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Start, Trade or Bench em!

You are a General manager. You have to Start 2 for your backcourt, Trade 1 away and Keep 1 as a 6th man. What would your team look? The 12 guard prospects.

Dennis Schroeder

Reggie Jackson

D'Angelo Russell

Avery Bradley

Victor Olidipo

Nicholaus Batum

Marcus Smart

Malcom Brogdon

Zach Lavine

Elfrid Payton

Terry Rozier

Khris Middleton

My backcourt

D'Angelo Russel and Zack Lavine- Young, Streaky, Athletic Shooters that can Both play off each other and Play PG.

6th man

Elfrid Payton. More of a traditional Pg. Can allow Zach or Russel play off the ball while keeping everybody involve

Trading Block

Nicholas Batum. Versatile. Can do a little bit of everything untill I Find a deal I like.


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I would take a starting

I would take a starting backcourt of Zach Lavine and Avery Bradley. Lavine gives you an offensive minded scoring guard that can facilitate as well pretty efficiently having the ability to play both guard spots and Avery Bradley gives you the defensive minded guard that can guard both positions.

6th man is Victor Oladipo who is also capable of playing both guard positions. He is a capable two way player even though he is not great on either end giving you versatility off the bench.

Trade chip is the veteran Nicolas Batum who can play point wing position and be very valuable to a veteran contending team. He is a good defender and capable scorer who I would want to trade as he is on the decline while I can still get value for him.

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Lavine is more of a two guard

Lavine is more of a two guard to me, and Bradley is too small as a starting two-guard. I love his defense and shooting but his size worries me, because of that I'd rather use him as a backup or 6th man, maybe even a role player.

Oladipo is not capable of playing the point. He is a two guard who can defend and needs to learn to shoot. Hopefully Indy can teach him that. He is a two-way player, but you just said he is not great on either end. Isn't that a little contradicting?

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That's different. I think a

That's different. I think a Olidipo and Bradley backcourt would wreak havoc on defense.

Olidipo may be the best Playmaker out of the 3. But all 3 are interchangeable and can at least bring the ball up court and score for themselves.

Batum will Definetely help bring added ball movement to the squad (untill traded) the only weakness I see to a extent. On ball defense, Athleticism and Shooting Look pretty good.

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Yeah I see what you mean

Yeah I see what you mean about Oladipo being the best playmaker out of Lavine, Bradley and himself. But I haven't seen him play the point enough. He played the two in Orlando, as well as OKC. That's been his career, just the two guard. So I'm not convinced he play point yet. Just because you can playmake doesn't mean you're a point guard. I need him to prove me that he can play point. Yet Indy won't play him at point either. Collison is the starting point guard while Oladipo will play alongside him at the two.

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SwatLake it is postionless

SwatLake it is postionless basketball as they like to call it nowadays. None of the 3 is a true PG, but they are all combo guards that could play with each other.

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I think Olidipo will still

I think Olidipo will still have his fair share at PG even with Collison. Although Collison isn't the best for Olidipo it's much better than Westbrook and Payton. i expect him to be back around 4-6.5 ast per game

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I would definitely put Batum

I would definitely put Batum on my trade block as well. He is versatile, can do a little bit of everything, but I think he is more of a SF instead of a 2 guard. I honestly don't know why Charlotte uses him as a 2 guard. To me Batum is a poor man's Hayward.

I like to have my starting two guards have some size, who can shoot well and their defense isn't too shabby. So out of that list you gave me, Lavine, Russell, Oladipo, Brogdon, and Middleton come to mind. I Lavine's size and shooting ability, but his defense and injury history are what scares me, so I think I'll stay away from him. Russell is nice, but his locker room presense might be too much for me. I'd have to see what happens in Brooklyn. If he starts at the 2 beside Lin and keeps locker room issues to a minumum then that's great. But right now, I think I'll take him off until I know more about his locker room presence and where Brooklyn plans on using him. Oladipo has great defense, but his horrible shot selection in OKC is what scares me. I'd much rather have Orlando Oladipo than OKC Oladipo. But I'd be getting OKC Oladipo. Let's see if Indy can get him back to his Orlando days, back to his college days. Because of that I don't want him either. Brogdon is almost perfect. But he's very young and he might be more of a big PG than a two-guard. I'd have to see where the Bucks plan on using him. Do they use him as a big PG or a two-guard. My instinct tells me big PG, because he's really all they have besides Dellavedova and we know how that experiment failed.

