Terrance Williams is the Oscar Robertson of the D-League, lol
What do you guys think his timeline is before he gets moved back up? He's lighting up down there, is another week or two too long against D-League competition or is this going to continue helping his game and character issues?
I don't think the Nets really care how good he plays, they care about his character. He has to take the NBA as a job and until he learns that I doubt he'll come up.
At least he's actually playing in the D-League, he could be slacking off and be angry about being treated this way, he's playing, maybe not 100% but 80% for sure. That shows some character
I don't think 80% is enough, I'm not sure why more organizations do this. These guys think there big shots but they need to listen to there coaches and try to keep improving, there's always things you need to learn. Williams just isn't mature enough yet to handle the NBA life, even if he can play in the NBA well.
terrence williams needs to get 30-35 mins a game with nets and if they dont give him that than the team wont be using him for the right reason. He is a 16 6 6 guy with 30-35 mins a game this year. Outlaw and whoever they have wont do as well as he will so why not just start harris morrow twill favors lopez since team aint going anywhere.
I don't care what his stats are, if he clashes with the coach and creates a bad atmosphere in the locker room it's not worth having him. Team chemistry and doing what the coach says are big parts of why teams win, talent isn't always the decider.
well is any1 on this team helping the team win i guess NOT. He is there best player and doesnt get the mins he really deserves. I dont know how avery put guys like outlaw to start over him first overpay a guy now you have to start him because 35 mill coming off your bench isnt good. Thats why they will be a lottery team again and have maybe the worst record in nba again. Some1 needs to step in as a leader there captains arent even good. Lopez busy reading comic books and harris has more fun on the bench injured than when he plays.
He starts Outlaw because Travis just signed that huge contract with them in the offseason...New Jersey did absolutley the right thing here with T WIll...He needs to sort out his character issues before he steps back on an NBA court anytime soon
Hahaha The Oscar Robertsonof the D League.
When I read he put up a triple double in his first performance I wasn't really surprised and the 13 assists he had in his first game must mean his new teammates love playing with him. But then I just saw he had a triple double in his second game too upping his scoring to 32 and still dishing out 12 more assists. So 2 games - 2 triple doubles. That is very impressive no matter who you are. Even tho we all know Terrence Williams is more like a D League Ringer then anything he don't belong there.
The best course for the Nets is to take Williams and his triple double D League average and trade him. The Nets play the slowest basketball in the league and get the fewest possessions because of it. For a player like T Will it is going to be very hard for him to make an impact in limited action during games.
Williams just doesn't fit Avery Johnsons system it's simple. Williams needs to go play for an uptempo team like the Warriors who could use his versatility off the bench or a team like Minny who could actually use him starting at 2 guard.
I am not a big Terrence Williams fans because he has bitten the hand that feeds him to many times but I am nonetheless happy and impressed with his D League play so far having a triple double in his first two games. He is playing with a chip on his shoulder and is looking like the Lebron of the D league right now because of it.
The Nets baffle me.
They were suppose to be high rollers in the offseason, but they ended up spending millions on Travis Outlaw, Anthony Morrow, and Jordan Farmar. Thats not even a consolation prize. They hired a completely fraud head coach who has been known for failing and choking and nothing more, I just dont get it. Prokorov was suppose to be the savior of this franchise, but hes been anything but that. They havent gotten any better. They need to package Favors with some pieces and get Melo or something. Make some kind of move.
And even if T Will was coming off the bench, this guy can play 25-30 minutes a game in the NBA. deal with character issues. Dont cry about them.
Avery Johnson is the main reason why TWill is in the d-league. Avey has a reputation to be very harsh on his players, but the tough love approach doesn't work on all players. Avery probably learned that from Popovich, but he doesn't command as much respect as Popovich, so his tough love approach may not work as well. Especially for TWill, who's not exactly a very coachable kid. I think TWill is pretty similar to Tyreke Evans. Tyreke is put in a situation where he's allowed to be the franchise savior and getting starting job and the minutes from day 1. While TWill is bitter that he is not in a similar situation.
He even voiced out his frustrations last year for not getting more opportunities and being jealous of the opportunities on another team (apparently he was targetting DeMar DeRozan who got a lot of minutes even as a rookie on the Raptors).
