

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  • #671543
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    "is it me or does Perkins still set illegal moving picks."

    Yes, I guess he learned from Garnett.

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  • #671544
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    llperez

    and tonight was the perfect example of why im such a kobe fan. WIth under a minute left in a tight game, he missed two straights shots on a single possesion but his teammates got the offensive rebounds. He then demanded the ball back and took westbrook one on one and got him to jump in the air and he drew a foul and went to the ft line and drained them. Here this guy has struggled all night, just missed two straight shots on that same possesion and that comes after choking away the previous game, and he still says give me the damn ball this is on me.

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  • #671546
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    llperez

    No, only one was blatantly wrong, that was his first foul where he blocked kobe’s jumper clean. The very next posseion he came down and hit kobe on the wrist on a jumper. The replay showed the contact and you can see kobe’s arm move to the side on the contact and the ball airballed from 15 feet. I have no idea why he even argued it. The next foul was another correct call. Jordan hill got an offensive rebound and went to go back up and harden reached in and hit him on the arm. Again, replays clearly showed the contact, no argument on that one either. The fourth foul kobe was coimng up the sideline and harden who was jogging alongside him just stopped and stuck his forearm into kobe’s chest. It was the type of contact that is not normally called but the ref was right there and he sees harden put his elbow up to stop kobe and he called it even though it was minnimum contact. The last foul was also correct. He had his arm around kobe’s waist while kobe was posting up on the right elbow and as kobe tried to swing his arms to get free the refs called it. So that’s 1 blown call, and 4 correct calls albeit ticky tack. And as for harden getting contact on every drive, there was a charge/block they gave harden the benefit of the doubt on vs blake where blake didnt even do anything.

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  • #671547
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    417basketballfan
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    the league doesn’t want the lakers to go down 0-3. going into the game I knew the lakers would get more calls. Regardless of the teams playing the league never wants to see a sweep. They want to have as many games as possible so that they can make more money. To sweep a team in the playoffs I believe you have to be a hell of a lot better then them in the last couple of games in a sweep. Plus the lakers are a big market team with superstars and that also helps them get calls

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  • #671552
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    BasketBalAllan
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    He did not hit Kobe on the wrist on the replay, it was on the hand while he was still shooting, which means that it was a clean block because while shooting the hand is part of the ball. How can you even try and argue that Harden fouled Kobe on the way down the court with a single arm? Last time I checked you are allowed to touch another player with a single hand while you are getting back on D, the "contact" did not change Kobe’s momentum or direction in the slightest.

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  • #671553
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    llperez

    the ball was just leaving out of kobe’s hand on that jumper and he hit him on the hand which is considered the follow through and that is a foul. The hand is part of the ball only means when you have the ball in your hand. If you come across the hand right as the ball left, that is a foul. And yes you are allowed a hand on an opponent., but as i pointed out, he didnt use his hand. He stuck his entire forearm into ckobes chest and no that is not allowed when an opponent is facing you. ANd yes, kobe did slow down as he put his arm on up to return the favor as the ref was blwing the whistle.

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  • #671556
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    I hate when people make excuses, The Lakers beat The Thunder fair and square, there are always calls that can go either way, and yes the Lakers have gotten favorable calls in the past, but when I hear people complain about a player having 5 fouls in a game when he’s defending Kobe Bryant I have to laugh, I mean he’s Kobe Bryant, is he not going to get some calls???

    People made the same complaints about Garnett being called for a moving screen, he was &$#%#&@! moving and that’s an Offensive Foul in The NBA Rule Book…

    Stop making excuses for these guys please… 

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  • #671557
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    BasketBalAllan
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    I am pretty sure I remember Kobe having both hands on the ball at the time, and even the announcers watched the replay of that off the ball fould on Harden and said it was a bad call.

    Its almost like we were watching different replays…

    anyways good night.

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  • #671561
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    The other foul on Harden when he barely touched Bynum on a loose ball near the baseline bothered me more than the one when he blocked a shot.

    He didn’t really foul him when guarding him in the post.

    Just a minute or so in the game and you give the Lakers free throws for that come on.

    Meanwhile Artest runs over Westbrook getting over a screen and no call.

    All that and Durant still could’ve tied, not sure why teams don’t foul when up 3.

    I think Durant could’ve gotten closer but it happens after winning 6 in a row they were due ot lose a game esp. on the road.

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  • #671596
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    sheltwon3
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    It is crazy how people forget the calls that OKC gets.  OKC gets more calls than the Lakers.  I will say this in LA a lot of key calls went Lakers way but IN OKC, OKC got a lot of key calls their way

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  • #671619
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    IndianaBasketball
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    I didn’t get to watch the game, but by reading these comments it sounds like the Lakers only won because of the refs.

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  • #671735
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    Ahkasi Clay
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     Vegas Baby

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  • #671740
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    mgreener_34
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    The refs have made it known, Kobe is untouchable this series. Automatic foul for anyone who thinks about playing defense on him 

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  • #671743
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    IndianaBasketball
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    I’m a little surprised the Lakers are playing this energized.

    This is the best they’ve looked all series

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  • #671750
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    IndianaBasketball
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    That’s why you got to love Kobe right there…

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  • #671761
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    Kayjay
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    OMG KEVI DURANT, IS COLD BLOODED OHHHHH LORD……LEMME FAINT… 

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  • #671762
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    Afactor4
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     Oh my… he did it again.

    The Spurs have been the best team in the playoffs but I really think you gotta give it to Kevin Durant for the best player in the playoffs over Parker.

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  • #671763
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    IndianaBasketball
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    Kevin Durant may be the best player in the NBA.

    He still needs to work on some things, but he’d be my pick right now.

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  • #671765
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    IndianaBasketball
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    Russell Westbrook vs Tony Parker is going to be exciting the next series.

    They’re the two best point guards right now in my opinion.

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  • #671769
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    mgreener_34
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     The best part about this series has been watching OKC learn how to finish games. All of their players step it up when it matters, and they have three offensive weapons who want that shot. If this team can stay together then the NBA might have a new dynasty, because this team is really learning how to win. 

    Also, Kobe going 2-10 in the fourth? Kobe, step it up 

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