These ND.net Mocks ARE TERRIBLE! a REAL mock draft.
It Amazes me how they continue to have a site when the past 4 drafts they been off by like 6 picks!
Let me break it down to since i been around this draft stuff for too long. 99% sure this is how is will go.
1. Sac- Blake Griffin
2. Washington- Hasheem Thabeet
3. LA. Clips- Rubio (yes He is in the draft, for the last time)
4.OK City- Jordan Hill
6.Memphis- Greg Monroe
7.Golden State- James Harden
8.New York- B.J Mullens
9.Toronto- Gerald Henderson
10. Bucks- Tyreke Evans
11. New Jersey- Earl Clark
13.Charlotte- Chase Budinger
14. Phoenix- Ty Lawson
Reason for every pick (real short)
1. Best player in the draft
2. Move Andray to PF where he belongs and you now have a inside presence
3. Baron is gone or not doing enough, Camby and kaman health can hold it down, Rubio is the PG of the future.
4. pg.westbrook sg-Durant sf Green Pf Hill C Collison Enough said pg and sg and sf are taken why draft for those positions
5. Foye CAN"T PLAY POINT! Love and Jefferson are holding down the front court. If anything it is between jennings and Harden but Jennings is better and they finally move foye to sg
6. pg Conley sg. Mayo sf Rudy. All three are taken. Gasol is iffy but PF spot will solidified with MOnroe
7. Golden State needs everything but a SF
8. What better then a 7fter who can run for Mike, Duhon is doing a great job( it is the system not the player btw)
9.With bosh and Marion they need a someone who can create their own shot.
10. Sessions is a beast. Bogut and Charlie got the front court and Jefferson and Joe got the SF. Tyreke will create for himself and relieve sessions when needed.
11.Devin and Lopez are the future but a nice SF to add to a extremely tall team already will make them better
12. i was thinking lawson but Ford is fine for now. Aminu will do wonders for them with Granger scoring the load for them
13.D.J needs someone who can score for themselves. Wallace and Emeka do the dirty work. Big would be nice here but there is not a good enough prospect out there.
14. If they really wanna run Ty Lawson is 100% sure fire for this pick. perfect for a year under nash.
You don't like it then you don't know basketball.
Why would the Knicks reach for Mullens in the lotto when he'll be around later in the draft and they can trade for another pick. Tyreke Evans, James Harden, or if Monroe dropped would be the pick. Also you must not watch New York, duhon has a horrible second half and has been exposed because teams are shutting down the pick and roll. He is averaging almost 4 turnovers per game in the second half the season.
Maybe u forgot this but Mike has no big man...Eddy Curry? With BJ they have a running big man with huge star ability. Why would that trade down when they are getting exactly what they want....So they take Tyreke with this pick who makes no sense if they are going to go after lebron james....THINK ahead dude. With al harrington and BJ mullens u have the right size and ability.
We are not getting James. Even if we did how would Evans effect trying to get him?? Bj Mullens is a reach in the lotto. I don't care how much we need a big, you don't just draft Mullens because he is 7ft tall. You go best player available and then you go need. Since we already have the PF and SF spots, we can draft the best guard available then if we can get another pick in the draft we can go get another big or trade for one in the off season.
Those two players are going to be in the lotto. I dont think any squad would take Buddinger of Derozan after what Derozan showed in the Tourny. I think Brackins goes to Indiana and takes minutes from Troy Murphy. Other than those two your list makes alot of sense.
Are you kidding me...Brackins is this years Deandre Jordon.....Have u ever heard him on anything other then this site...The answer is no...Not a all american no awards...and he didn't do crap int he big 12. Better yet Jordan was better and would be better if he was taken by PHx instead of Lopez. And on the take of Demar. Yes he had a strong tourny but he only started to come on during this time and workouts will determine how high he goes... but there isn't even the offical list of who is in yet.
I actually don't go to websites to learn about NBA prospects. I WATCH them play, so yeah I have not only heard of Brackins I have watched him play several times (satelite TV is an amazing thing). I also have been doing this draft stuff to long (difference being I actually got paid for it) and upside is still the #1 seller for the buyers of the NBA and trust me Derozan is seen to have the most upside of any prospect in this draft. It doesnt matter that he didnt start doing anything until the tournament.........what matters is he did it period, that's all scouts and GMs wanted to see. As far as Brackins goes that's just my opinion, I could see Aminu going to Indiana as you said also. Individual workouts will be key since there is no more pre-draft camp in Orlando.
First off, BJ Mullins is not going to go as high as No. 8. He'll be lucky to crack the top ten. Very lucky. The Knicks do need height, but Mullins is not the person I can see Donnie Walsh picking. I can see Chase Budinger or Brandon Jennings if he should so happen to slip or the Knicks are high enough to draft him. I can see the Knicks going guard or adding another PF.
