Um I've tried really hard to ignore what Kahn has been doing (I'm being vague for obvious reasons), but Wesley Johnson leaving town and the Wolves getting back Brad Miller (his contract anyway) and chasing Kirilenko certainly adheres to what they have been doing. It's getting to the point where it's getting creepy (once again I haven't stated what 'IT' is but I think most can figure it out).
I told yall they are going to be the first team to start 5 white guys in 18 years
timberwolves, they arent racist. Pekovic and rubio are european and white. While love and budinger are american and white. They come from totally different backrounds, so no problem. ALso 98% of america doesnt notice race or care about race and those who do are ignorent. I dont think people really care about the color of skin. The only thing that matters is can you win, and the timberwolves look good so far.
Well I know one person who got their season tickets
that this post got 50+ thumbs up.
That would be awesome.
I think Brad Miller retired. It was a big emotional deal for him. I personally believe he won't be coming back, but this retiring and coming back thing has happened before.
Yeah, I was reading an article in Janruary that said Miller was done at the end of the season, but he did say that he still thinks he can bang down low with anyone, "now that Shaq's big a$$ is on the couch.", lol.
But Kirilenko is a huge addition, he's a stretch 4, can also play the three, can give you about 10 a game and All-NBA defense.
But even creepier than the T-Wolves going after white guys is the fact htat Kahn is making the right decision these days. Maybe the Mayans were right.......
And that all white starting lineup is looking hauntingly realistic, it won't be their usual starting linuep, but it could very well happen. Rubio, Roy, Kirielenko, Love, and Pek is what would be their normal starting lineup, and I could assume that Roy will not play the back end of back-to-backs, which means they would go with Ridnour, assuming they still have him. He started SG next to Rubio for most of the season. And if not him than Barea. Dang, that's more European than White, they just need to go get, say a guy like Zaza Pachulia, or even Yi Jianlian , hold Love out for one game citing "precautionary measures" and start a whole lineup with foreign palyers, Spain, Puerto Rico, Russia, China, and Serbia. Is that a starting lineup or a united nations media guide?, lol.
I think Roy is more mixed than he is white.
Roy is not white you racist Indian f uck.
Hold the f*ck up....
Now I'm the first person who loves jokes especially on my people. Believe me, some of them are hilarious. But once you step that joking boundary and start entering that ignorance territory, then we got some issues bro. I'm getting that vibe but I'm not even going to go into it like that right now cuz I got school in the AM. But you've been warned (Leroy stare)
^Read the damn post, I listed their predicted normal starting lineup, and then I said that when Roy sits out to rest his knee, Ridnour or Barea will start in his place.
Before you accuse people of being racist, read carefully.
cant forget he traded for chase budinger too this off-season
pretty blatant...but the GMs job is to make the owner money...not many black people in Sota is there? they need to fill the seats...im not saying i agree with it, because i believe WINNING makes money but some people like Kahn are just racist douchebags?
Waaaaaaaaaaait a minute lets not start saying that Minnesotans are racist here. Kahn (while potentially racially biased) is making moves that would benefit his team. He's trying to improve on the rest of the squad most notably the defense and shooting. Which he has been very successful so far this off season.
There are plenty of black people in the Twin Cities, brotherrrrrrrr.
There are black people in the city, but like 98 of the non twin cities part of the state is white
Uhh no? Have you ever been here?
There are black people in the city, but like 98% of the non twin cities part of the state is white
NBA arenas sell out to largely white crowds all across the country. No one has thought they need to have large numbers of white players to appeal to the "Fans" for at least forty years. The Knicks kept a white guy at the end of the bench to put in during blowouts back in the 80s and 90s. Frankly, I don't think it was a coincidence that it was usually a white guy. But it was just one guy at league minimum, it wasn't such a big deal. But it was probably a little racist.
But yes, with Buddinger coming in (he could start) and with Rubio, Love and Pek looking like studs, I think Kahn has seized on a plan to at least get some noteriaty for the team. It isn't just going to be the first mainly white starters team in 30 years, it is going to be a playoff caliber team as well. And I will be really surprise if Roy can come all the way back to being a starter. So I'm actually looking at them and thinking their starting five as for right now is Rubio, Ridnour, Buddinger, Love and Pek.
Or it could just really be a coincidence. I mean Wes Johnson was terrible last year. Him leaving town isn't exactly great evidence for a racist conspiracy. And Kirilenko has been, many years ago, awesome. I think any GM would give him a tryout if he wanted to come back to the NBA. And Williams might start over Buddinger at SF, right?
Don't really like the Love Pekovic combo because not much shot blocking, they might be better starting Stiemsma.
Tell that to Pekovic's face and see what happens to yours.
so if a team starts 5 players of the same race, it is not racist. unless they are white?
I guess so, man.
I get it that slavery was and always will be an everlasting blemish on the face of American society, but this is the NBA. And it hasn't happened yet! Let's not go overboard. The Wolves have gotten better with their moves thus far.
