[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 I’ve been hearing the discussion about what the MVP really mean. David Griffin of the Cleveland Cavaliers said that LeBron should be the MVP because he "carrries" the Cavs. I’m not going to go in on Griffin for basically calling himself out as not being able to put a team around LeBron, but the arguments that people use to support this debate as baseless and have little to no fact. I find it ridiculous how people try to use their opinion to tell who is more "valuable".

A lot of arguments people uise to discredit Steph Curry and make it seem like he’s not worthy of being the leagues MVP is that if you take Steph Curry off the Warriors and LeBron James off the Cavs, the Cavs would suffer more than the Warriors. And that if you switch both players, the Warriors will win more games. See, with those arguments it cannot be backed up with any fact and all it is a bunch of opinions about how each team will fare. You cannot make that argument because NOONE knows how each will do if one is off the team.

LeBron is a great player and is having a underrated season, but he do not deserve the MVP this season. I don’t really remember people trying to discredit the MVP’s LeBron won when he was in Miami when he won the MVP. It wasn’t any outrage that LeBron got it even though he had the best team in the league and a top 5 team w/o LeBron off the roster. Truth is that nobody actually knows how to measure "MOST VALUABLE" because it’s an opinionated topic.

 

 

 

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

 Curry had a historically great season, maybe the best ever by a perimeter player in the NBA. First player ever to score over 30 ppg while shooting 50-40-90, plus made over 400 3s (over 100 more than his own record) plus led the NBA in steals. And his team won 73 games. Switch curry with any other player in the league (including lebron) and I don’t think they come close to 73 wins. 

Lebron on the other hand had a slightly below average season for his standards and no doubt coasted for stretches. Some might think lebron is still the best overall player in the league, but there is absolutely no doubt curry deserved the NBA this season and it was not even close.

 

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

 Curry had a historically great season, maybe the best ever by a perimeter player in the NBA. First player ever to score over 30 ppg while shooting 50-40-90, plus made over 400 3s (over 100 more than his own record) plus led the NBA in steals. And his team won 73 games. Switch curry with any other player in the league (including lebron) and I don’t think they come close to 73 wins. 

Lebron on the other hand had a slightly below average season for his standards and no doubt coasted for stretches. Some might think lebron is still the best overall player in the league, but there is absolutely no doubt curry deserved the NBA this season and it was not even close.

 

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

 Curry had a historically great season, maybe the best ever by a perimeter player in the NBA. First player ever to score over 30 ppg while shooting 50-40-90, plus made over 400 3s (over 100 more than his own record) plus led the NBA in steals. And his team won 73 games. Switch curry with any other player in the league (including lebron) and I don’t think they come close to 73 wins. 

Lebron on the other hand had a slightly below average season for his standards and no doubt coasted for stretches. Some might think lebron is still the best overall player in the league, but there is absolutely no doubt curry deserved the NBA this season and it was not even close.

 

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

 Curry had a historically great season, maybe the best ever by a perimeter player in the NBA. First player ever to score over 30 ppg while shooting 50-40-90, plus made over 400 3s (over 100 more than his own record) plus led the NBA in steals. And his team won 73 games. Switch curry with any other player in the league (including lebron) and I don’t think they come close to 73 wins. 

Lebron on the other hand had a slightly below average season for his standards and no doubt coasted for stretches. Some might think lebron is still the best overall player in the league, but there is absolutely no doubt curry deserved the NBA this season and it was not even close.

 

[TWILL123Participant]

 Completely agree with the last paragraph. Don’t know why all the sudden people are freaking about the warriors being good without steph when Lebron’s heat still had Wade, Bosh, and Ray Allen (without him Lebron is 1-5 in the finals). On top of that, the MVP has been given out the same way ever since it’s existence and now for some reason people want to start trying to interpret the intrinsic value of each player to determine the award? I don’t really get it. Seems like nothing but media trying to create headlines and/or Lebron fans trying to take shots at Steph. 