Haha, like dat...i say why not.
But with a 2nd pick, u draft thabeet when u got haywood and McGee at the C spot, haywood plays better last year, honorable come back, McGee have upside, should be better with arenas, if he plays more than 2 game in a row next year.
Smell nothing good with that guy, see him at the thunder or wolves(thunder almost get chandler, big AL needs 2 play PF and need a C, defensive minded if possible, he is ).
Rubio OK, hill and jennings in the bottom i'm ok, wolves need a PG, a C(jennings-mullens, thabeet-maynor ???)
Grizzlies clearly needs a big men, a PF as 1st choice, if monroe declares, they'll go at him if he 's available, many if...but they'll be 35MD under the luxury taxe !!!, so if(another one) they want to go at lee or charlie V and give 45-50MD on 5 years, they can....they should take the better prospect available, a combo, a solid back up behind the 3 starters at 1-2-3.
Harden to the warriors ???, nellie is crazy ok, he hates big mens ok... but men, they actually got 72 guards, 38 SF, 17 combos...and only ellis and CJ watson at the point(ouch), they will take the best PG available if they don't trade to get one.
Mullens to the knicks, ok he runs the floor, but he's far to be ready, bet on a SG, a PG maybe a combo...but u may be right who knows, they takes gallinari over gordon, bayless and my men randolph who was the perfect fit 4 d'antoni.
Raptors ok, a SG for sure, my order harden, DeRozan, henderson.
Bucks, u forgot or u don't know ???, that they are only 6MD under the luxury taxe...without the beast sessions, without charlie V and without their pick !!!, so make ur choice, they trade RJ or redd(draft night trade possible), they sign one of their FA or restricted FA, so the pick(s) could fill the void...today i bet on sessions who stays, charlie V left(the best will be RJ traded).
Nets ok, it's done, clark already got his new jersey...
Pacers, they definitly need a big, a PF with legit size if possible, sorry but brackins is here, the jason thompson rule with the 12th pick...
Bobcats...C-SF and PG are locks, they need a back up PF, u should get one at a lower price in the free agency, so a SG, henderson shows that he don't deserves to be a top 10 pick, but he deserves to play under larry brown, raja is in the final year of his contract, perfect team, perfect fit (not the case of budinger, 1st moves j-rich, carroll, morrison out, i understand the message).
Suns, i'm OK, true playmaker(saw the suns in the first 5 minutes of the title game, 21 pts, high octane, blow out), men if the kidd can pass the ball to amar'e, hill, j-rich and others LB, smell some fast breaks, some assists, some higlights....it's 2 high but should fit the warriors and knicks needs 2, last team 2 need him, the runners sixers(great back up 4 dedé miller, and more for the future maybe), if not available, a SF, a combo SF-PF is the other need, aminu is my 2nd pick there.
We'll see the order of the lottery, we'll see who declares for sure, it makes differences, if kings don't get the 1st pick, rubio is locked for sure.
but u want it or not, u must have a center in a nba roster !!!, u can't have only big booty's bigs, u can't have only 3...u need 4(5), u need a center, u need a 7 footer at least, resign jason collins if u want....and take jennings, maynor and collison with ur 3 picks.
what's the problem for an ugly team like the wolves to have thabeet playing with big AL or love, behind big Al and love, being the 3rd option, so constant rebounding, shot blocking ability, and filling the lack of size of the other bigs ???.
U want great defense with big al, love and foye at the 2, no problem, jennings with the 1st, make a bet on mullens with the second, letting him 2 years to develop.
Duhon is awful that is something that hasn't been watching the Knicks this year would say wow I can't believe I just read that I think im gonna puke. The Knicks need a PG and a Center badly we should get Monroe and Maynor how ever this is to be accomplished it needs to be done. Most likely taking Monroe with our Lottery Pick and trading for Maynor would be the best way to go and Wayne Ellington would be a great pick up too in Mike D system he could be the new Allan Houston.
Duhon is like many others(watson-udrih-telfair-blake), it's a back up that's all, he can plays 15 mins and fill an injury...rest of the time it hurt, it could hurt or u are a lotto team for ever.
1.Sacramento - Blake
2.Washington - Rubio - Most likely trade bait for salary cap flexibility
3.Clippers - Jordan Hill - Is Randolph really the future at PF?
4.Minnesota - Jennings - Individual workouts will be key for him - Possibly Wizards' pick with trade (they would probably take Harden or Monroe for them)
5.Memphis - Thabeet - A must, team has no interior defense
6.OKC - Harden - Either him or Monroe here
7.Golden State - Monroe - he looks like a Don Nelson type of player, if he continues to develop that range and handle (another Nowitzki in Nelson's eyes)?
