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I was hoping you commented

I was hoping you commented since you're the only female I know of on the site. Great input.

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I didn't see in the clip

I didn't see in the clip above where he talks about a mini skirt or sexual assault. I thought he was talking about domestic abuse. Maybe i missed it

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An interesting thing that I don't think a lot of people realize is that there are a lot of couples that have violent relationships. When I say that I mean in the sense that both parties are violent/abusive towards each other. By no means does that make violence acceptable, but I think it is something that doesn't get discussed, just like you rarely ever see people discussing women that abuse men.

I have a friend that works at a domestic violence shelter. She tells me some of the craziest stories and how some of these husbands, boyfriends, etc treat the women. I have no doubt the majority of what she is hearing is true. The other part of that is that some of these same women try to put some of the other women in the shelter through the same stuff by bullying and being aggressive. She has told me in many of these same cases it later comes out that the women are doing a lot of the violent behavior to the men. It just ends up being a cycle and both parties taking turn dishing out the abuse.

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I really don't see anything

I really don't see anything wrong with what he said. Let me start by saying that men abusing women is bad on all levels. There is no place for it on this on planet. However, he is right, a woman must not provoke a man to abuse either. Why is it a double standard. A woman can abuse a man too.

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I've seen domestic violence

I've seen domestic violence from both angles and it's just sad. I have a friend who was with the same guy since high school. He abused her both physically and mentally. She'd never leave despite her family and friends telling her. She'd never call the police. He like completely destroyed her mind. She finally got tired of being beaten and left him years and years later, but is still getting therapy, etc to undo all of the damage that was done to her. They have a child together and recently this dude just showed up at her job after like a year of not being heard from. She stood up to him and called the police on him for the first time. Put a restraining order on him and is trying to get full custody of their child.

Now looking at it from the other angle. I also have a friend who is 6' 2" and damn near 240 lbs. His wife is 5' 10" about 160-170 lbs. Not only does she physically abuse him (even publicly), she abuses him emotionally and mentally by saying awful things and using their kids to control him. However, he deals with it because he feels ashamed for saying a woman is "abusing" him. I always tell him to leave in fear that one day he's going to retaliate. And as soon as he does, he's going to jail and nothing she has done will matter. One day she literally beat him in front of all of his friends and the dude just literally curled up in a ball and covered up. She hurt her hand hitting him and got even more mad at him for it smh. It was like the saddest thing I've ever seen.

Domestic violence is serious regardless of who's doing it.

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I think

if you have to tip-toe around your partner you are with the wrong person regardless of whether you're male or female. I don't care if Rice's fiancée hit him first, he's very capable of restraining her without hitting her. The suspension should have been more like 6 games IMO.

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If he were talking about a player not going to night clubs

or strip clubs nobody would be up in arms. So he can't say women or anybody for that matter should not provoke or purposely agitate someone, but a hard working person should have to not go to legal places because it might be something that could happen negative there.

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So Stephen A. Smith just got a stiffer punishment than Ray Rice!

I think the only thing to take from all this is...."Don't hit women if you're rich/famous because you're going to be suspended 2 games aka 2 weeks, and definitely never speak out about any thing relating to Women/Gays/Religion/Blacks/Jews...You will ridiculed and called a "sexist/facist/Yada Yada yada...

I have 3 daughters before anyone takes what I say as Male Protectionism

I'd straight up murder a Man or Woman if they hurt my children, but I will not act as if they live in some perfect world where every man is Prince Charming, I also will not allow them to grow up living in fear of me or any other Man/Woman in society...Everything is not Black and White though, a victim is a victim.

Ray Rice should have been suspended the entire season if smoking weed leads to a full season suspension, Roger Gooddell and The Ravens should be suspended as well, there should be backlash directed at the Institution that promotes violence behavior, I don't think it's shocking to see guys like Ray Rice, Ray Caruth and Aaron Hernandez in the position they find themselves in, The NFL promotes and endorses Violence and most of us ignore it...

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