[TWILL123Participant]

 Completely agree with the last paragraph. Don’t know why all the sudden people are freaking about the warriors being good without steph when Lebron’s heat still had Wade, Bosh, and Ray Allen (without him Lebron is 1-5 in the finals). On top of that, the MVP has been given out the same way ever since it’s existence and now for some reason people want to start trying to interpret the intrinsic value of each player to determine the award? I don’t really get it. Seems like nothing but media trying to create headlines and/or Lebron fans trying to take shots at Steph. 

[ChewyParticipant]

 people discredited years when Lebron DIDN’T win MVP. People said he was the best and that it was just voter fatigue.

I personally was, and still am, a huge hater of Nash winning back to back MVPs. He was a shooter and a facilitator. but damn he was awful on defense. I don’t think one way players should be MVP. And I really hated when they gave him a 2nd one back to back. That put Nash in a category of company that I don’t think he belongs in.

Steph on the other hand, I have no problem with his back to back MVPs. Sure last year could have gone to Harden. But it didn’t and this year was no question. What shocked me was when people started throwing out statistics about Curry’s defense. That apposing point guards only score such-and-such points per possession against him. Knowing that he is being effective defensively as well, I have zero questions about his back to back MVP trophies.

 

 

[ChewyParticipant]

 people discredited years when Lebron DIDN’T win MVP. People said he was the best and that it was just voter fatigue.

I personally was, and still am, a huge hater of Nash winning back to back MVPs. He was a shooter and a facilitator. but damn he was awful on defense. I don’t think one way players should be MVP. And I really hated when they gave him a 2nd one back to back. That put Nash in a category of company that I don’t think he belongs in.

Steph on the other hand, I have no problem with his back to back MVPs. Sure last year could have gone to Harden. But it didn’t and this year was no question. What shocked me was when people started throwing out statistics about Curry’s defense. That apposing point guards only score such-and-such points per possession against him. Knowing that he is being effective defensively as well, I have zero questions about his back to back MVP trophies.

 

 

[MachettiParticipant]

 People take LBJ for granted. Thing is he could win MVP honors every year. Unfortunately he sets the bar so high for himself. People look and say oh he averaged only 25 points 7 boards and 6 assist and think he’s declining truth is if you ever watch his games and key on him the entire game he does so much more than any other player in the league. He sets his teammates up for success he guards the other teams best player. I agree Steph should have won the MVP just due to the historically season they had, but it shouldnt have been  unanimous. When Steve Nash won his MVPs there were people complaining. We have to remember what MVP means doesn’t necessarily mean best stats but the player who was the most key to his teams winning. That’s why I like the all nba awards better if Lebron isn’t all NBA first team then I would complain.

[MachettiParticipant]

 People take LBJ for granted. Thing is he could win MVP honors every year. Unfortunately he sets the bar so high for himself. People look and say oh he averaged only 25 points 7 boards and 6 assist and think he’s declining truth is if you ever watch his games and key on him the entire game he does so much more than any other player in the league. He sets his teammates up for success he guards the other teams best player. I agree Steph should have won the MVP just due to the historically season they had, but it shouldnt have been  unanimous. When Steve Nash won his MVPs there were people complaining. We have to remember what MVP means doesn’t necessarily mean best stats but the player who was the most key to his teams winning. That’s why I like the all nba awards better if Lebron isn’t all NBA first team then I would complain.

[OaktownWarriorsParticipant]

So homeboy David Griffin is questioning Curry vote in being this season’s MVP….An award Curry won unanimous!!! That has never been done before in the league! Wait isn’t Griffin the same cry baby that wrote that “hate article” to LeBron back in the day? And then kissed LeBron’s ass when he came back? Anyone can believe what they wish, however right now, right now….Curry is the MVP, best player, league’s best, most valuable…period! And maybe next season LeBron will? I know David Griffin will still be a cry baby!

[tblazer_NZParticipant]

Lebron would have been unanimous too if some stupid NY voter didn’t spite him by voting for Carmelo.

[tblazer_NZParticipant]

Lebron would have been unanimous too if some stupid NY voter didn’t spite him by voting for Carmelo.