8.New York - Earl Clark - I think he'll be a 4 in D'Antoni's system - is there a PG available that's worth this pick? Is Stephen Curry a D'Antoni type of player?
9.Toronto - Demar Derozan - Jamario Moon and Anthony Parker should never start for any successful team - Best player available
10.Milwaukee - Stephen Curry - His stock will rise once he's seen in workouts playing with teammates that are at the same level of competition he is, Is Redd finally going to be traded this offseason? I believe they'll keep Sessions too, but he doesn't have a consistent shot. Possibly Henderson or Tyreke here too.
11.New Jersey - Al-Farouq Aminu - New Jersey now has the longest frontcourt in the NBA, Aminu, Yi, Brook Lopez. Maybe Henderson or Reke here too.
12.Indiana - Craig Brackins - This is if he shows he has some quickness, Indiana doesn't need another 4 or 5 that's runs like a turtle. I see Mullens having a shot to go here too, but I don't think Larry wants another 5 that can't rebound.
13.Charlotte - Gerald Henderson - Is Raja Bell really the future at the 2? Possibly Mullens or Tyreke here too.
14.Phoenix - Jonny Flynn - They've finally got Nash's replacement, stock will go up a little with workouts. Once he gets out of those dreaded college zone defenses he will finally be able to have enough room to operate with ease.
What are the odds that Monroe comes out? How about Willie Warren and Cole Aldrich too? I think those three are the only players that aren't currently in or seriously contemplaing coming in that would be drafted in the top 14.
if mullens is a lotto pick i'm declaring for the draft. such a low level of production @ OSU that makes me think he's very far away from contributing on the nba level and i can definitely see a deandre jordan-esque slide with him. he's just taking advantage of the remaining hype that people had before his disappointing season ala jrue holiday, striking while the iron is still hot but from now until draft time + workouts they can definitely be exposed
Wow you must have never watch Craig Brackins play. He is nothing like DeAndre Jordan. He is a much more polished big man than him... he just plays for a bad Iowa State team, he is the real deal.
I enjoyed reading all of your meaningless speculation.
nbadraft.net, draftexpress and chad ford all have decent mocks...it's just a guessing game at this point, obviously, but all three do a decent job of estimating where players are likely to fall when all is said and done.
As far as I am concerned, nbadraft does the best job of sticking to their scouting reports and avoiding knee-jerk reactions in their mocks.
Rubio suh uh uh cks he is terrible saw him play in the olympics played like a little scared biotch he will get devoured in the nba
"Rubio suh uh uh cks he is terrible saw him play in the olympics played like a little scared biotch he will get devoured in the nba "
U saw what in the olymics ???, i saw a 17yo PG...listen what d-wade says, he knows.
The kid plays pro at 15yo, plays today at another level than college bball sorry.
The draft order isn't even set yet, so I don't know how you could make such a list now. And I'm pretty sure Greg Monroe is not being as highly regarded to be a top 10 pick like he was in January. And if I'm OK City, I'm hoping I get Thabeet cause they really need a center who'll play D, or anyone to play D for that matter. And come on, Collison isn't a true C, so he should be playing the 4.
OKC's pick all depends if they think Green can play PF, if he can, they'll draft Harden and move Durant to the 3, if they don't think he can, Durant will go to the 2, Green to the 3, and they'll draft Hill or Monroe cause I think they think Kristic can play center.
No One has him on in their lottery but nbadraft.net Chad Ford may suck but atleast he is right sometimes. And for all of you who say Knicks don't go big....THERE IS NO STAR GUARDS!! Jennings is taken and Rubio will be too. MIke will only draft point guards if they will be stars. MIke wants a big who can run. Mullens needed another year but the kid can Shoot. Run and Dunk......WHAT do you want more in Mikey D's System?! You are all fools who think they should draft a guard. Duhon is doing fine for what they have...he is not the future but he can hold it down for another year.
i am telling you if things some how turn out like the draft order my draft will be perfect...Brackins is no where in the lottery. Mullens is has star ability written all over him in such a weak big man class..Knicks are not looking for a productive player right away anyways.
And all of you are fools! FOOLS! if you think Hill will go over Hasheem....Seriously stop talking basketball RIGHT NOW if u think anyone will pass on 7'3 DPoY 150 blocks in a season over a 6 10 PF who can run.
Your still not getting the point. Duhon is a stop gap. One of the knicks weak positions is at the guard spot. The best talent available will be at the guard spot when the knicks pick. You don't reach for a player that you can get later in the draft. Mullens is not a lotto pick. Just becasue he had all this internet hype coming out of high school does not make him a star . When ever he got the court this year he was lost. Mike D system requires you to have a high iq, something BJ just does not have right now. Just being 7ft tall and able to run the floor does not get it done.
You pick the best guard for your system or best guard (best player) in general, then if you can trade for another late pick then you go for Mullens. Why would you reach for him if you know he could be had later in the draft.
