Talk about an inexact science!
The Chicago Bulls are a team that has built through the draft in recent years. John Paxson has been praised mostly and at times jeered for his drafting prowess. Their nucleus is built around players such as Rose, Thomas, Hinrich, Deng, Noah, etc., all players that were drafted in recent years. This core is the team of the present and the hope of the future. A couple of years ago, the Bulls looked like a team on the rise that would be contending for NBA titles by now. The core group in reality is mediocre by NBA standards, winning 41 games last season and losing its leading scorer (Ben Gordon) through free agency. By looking at the drafts from 2001-Present it's amazing to think about what could have been. Most teams can make similar statements, but looking back at where the Bulls drafted in those years, and the players that were left on the board, only to have other teams grab them shortly after the Bulls passed.
2001 Bulls draft Eddy Curry at #4 instead of Jason Richardson, Joe Johnson or Richard Jefferson. With the 30th pick, they choose Trenton Hassel over Gilbert Arenas who went on the very next pick.
2002 Bulls pick Jay Williams over Amare Stoudemire. Probably the right thing to to at the time, but how unfortunate! They also drafted Roger Mason at #31 instead of Williams' Duke teammate Carlos Boozer.
2003 Second round picks Auston and Bonner could have been Steve Blake and Mo Williams or Kyle Korver.
2004 Luol Deng was chosen at #7 instead of Iguodala, Al Jefferson, Josh Smith and Jameer Nelson.
2006 They had 2nd pick in draft and walked away with Tyrus Thomas instead of Brandon Roy or Lamarcus Aldridge. At 13, they chose Thabo Sefolosha over Rondo, Ronnie Brewer and Kyle Lowry.
2007 Joakim Noah picked over Al Thornton at pick #9 and in the 2nd roundthey chose James OnCurry over Ramon Sessions.
2008 Derrick Rose looks solid. They finally got one right!
2009 Remains to be seen, but haven't talked to a single Bulls fan that was pleased with draft, especialy the 26th pick that should have been D. Blair.
Yes it is in inexact science, but one would sure think it would be easier to make the right choice than this history.
Of course this is right, but you can pull the hindsight card on pretty much every team. In the last decade, not every team has been perfect in the draft. Also, the players that the Bull's, or basically team, have passed on might not have been as good as they are now because of the system they are in, the opportunities, or the coaching. For example, who is to say Amare would have flourished in Chicago when his game fit the fast break offense of the Phoenix perfectly (or at least he did). There are way too many variables in the making of a player. The great players are great players in the league mostly because of their talent, but you cannot factor out where they ended up as a main component of their success.
I will say this though that is they were to trade Hinrich for a low post player they would be good for now. You should not keep too many duplicate players because there are only so much many and Hinrich is a starter. The Bulls have done alright but they have failed to add anything to this years team that they much needed. right now they are solid at point guard and small forward. They are alright at Center until Miller leave but Noah is starting to develop. Tyrus Thomas is a good player but in a system that does not work for him. He would be so sick on the Knicks or in Phoenix. Hinrich needs more pt for another team and Bulls should put some nice vets behind Rose. They also really need a low post threat. They are alright at shooting guard for now Salmons is alright and I think they add some young developing players.
Every team has let some talent slip through their hands but I will say this if Jay Williams does not get hurt, then a lot of thing would be different because Bulls would never have drafted Hirich and also they may not have been so bad that they would have gotten Rose even though they did move up to get him they may be a playoff team and not have that luck. There are too many what ifs but for the right now Bulls need to address needs and not worry about depth too much if you have issues that have been need for going on 3 years.
you cant really fault a guy for misses in the 2nd round, on average how many 2nd rounders a year make an allstar team-1?,2?, if u say u passed on this great talent well 30 other teams passed on him too so you cant really say u made the wrong choice
I generally agree with you though but John Paxson cant control whether one of his players is gonna get into a motorcycle wreck and end his career
20 something teams passed on rondo. amar'e went 9th right? meaning 8 other teams should have as well.
with hinrich, gordon, duhon, did the bulls necessarily need rose? no, they didn't need him. look how it turned out? In the 08 draft, a player like beasely or lopez would have fit the bulls' needs. they lacked backup sg/sf's that were worth it. they also lacked a real center that were worth it. they got what they needed through trading with sacramento, a tall veteran center who plays above average, and they got salmons..a hybrid sg/sf.
Jhong621 makes an interesting point. If players like amar'e, joe johnson, al jefferson ended up in chicago, would they really have been what they are now?
My bad Chicago has dealt with that man, I can not believe i forgot who they draft lol. My mind went blank. I do hope Johnson does well. They still need to move Hinrich and Tyrus thomas though.
Ya another thing, say Amare does have success in Chicago, that just means a higher draft pick the year after then they actually got. Just way too many variables looking at hindsight.
Arenas and Boozer going in the second was stupid for all the Gm that year. Sessions was not a talked about player. Also Rondo slipped because of what is going on now with him. He had red flags and cant shoot. Who knew he could run a team this well. Tony Parker was an unknown. Same with Manu. This dude got drafted and came like some odd years later. Some times you just have great luck. San Antonio gave up Scola and look at what he is doing and they need someone like him now. Some things can not be blamed. There has been some terrible Gms though. I would knock on what Minnesota did this year but in honesty it was a good move because they have a guy that a lot of people want. If he plays in Spain for two years that is even better. If they try to play both guys together they may not work out so well. That being said after thinking about it is slightly possible from a skills stand point but you have to always factor egos and comfortability as well. Flynn could have more Nate Robinson and Nelson in him where he is better scoring than actually running a team but after two year he may be a 16 pts and 8 assist guy and then you have Rubio who would mess that up and everyone will know you have to trade him. If they are smart they will trade him for a number one pick in next years draft that is packed with quality bigs and some nice young players.