[OaktownWarriorsParticipant]

So homeboy David Griffin is questioning Curry vote in being this season’s MVP….An award Curry won unanimous!!! That has never been done before in the league! Wait isn’t Griffin the same cry baby that wrote that “hate article” to LeBron back in the day? And then kissed LeBron’s ass when he came back? Anyone can believe what they wish, however right now, right now….Curry is the MVP, best player, league’s best, most valuable…period! And maybe next season LeBron will? I know David Griffin will still be a cry baby!

[trapgamesolidParticipant]

 I’m not sure I understand the whole debate between Curry and Lebron this year. Curry and his team had an historic year. Lebron was really good this year, but not as great as Steph Curry. The debate about who’s more valuable to their team is subjective as there is no way to factualize this kind of debate and make it into a legitimate discussion.

The only issue I have is with the league, giving Curry the first unanimous MVP is league history. Now, don’t get me wrong, I have no issue whatsoever with Curry being the unanimous MVP this year but… Are you kidding me?? MJ wasn’t a unanimous MVP the years he dominated in the 90s? And Lebron in the 2000s? Or Wilt Chamberlain when he averaged 50 a game?

Ok.. worst case, let’s just says there were really great players around the time all the guys I mentioned above won their MVPs. Let’s just take the HISTORIC 72 win Bulls team in 95-96, where Jordan pretty much averaged 30pts, 7rbs,4assts, 2.2stls shooting 50/40/80 from the field and free throw line! Ok it’s not 50/45/90, but you mean to tell me that year Jordan wasn’t a unanimous decision??

Like I said, I don’t have a problem with Curry winning the unanimous MVP, but the fact that he’s the only one to ever do it is quite suspect. It puts him in a category of his own and to be quite honest, he’s not as Iconic as Jordan was in his prime.

 

 

 

 

[trapgamesolidParticipant]

 I’m not sure I understand the whole debate between Curry and Lebron this year. Curry and his team had an historic year. Lebron was really good this year, but not as great as Steph Curry. The debate about who’s more valuable to their team is subjective as there is no way to factualize this kind of debate and make it into a legitimate discussion.

The only issue I have is with the league, giving Curry the first unanimous MVP is league history. Now, don’t get me wrong, I have no issue whatsoever with Curry being the unanimous MVP this year but… Are you kidding me?? MJ wasn’t a unanimous MVP the years he dominated in the 90s? And Lebron in the 2000s? Or Wilt Chamberlain when he averaged 50 a game?

Ok.. worst case, let’s just says there were really great players around the time all the guys I mentioned above won their MVPs. Let’s just take the HISTORIC 72 win Bulls team in 95-96, where Jordan pretty much averaged 30pts, 7rbs,4assts, 2.2stls shooting 50/40/80 from the field and free throw line! Ok it’s not 50/45/90, but you mean to tell me that year Jordan wasn’t a unanimous decision??

Like I said, I don’t have a problem with Curry winning the unanimous MVP, but the fact that he’s the only one to ever do it is quite suspect. It puts him in a category of his own and to be quite honest, he’s not as Iconic as Jordan was in his prime.

 

 

 

 

[halfdecayedParticipant]

 People just get too caught up in the acronyme of MVP.. It should be something like most outstanding player, player of the year, whatever, but at the end of the day, it’s a popularity contest, and there is voter’s fatigue.. D-Rose did not deserve that MVP over Lebron, no way, Lebron should’ve had 5 straight MVPs to his resume.. Now if you want to argue Rose deserved it OVER Lebron, go ahead and make an argument without using, but he did so much for the Bulls, they would have been awful without me or things of the sort.

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

 The fact that curry won unamious mvp speaks to how well-liked he is by basically everybody more than anything. There are very few people in the media or basketball circles who have anything bad to say about him.

  Obviously, there should have been unamious MVPs before but there is usually the one writer who holds a grudge for some reason or another and refuses to vote for the guy that clearly deserved it. I wouldn’t read too much into it.