That leaves me with Middleton. I love his shooting, I don't think his defense is too shabby either since he comes from the mean and green Bucks. He's still young, only 25, and 6'8 and 234lbs. So he's pretty big for a two-guard. And yes the two is his position. So I'm choosing him to start.

For my point guard I'm more of the traditional sense. They need to be the main passer's. Their defense needs to be good. I don't care if they can't shoot, but a nice shooter wouldn't be too bad either. I'll let my shooting coach fix his shot if nec. But Middleton is such a good shooter that I'm not too worried if the PG isn't that good of a shooter. But if he can shoot that's great too.

So Shroeder, Jackson, Smart, Rozier, and Payton come to mind. I like Shroeder's speed. his shot isn't horrible, but he doesn't strike me as a passing genious, so I think I'll leave him out. Actually I just checked his stats and he's the same age and Payton, yet smaller, and averages about the same in assists as Payton, so maybe I shouldn't take him out. Jackson is about the same as Shroeder but a poor man's version of him. For that I think he's more of a backup PG, maybe a 6th man. I like Smart's size, great rebounder and defender, and not bad athletically. But his shot selection and his passing scares me. He kind of has tunnel vision too me. His shot selection is horrible. So I'm saying no to him too. Rozier is a project, but he's excelling greatly. He's not a bad passer, his D is great. His shooting isn't horrible either. But I don't know if he's ready for a starting role yet. So if we could have a project guard than I'd definitely take him but since we can't I'll say no.

That leaves me with Payton. His defense, rebounding, passing are great. I don't like his shooting but I know if you surroung him with shooters than you are ok. 6'4, 185 lbs so he's not too small either and only 23 So the same age as Rozier, but bigger and more developed since he'd be coming from Orlando with only 3 years in the league. I'm taking Payton over Shroeder because of his size. I'm worried that Shroeder's lack of size may give him a little tunnel vision in the future.

I'll use Shroeder as a 6th man. His shooting will rub off on Payton, He's not a bad passer either so he can get second unit started too! He's not a bad defender, and very quick.

So my guard team is this: Payton and Middleton with Shroeder as a 6th man and Batum as a trade piece. Give me a forward who can shoot and play D and I'm happy.

I'm interested to see if you'll follow this up with a forward post and a Center post. I'm curious to see who I could use as my rim protector.

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Good thought and reasoning.

Good thought and reasoning. Defintely a Versatile backcourt. I was gonna use the same concept of High level starters/ Bordeline all star players w/o being selected for a All star game and apply it to the western conference guards.

Much deeper. Mike Conley, Cj Mccollum, Devin Booker, Ricky Rubio, George Hill all come to mind

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None of these guys would make

None of these guys would make me think, "Oh, I've got to have him!" So I'm going to start by choosing the one I would trade, which would be the one I could get the most back for. Oladipo was basically just traded for Paul George -- I know the Pacers' backs were to the wall -- so I'll trade him.

Next, I want Khris Middleton. The year before this last one, when he was hurt, advanced stats suggested that he is an elite player. No one else on this list can say that.

I also want guys who've shown they can play well in the playoffs, when the competition is toughest and everyone's givng top effort. For that, Avery Bradley stands out on this list.

So if I have a Bradley-Middleton backcourt, now I need more of a distributor, although Avery has played some PG in the past. I think I'll go with Schroeder. He's pretty good right now -- he was the second-best player on a playoff team last year -- and might still get better. Yes, Russell or Smart or Brodgon or LaVine might end up better eventually, but I'm comfortable with Schroeder.

It doesn't matter much whether Bradley or Middleton start or come off the bench. I'll give Bradley the starting nod just because he's coming off the healthier season.

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Start Shroeder instead of Bradley. Bradley at 6th man

If you start Shroeder instead of Bradley and use Bradley as your 6th man than I like it. I don't think your starting lineup of guards right now is that good. You just have shooting and defense. But whose going to get those shooters the ball? That's why you need Shroeder to start. Now you have the shooting and the passing, and the D and he's quick.

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Sorry, I wasn't clear.

Sorry, I wasn't clear. Schroeder is the starting PG. I meant that Bradley and Middleton are interchangable as starter/6th man.

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Okay that's better. Thanks

Okay that's better. Thanks for the clarification.

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Start Schroeder and

Start Schroeder and Middleton. Both guys compliment each other well.

Bench Brogdon. He can play with both Dennis and Khris.

Trade Russell. Still on a rookie deal and is someone I can get a lot of trade value.

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Start Avery Bradley and Nic

Start Avery Bradley and Nic Batum

6th Man Victor Oladipo

Trade Terry Rozier

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