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IMO Oden is overrated, he

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Oden is overrated, he will never be better then Durant. Durant is amazing, Amare is a beast but needs to try more and Rose is the future.

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As far as the hype oden was getting out of highschool, yes he is overrated. But centers can tend to take a while to develop. If he stays healthy, he could be a top 3 or 4 center in this league. Durant is better, but elite centers have more of an impact on the game usually then perimter scorers. I think Portland would take Durant if they could do it over again, but it is still too early to call Oden the next sam bowie.

I agree on Amare and Rose. I truly believe Rose has a chance to challenge Paul for best pg in the league in a few years. Amare will never be a defensive force, but his offense is elite and he should be a perennial all-star.

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Oden, yeah you better

Oden, yeah you better explained my opinion on him, I don't think he will ever be great and I never did but I think he will be solid.

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what theyl get out of Oden

what theyl get out of Oden is more 15-17pts 10-13rebs. i dont hell ever score nearly as much as Durant but hell be a good player.

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Oden

Oden still needs to develop. His rookie year basically showed that he wasn't ready for the NBA yet. Foul trouble is exactly what he needs to overcome. If he doesn't learn to do that, he won't be an elite player. I do agree though that its too early to call him a bust. I don't think he'll be a superstar level player like Olajuwon, Ewing, Robinson, Shaq, and now Dwight Howard, but he could be a good next tier center - not All-NBA, but part time All-Star. For that to happen though, he's got to develop over the next few years. On the other end of the spectrum, if his numbers don't improve, he could end up as an Olowokandi.

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Oden's rookie year

I just wanted to point out that in Greg Oden's rookie year, which by many was considered sub par, he averaged 7 rebounds per game. This in 21.5 minutes of play, the same amount Eddy Curry averaged in his career high season where he was logging 35.2 mpg. Now, I know Eddy Curry may not be the best guy to compare someone to in terms of not being a bust, plus the fact that Eddy Curry would only be able to average 9-10 rebounds if the ball had cream filling inside of it, but I found that kind of cool. I mean, Eddy Curry was considered to be a possible beast, and Oden obviously has much more of an ability to block shots and board than EC. Not to mention that Greg probably has better foot speed, a stronger work ethic and is not as close to as far behind as people say he is. When someone misses a season due to microfracture surgery, I still say it is their first year as they had little to no chance to improve as a basketball player. The guy worked on his upper body hard core, and he has been hurt a few times, like most big guys tend to be, but I do not think that means he is DeSagana Diop. He may not be Shaq, Ewing, Olajuwon or Robinson, but neither is any center in this league, even Dwight has a way to go with his broad shoulders, crazy speed/athleticism and 0 offensive game past that. Michael Jordan was seriously injured his second year in the league. He averaged 6 less points per game, and while he killed it in the play-offs against the Celts with that 63 game (though, they did lose that game, lol), people could say, "well, Michael might be hurt all the time." Dwyane Wade was even labeled as injury ridden and done by many doubters going into last season. I am optimistic when it comes to people with good attitudes and special attributes, and I am optimistic about Greg Oden because I feel he fits this category. I think you can count the players able to handle his strength on one hand. He boxed out Carlos Boozer like he was a rag doll. When you lead a team in offensive rebounding, and they are the number 1 offensive rebounding team in the league, do people say that you are a bust? Apparently, they do. Give him time, he will be just fine and he will be major for the Blazers down the line (now I will stop my mother goosery).

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Oden wont be great...This

Oden wont be great...This site compared him to Rusell...that was never gonna happen

Durant came in with more calmer expatations....

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35 ppg and losing the in the

35 ppg and losing the in the first round of the playoffs...like McGrady.

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We both know teams in the

We both know teams in the west were much stronger
And kobe lost in the first round for two season WOW...
But answer this question how many years did T-mac fall short in a watered down conference?
The guy can put up numbers i never said that but thats all he can do, he cant lead a team and he's NO KOBE

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Kobe could have led orlando out the first round

When kobe didnt make it out the first round he was in a much stronger western conference...
Before the pistons the east was a &$#%#&@!!n toss up anybody could have won

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You must be a big Kobe fan,

You must be a big Kobe fan, it's okay, that doesn't mean your right though.

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What are you guys

What are you guys experts???? I have seen McGrady play and I have seen him SLACK off on defense for most of his career...

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You can't compare Oden and

You can't compare Oden and Durant. They're two different players. Oden will never score points like Durant. Hell you don't see any centers in the league scoring the amount of points like Durant. You think Oden gets injured a lot, look at Bynum. He's been injured ever since he actually started playing games and no one said he's a bust. Bynum played like crap during the playoffs. Of course Laker fans wouldn't say their guys are busts thats for sure.

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You saw he gives up 30 every night, so obviously you haven't watched him.

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He is no Kobe, that is correct. But Kobe wasn't that much better if at all when T-mac was in his prime, Kobe continued to improve though and T-Mac got hurt.

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OOO ok sure.....

OOO ok sure.....

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let it go dude

let it go dude

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billyk

You are wrong, we both know it. Most everyone who has seen this topic knows it. Give up. You have no evidence at all.

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You are wrong, we both know it. Most everyone who has seen this topic knows it. Give up. You have no evidence at all.

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YUP YUP he is no kobe

Actually i did watch buddy
And I remember back in the day for like 4 seasons you could compare them but kobe always had more game...
But now its just ridiculous injuries or not

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Still no evidence of his

Still no evidence of his supposed horrid defense.

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Yeah, there were a couple years where you could compare Kobe and TMac, but Kobe always held a slight advantage in defense and a mental toughness edge, but the skills were close enough to make an argument. But now it's not close.

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