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  • #66356
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    rope
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     What would you do in his shoes?

    It is interesting that the NBA game has changed that much that it is debatable if a guy this productive has a place in the pros.

    His relative lack of height certainly doesn’t help his cause and his game is pretty old school.  These things aren’t changing a lot in a year.

    Would you stay in the draft if you were in his position?

    If he stays, where do you think he goes?

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1098148
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    Anton123
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    I don’t really see a practical point in staying for him, he has proven everything he could, was one of the best players in CBB and made a title run. Unless he absolutely loves college basketball or really wants a degree now, he should turn pro. He can always finish his degree later, he’ll have the money.

    I think he goes early second round.

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  • #1098149
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    Teams will definitely like him during the interview process, I see him being a Ben Wallace/Charles Oakley type player in the league.. He should be an early 2nd round guy but I wouldn’t be surprised if a contender takes him late in the first round.

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    • #1098169
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      Anton123
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      What do you mean by Ben Wallace type of player? It’s just that virtually all of Ben Wallace’s strengths are Swanigan’s weaknesses. Wallace was the best defensive player in the NBA and an absolute liability offensively, Swanigan out to the three point line, is a great passer, but can’t guard anybody and provides no help defense. Both are good rebounders though.

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      • #1098172
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        You’re definitely overstating Swanigan as a poor defender, I think hes a pretty decent PNR defender and rotates well he has a pretty high basketball IQ.. Hes a bit slow and flat footed but he’s definitely a capable defender Ive watched film of him understanding where to help the Defense.. youre being a bit dramatic on that part of his game.

        Like Wallace and Oakley, I see great intangibles in Swanigan as well as great leadership qualities that will make him a High-End Role player on the NBA level.. Hes a Gritty Blue Collared player like the two mentioned above.

          

         

         

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  • #1098158
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    Stop_basketball_nonsense
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     I actually think he could gain in coming back, imo there is a big possibility that coming back could solidify a first round, maybe around mid- late as oppose to late 1st/ early 2nd round this year. 

    My logic is obviously being a big is going to be held against him, specifically him being a sophomore & probably questions surrounding if his game will translate to the nba. You know specifically the typical, will he being to shoot the 3 consistently & if his height will negatively effect him scoring wise. The "can the traditional big play big minutes in the nba is imo hurting these guys. Yes, the spacing is not set up for setting up post scoring, more specifically giving these bigs time to work.

    Now the reason I truly feel coming back could help, about 6-8 guys give or take projected to enter the 2018 draft have commuted to this draft. Jackson, Mitchell, dozier, Simmons, anigbogu, Comanche, Evans, Dorsey, and maybe diallo, obviously some of these are debatable depending on what you specifically have heard, observed from their play, or believed. I feel like a few of these guys are not ready but it’s not my decision if you feel your done with school and would rather play professionally even if you go overseas. Still with an unusual excess of freshmen and soph that would be projected higher in 2018 draft there’s going to be spots open in that draft in terms of quality that I feel some other sophomores and junior will have to make up and Aswan if an could be that guy maybe pushing right the lottery.

     

     

     

     

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  • #1098162
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    HobbyOG
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     If he can get a first round gurantee then go. He has nothing else to prove. Also he’s had a tough life finacially, homless, living out of a car, etc. I would understand him going pro. 

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  • #1098171
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    SpartanGlory
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     He’s pretty underrated as an NBA prospect. Advanced rebounding and offensive skills make him very similar to Carlos Boozer in his younger years. I would probably take him somewhere in the 20’s. Absolutely no reason for him to stay either. He’s improved in year 2 and has done just about everything to prove he’s ready.

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  • #1098177
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    SmooveKRYPT
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    I don’t see him falling past Atlanta at 31. Portland and Utah with their multiple late 1st’s are also teams to watch for him.

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    nill650
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     he’s 6’8" with respectable 7’3" ws and a decent 9′ sr.

    I think he got a promise late 1st if he stays in. 

    Not sure another year in college helps his stock, but with the large # of bigs in this years 1st round, he would go higher in 2018 draft.

     

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  • #1098193
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    lakesideben
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     It would be great to see him go to an organization like the Spurs where he would have the best chance to learn how to succeed. 

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  • #1098203
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    OhCanada-
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     Swanigan is going to be a monster. I think RobbC let me kniw during a live NCAA feed that he was once over 300 pounds! For a guy to go from 300 pounds as a teen,  to 270 at the 2015 Hoop Summit,  to 250 at the combine is a testament to his work ethic. Purdue is a strong school for conditioning but its nothing compared to the professional assistance he will get in the NBA. For Caleb to improve his game some more he had to go pro and take the next step in his conditioning.

    If Swanigan can improve his athletisism and agility even slighty his upside becomes outstanding. Ive said it before hes like Sullinger coming out of Ohio St. although Sullinger conditioning and skill degressed while I think Swanigans will be maintained just by understanding his personality. 

     

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  • #1098204
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     Yeah I just checked and theres articles saying he was 6’2 360 in 8th grade. Dayumm thats a whole lotta Swan in the post! 

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  • #1098215
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     he reminds me of Brandon Bass honestly as a rebounder hustler who offers catch and shot spacing. as for where i think he will fall to, currently have him going to brooklyns second 1st round pick at 27. playing for a coach who preaches ball movement and next to a center who needs helps on crashing the boards sounds like the kind of spot he could can carve out a niche even in his rookie year.

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