And Ezmoney don't talk to me about what Mike D. wants in his system i been following since his days in PHX...And if you think Amare is a high basketball IQ your as dumb as they come. Phx never had a big with high basketball iq, all he wants is someone who can run the pick and roll, which BJ can do and can shoot from 15 in...Mullens is gifted jumper and that is what Amare is....Once again Mullens will not be there later on....and what are they going to trade for this pick? They can't dump players because no one can take on their players and just give up a draft pick... So that means the other team would have to give away and star player just so can let the knicks move up?? No not happening....Knicks will not take a guard....i am telling u that now.
Don't talk like i never watched the Suns play you idiot or i don't watch the knicks the team he is coaching. Mike D did not like Amare and the coaching staff was always frustrated with him. Ever read the book 7 seconds or less? Mullens will not be in the lotto. When has Bj shown that he was a NBA ready player this year. Please tell me that. Mullens is project big. Amare and Mullens are nothing alike. Amare would have dominated if he would have went to college, mullens when he got minutes look like a lost boy on the court and was getting outplayed by non-NBA talent.
What do you mean what are we going to trade. How many teams are in financial problems. We have slew of expiring contracts and late to mid round draft picks can be bought...ever heard of the portland trailblazers. I guarantee we will not pick Mullens.
won't pick Jennings. Foye isn't a piece to be built around. He's a 6th man for us, so we need as much talent as we can get and especially if Harden is available we'd be picking him. Jennings honestly isn't going to give us much more then Telfair can right now. And we especially need people that can play good perimeter defence with our slower front court.
Umm harden is not that great of a defender...Plus how is brandon not a good fit for them...He is 1000% better then Telfair....brandon can shoot is taller, plays extremely good defense when he needs to( coming from a person who has been watching him since his days with SCA) Jennings will be the #2 GUARD taken after rubio.
I dont see why any team would pick Mullens in the lottery, I just doesnt make sense he can run and jump but he has BUST labeled all over him
# 8 pick might be a little too high to pick him..but I thinkt that Curry would be a perfect fit for D'antoni, with his feel for the game and his shooting ability he would thrive in that offense.
"Knicks are not looking for a productive player right away anyways" WTF are you crazy they need impact players I haven't seen mullens play but I have seen Duhon bum it up for a long time now the atrocity that he has kept up in NY this year is disgraceful he needs to be traded for a first rounder. Jarret Jack was traded for Bayless last year so the same should be done with Duhon for im tired of saying it Eric Maynor agree or not I really don't care he's the best PG in College probably in the draft. As far as a big Monroe would be a good fit he can shoot, pass, rebound, and play defense. Curry is not a PG he's a undersized 2.
Come on guys!you guys all know that if larry bird can get an hold of Chase Budinger, he will!come on the guy traded for josh mcRoberts ahahaahah
BJ Mullens will drop, not because he doesn't have the talent, he just doesn't care about the game... think Rob Swift
It was most likely character concerns that dropped DeAndre Jordan, he might have gone back if he didn't have problems with Mark Turgeon and played less and less as the year went on, what does that say?
About the Knicks!They are going for a guard most likely.The only way they will go big is if they can get a nig time sleeper.Remember that Nate Robinson is gonna be gone leaving Duhon(a bench player) alone at the point.They will go for a good playmaker and therefore wont have to depend on Hughes. They will be able to get a good big men in the future free agency(someone like Bosh).
They need a playmaker because Lebron is not coming!!!
Ok City will not move Durant back to the 2 and Green to the 3 and draft a 4 to start. They started the year with Durant at 2 and Green at 3 and they sucked and the coach was fired. The first thing scotty brooks did when he took over was move durant and green to the 3 and 4 respectively and they have been a more competitive team since. They are looking for a backcourt mate for westbrook either a 1 (and move westbrook to the 2) or a 2 (and keep westbrook at the 1). If they do go big with a Hill or somebody, then that means they are satisfied with Sefalosa at the 2 and are looking to move Green to a 3/4 swing man off the bench. I just dont think there is a big in this draft other than griffin good enough to move Green out of the line up or make the thunder change up players positions.
this is what knicks big board should look like.
Tim49461 you are an absolute idiot. I watched every single one of his games. not his fault he LED the big 12 in scoring over BLAKE GRIFFIN wit 23 a game. 20 and 10 average 23 and 11 big 12. you are an absolute fool. people like you dont know a dam thing about basketball get a life.
Might be a first in History. Tim got 100percent.....only problem is 100 percent wrong
hah stanford you grave digger....
Speaking of terrible mock drafts, the draftexpress mock is pretty hilarious right now with Sullinger going 7th, Meyers Leonard falling to 16, and Tyshawn Taylor going before Marquis Teague.