Stern on the NBA's draft-entry rule
I had a quite unexpected, but fascinating, conversation with NBA commissioner David Stern Wednesday about the league’s draft-entry rule.
Stern had read the column I wrote last Sunday, saying the league should go back to the old rule, where anyone who was at least 18 and whose high school class had graduated, could enter the draft.
Stern disagreed, not only with my conclusion, but my reasoning. He said it’s not the NBA’s problem to do what’s best for college basketball, and that had nothing to do with the rule change (which requires a U.S. player to be one year removed from high school).
“That’s not the issue,’’ Stern said at a media availability before the Bobcats-Grizzlies game in Memphis. “The issue is for us to see them for another year (before making) very expensive judgments.
“If they go to college, that’s fine. If they play in the Development League, that’s fine. If they go to Europe, as Brandon Jennings did, that’s fine. This is a pure business decision, not a social policy.’’
Geoff Calkins, the columnist for the Memphis Commercial Appeal, followed up on that with one of the points I wrote: that the current system creates sham students who only have to remain eligible one semester to play in the NCAA tournament.
Stern said if that’s a “mockery’’ (Calkins’ word), then it’s not the NBA's mockery.
“That would make a mockery of what the schools do,’’ Stern said. “If a school (doesn’t) require a player to go to classes after January, that’s very much their problem, and not ours.’’
Standing ovation for Stern on this one. The many crooked and corrupt practices of the NCAA are not his problems no matter how much the foolish NCAA president wants to try. He has an obligation to the NBA product to make sure his teams have the opportunity to properly evaluate potential players against adults. I only wish he went further and said that college coaches don't even do as good of a job as D-League coaches at developing players.
I have been saying for years when ever someone brings up the impact on college that the nba can give a ish about college and the rule has absolutely nothing to do with college.
Hahaha I loved those comments. Stern don't give a ish about the NCAA and neither do I, I hate the NCAA. What they did to Kanter was just wrong.
how can stern say that? college prepares alot of players to be better pros...brandon roy was thinking about turning pro out of high school..becuz he lacks great athleticism he might've went in the 2nd round and went from team to team or maybe overseas..like gearld green did..but going to college helped roy mature and develope his game...if guys like eddy curry, darrius miles and lou williams had went they might have more complete games....
What was Eddy Curry going to learn from Pat Kennedy? What did any player who ever played for Pat Kennedy learn about basketball? Eddy Curry went to the NBA and became a 20-point per game scorer in the post before D'Antoni took over the Knicks - all without college coaching. Was Darius Miles going to get that same great Bill Self player development that Julian Wright got? Darius Miles was a respectable NBA player before his knees died. How about the great coaching Lou Williams would have gotten at Georgia? Do you want to make a list of all the players who benefited from the tutelage of Dennis Felton?
Whut did Cousins learn from going to Kentucky?
Coach Cal taught him that his place to be successful was playing down low..In high School Cousins was playing on the perimeter like a guard...But Cal demanded he stay in the post.. And he became a top 5 pick....Eddy Curry and Miles game could've been much better had they went to college....Even Lebron could've learn to play off the ball if he had went to college..
Yeah Eddy Curry had a nice post game..But he was a poor rebounder for a 7 footer...In college he would've learn how to position himself for rebounds..
And Miles was a great atlete,but he had a low basketball IQ....
If a guys in HS & is ready to go to the NBA then he should be able to. Do you think that Lebron needed a year in college Or guys like Kobe & Garnett who steped right in and played great. Plus the 1 & done is just hurting the program cause guy know they will only be there for 1 year & they wont go to class & get the program into trouble like with what happens with calipari's players.
And what about CJ Miles. I really think he should have gone to college for at least 2 years before entering the league. This would have helped him shake off some early jitters and he would have come to the NBA more polished than he did, and be able to contribute immediately thus allowing him to become a much better player than he is today. He is nice player but I think he could have been even better had he of gone to College.
BTPH, Players choose the coaches and the team they go to in College, not the Coach themselves. Yes, the coaches recruit them but ultimately they decide which college they want to go to. In other words the players decide which Coach can help them grow and become a better player. Now if a player chooses a coach that is bad and they are worse off because of it then that is the players fault because they didn't do enough research or ask enough question when they were being recruited. This is also depends on how much determination and effort a player is willing to put in to fine tuning his game. Actually I think that is even more important then the Coaching itself.
if it were only the lebrons, kobes, kg's entering their names this would have never been an issue.
I think players should have the right to go right from high school to the NBA. If the a player has the skills and wants to enter the draft why hold him back and make him waste a year going to college? All it does is hurt the player, and take away a spot (scholarship) for someone who really wants to go to college. I'm not a fan of the NCAA, and think it actually hurts the game of the guys who could jump from high school to the league. If the NCAA was a step ladder for the NBA, it would have same rules of the NBA, but no. They have to have the longer shot clock and the shorter three point line that actually hurts a lot of players in the long run.
David Stern told it just how it is its not about the players or the ncaa its about his league and the betterment of it by being able to see players play against real competition so his gms can evaluate it.
I happen to agree with the rule, Stern is not saying that the player should or should not go to college, nor is he debating the effectiveness of college versus the NBDL or overseas ballclub’s, he is simply saying that from a standpoint of the NBA as a business, they can bring in a better product and create less disappointment if the GM's and decision makers have more time to process their choices and have more material to review of how these players will matchup against competition that is not currently going through puberty.
"BTPH, Players choose the coaches and the team they go to in College, not the Coach themselves. Yes, the coaches recruit them but ultimately they decide which college they want to go to. In other words the players decide which Coach can help them grow and become a better player. Now if a player chooses a coach that is bad and they are worse off because of it then that is the players fault because they didn't do enough research or ask enough question when they were being recruited. This is also depends on how much determination and effort a player is willing to put in to fine tuning his game. Actually I think that is even more important then the Coaching itself."
I have a major problem with this assumption that people have that college coaching is somehow magically better than NBA coaching at developing players despite no evidence with which to back it up. Eddy Curry would not have been a better player had he went to DePaul (the school he committed to) and played for Pat Kennedy. That is how it would have played out, Pat Kennedy as teacher and mentor. He got better coaching. There is absolutely no evidence any college coach would have made him a better player than he was and is. Did Coach K teach Trajan Langdon how to dribble? Apparently not. How about J.J. Redick how to defend, was that Coach K? No, it is an ongoing, five years in the making project of Stan Van. There is a reason most college coaches can't hack it in the NBA while pro coach can take a step down.