I don't see any chance that Avery Johnson would soften his stand to let TWill to have his ways, so either TWill would have to become more coachable and learn to listen to his coach, or he would have to get his play time on another team eventually.
He got the talent, but may have to take his talent elsewhere in order to make a name in the NBA.
If they're not gonna use his talents someone will, trade him
The way the nets have handled this situation is disgusting. Your a tanking team it is common knowledge that you want your young player to get PT and since they drafted him they havent given it to him. Think about it if you were in Terences shoes you would feel the same way being drafted in the first round and showing glimpes of all star talent and you still dont get anything in return. Then you look over to some of the people you get drafted with(Demar,Jrue) and you see them getting a chance and you arent. A few words of advice for T-Will Just enjoy the fact that your getting millions of dollars to play agianst inferior competition and when your contracts up get the f.uck out of that shi.thole of a city and come play for the Raptors.
they should just start harris morrow twill favors and lopez its not like the other line up they have in mind will get them any more wins.
The Nets are The Sixers are two teams that are in the same boat. Nets fans have to be just as disgusted as Sixer fans. Avery Johnson is a no nonsense coach and it's not getting them wins just hurting his young players. They wanna wait till after the All Star break to give Favors minutes because he's not ready...WTF??? He was averaging a double double before you took his minutes away.
Doug Collins is doing the same thing in Philly. Collins got some sort of Bromance going on with Iggy and it makes me sick to my stomach. Anybody who actually watches the Sixers play this year can tell you Evan Turner's struggles are almost all because of Iggy and Collins. As soon as Turner get's in rhythm he get;s taken out. You play him 19 minutes and he goes 5-7 with 11 points then after you take him out the Sixers blew a 15 point lead in the fourth, didn't put Turner back in, and to my delight lost the game by 5 after Iggy missed shot after shot down the stretch. I swear by the way Collins plays Iggy you would think he is Lebron James. Collins even went as far as starting Kapono over young to begin the season. Thats crazy. Thad Young is averaging 11.6 PPG and shooting an insane 57% from the field yet for some reason he only get's 24 minutes a game and instead people like Nocioni and Kapono take his minutes despite them not being in our future plans. Or they better not be. After Turner's performance against the Hawks I thought he was going to get more minutes against the Bobcats but instead during out route of the Bobcats Turner only got 10 minutes. WTF????????????that makes no sense and Turner looks like he is busting because of it but that couldn't be further from the truth he is playing good basketball
"they should just start harris morrow twill favors and lopez its not like the other line up they have in mind will get them any more wins."
Avery Johnson is trying to rid the Nets of the bad habits and losing culture that last year's tank job (and hope for free agents that were better than Outlaw, Morrow, and Farmar). Terrance Williams isn't good enough to show up late. If he wants to show up late, he can enjoy the five hour bus rides with the Springfield Armor. The Nets are still rebuilding and are still bad, so it is better to get their young players used to playing the right way now. Good NBA coaches know that with guaranteed contract the way to get the message through to players is to take away their playing time. If Player X doesn't want to play the kind of basketball that will get the team wins, he'll put in the likes of Johan Petro, Kris Humphries, Stephen Graham, Damion James, and Ben Uzoh. He can lose with those guys too.
I think they should let their young guys play and Avery is a decent coach but he is not a good coach to have when your team is young. Some coach are great at developing talent and some coaches hold talent back. Guess which one Avery is. It is hard for me to say these things against a fellow New Orleans native but I have to say it like it is. Part of the reason Dallas does not have a ring is Avery and the other half is the refs.
T-Will some how for iggy?
Yeah T Will and Favors for Iggy, I don't what that dude on my team plus Collins is just as bad as Avery with not playing young players. The only reason Jrue is starting is because he really don;t have much of a choice. That is why they traded Willie Green in the summer because they knew Collins would try to start him. Instead he starts Kapono and Nocioni over Young, Meeks, or Turner.
heres how it would work by salaries
Favors, T-will, murphy for Iggy and Songailla
hmm i am not sure if i would give Favors alone for Iggy..
plus there in the same division which doesn't help.
I don't think it proves anything about his character because even a player with bad character is gonna play hard int he Dleague since they are smart enough to know that it makes Zero sense to not play hard and it's less likely that they get called up any sooner if they dont play hard