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

 The fact that curry won unamious mvp speaks to how well-liked he is by basically everybody more than anything. There are very few people in the media or basketball circles who have anything bad to say about him.

  Obviously, there should have been unamious MVPs before but there is usually the one writer who holds a grudge for some reason or another and refuses to vote for the guy that clearly deserved it. I wouldn’t read too much into it.

[ItsVictorOladipoParticipant]

Haha, no Derrick Rose in hindsight did not deserve MVP that year but almost every voter thought he did. He got 113 out of a possible 121 first place votes.

Don’t forget the importance most voters seem to place on being on a team with a top record. Almost every MVP in NBA history has come from a team which either had the best or second best record in the league, or the best record in their conference. There are only 6 exceptions to that, three of which happened in a five year span of league-wide mediocrity; Petit in ’56, McAdoo in ’75, Kareem in ’76, Moses Malone in ’79 and ’82, MJ in ’88 and Nash in 2006. 

The Bulls won 62 games to the Heat’s 58 games, Rose had played clutch ball all year long, and perhaps most importantly this was just after "The Decision" and Lebron was the #1 villain in the league. 

Crazy as it sounds Lebron didn’t even finish in second place that year, Dwight did. 

[ItsVictorOladipoParticipant]

Haha, no Derrick Rose in hindsight did not deserve MVP that year but almost every voter thought he did. He got 113 out of a possible 121 first place votes.

Don’t forget the importance most voters seem to place on being on a team with a top record. Almost every MVP in NBA history has come from a team which either had the best or second best record in the league, or the best record in their conference. There are only 6 exceptions to that, three of which happened in a five year span of league-wide mediocrity; Petit in ’56, McAdoo in ’75, Kareem in ’76, Moses Malone in ’79 and ’82, MJ in ’88 and Nash in 2006. 

The Bulls won 62 games to the Heat’s 58 games, Rose had played clutch ball all year long, and perhaps most importantly this was just after "The Decision" and Lebron was the #1 villain in the league. 

Crazy as it sounds Lebron didn’t even finish in second place that year, Dwight did. 

[halfdecayedParticipant]

 People just get too caught up in the acronyme of MVP.. It should be something like most outstanding player, player of the year, whatever, but at the end of the day, it’s a popularity contest, and there is voter’s fatigue.. D-Rose did not deserve that MVP over Lebron, no way, Lebron should’ve had 5 straight MVPs to his resume.. Now if you want to argue Rose deserved it OVER Lebron, go ahead and make an argument without using, but he did so much for the Bulls, they would have been awful without me or things of the sort.

[MatosParticipant]

 Whether or not Lebron is better all around is irrelevant. I’ve been a fan of Lebron since his HS days and remember following him on this very site. But Curry’s season could not have been capped without him winning the MVP award. All the broken records. Regardless of how good the Warriors are, Curry is by far the best player on that team, who statistically (73-9) did something no other team has EVER accomplished. Hoping Lebron and the Cavs can get the championship this year because ultimately, thats what they all play for.

[MatosParticipant]

 Whether or not Lebron is better all around is irrelevant. I’ve been a fan of Lebron since his HS days and remember following him on this very site. But Curry’s season could not have been capped without him winning the MVP award. All the broken records. Regardless of how good the Warriors are, Curry is by far the best player on that team, who statistically (73-9) did something no other team has EVER accomplished. Hoping Lebron and the Cavs can get the championship this year because ultimately, thats what they all play for.

[mamadouParticipant]

The debate is legit.

And we should ask the lakers fans about it, MVP vs best player, they had their experiences in 12 years.

You ain’t always both of them, last year, i think Curry was the best player, Harden was the MVP(Curry was MVP and harden voted best player LOL).

I know the impact of nash and lebron on their teams results, there is no case, ever.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[mamadouParticipant]

The debate is legit.

And we should ask the lakers fans about it, MVP vs best player, they had their experiences in 12 years.

You ain’t always both of them, last year, i think Curry was the best player, Harden was the MVP(Curry was MVP and harden voted best player LOL).

I know the impact of nash and lebron on their teams results, there is no case, ever.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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