I dont follow the Wolves much, so dont know the team. but who are the 5 white suppossed starters?
C: Stestima, not starting over Pekovic
When did Rubio become white?
Guys we are just trolling. Havent you heard, we are the timbertrolls?
The NBA is comprised of over 80% black players, so if a line-up is made up of all white players then it does show a level of discrimination. I don't think it's outlandish to say that this appears to be a marketing ploy.
You are quite stupid.
If 80% of the league is non white the chance of having an all white starting lineup is 3124/1
Your numbers assume every player in the league is equal and a player is chosen at random. Not that it's terrible but of if we look at the would be starting fives last year without injury we see about 1/6 starters were white, so that makes it even more remarkable that he's putting together a COMPETITIVE starting 5 because assuming 1/6 are starting quality the odds go from 3124:1 to 7775:1.
You people claiming discrimination with this situation are ignorant as hell
Agreed, if Kahn is racist someone forgot to tell him he is in the wrong sport. And country.
I mean it is interesting that he has put together what looks like could be a competitive white starting five (as I said earlier the odds are like 7775:1) but it is ridiculous we're still at a point in this country where when someone makes GOOD BASKETBALL moves the fact that they're white brings race into the picture.
The truth is the T-Wolves would be better with AK-47, no matter of skin color. The NBA is global as is the USA, if you ain't with it get left behind. I appreciate good ball players no matter what color. They wanted Batum badly, now on to plan B. It's funny that a couple of you got caught up in the racist BS, who really cares?
Its great marketing - whether its good or bad publicity at least kahn is getting the t-wolves talked about. If it adds up to more publicity and $$ for them - well done....
have derrick williams and brandon roy as your starters dude b roy will be the main SG while Derrick williams would be the main SF not even great marketing on the part of the twolves having alot of white guys in the starting roster who are they gonna get next dirk? or bring back white chocolate? common guys this is basketball and not bout being white,black or hespanic,filipino or asian its bout who can play the game well and i think broy and derrick williams could be the potential starters of the team
also get adam morrison to make it a whiter team? this is turning out to be a joke if this would happen
It seems this racial issue always comes back in your country.
Minnesota don't want to get WHITE players... they want to get EURO / INTERNATIONAL players to replace the "great legs, no brain" trio Randolph, Beasley, Johnson.
Barea, Rubio, Pekovic, Shved, Kirilenko and Batum (as targets) in two years.
Roy (I don't know if he's black or white in your mind, I personaly don't give a sh*t, he's a baller), Buddinger, Stiemsma have all great bball IQ (wether in O or D) and can fill a void, a role.
Anyway, KHAN is making a wonderfull job. Minnesota should a very interesting team to watch this year.
One question : what do you prefer ?
- a 11/12 M on 4 years Batum who costs you derrick williams and 2 first round draft picks
- a 8/9 M on 2 years Kirilenko who costs you wes johnson and 1 first round draft picks
I honestly don't think Kahn is going all racist here. I see it as he is going after a more international team.
That said it looks kind of odd.
Anyone know how old Kirilenko is now ?
31... he's from February 1981
He can still play at a high level then at age 31. Hopefully his injuries are behind him and he is finally fully healthy.
- here is the potential Twolves roster (with the AK47 trade) :
1st unit : Pekovic Love Kirilenko Roy Rubio
2nd unit : Stiemsma Williams Budinger Shved Ridnour
back ups : Barea Cunningham Hummel Lee
Balanced, deep, roster with smart experienced players... "something creepy happening in minny" ? yes but that's not about white or black, that's about building a strong roster without overpaying or piling up supposed stars
That's exactly what they're doing! They are signing talented young players for cheap (example Shved, Rubio, Pek, Williams, Hummel and Lee all on rookie contracts), a star player in Kevin Love, and supporting vets like AK, Roy, Budinger, Ridnour, and Barea. Even though 10 out of the 14 players are "white", they are signing a majority of foreign players to keep their cap low but potential for breakout seasons (like what Pek did last year) very high. Whether or not Kahn is racist is besides the point, he's building a good team and he's doing it smart. Never thought I'd see the day again but it looks like the Wolves could be in the playoffs as long as they stay close to .500 until Rubio can come back.
so kahns finally doing things correctly and hes a racist makes perfect sense why give the guy credit for building a high basketball iq squad smh hes making the twolves better regardless of what color the players skin is but of course in this im getting mine dog generation we live in hed b a racist for not doing it with black players absolutely fn ridculious
Sorry to break the news to everyone but rubio is .......SPANISH...... if he was filling a job app he wouldnt circle "white" when its time to fill the ethnicity box he would circle latino or spanish.
Also brandon roy is black where do you guys get the white thing because he is light skin? That makes him more white? In my city we have a school called imhotep one of the best basketball schools in the area and where everyday is african history month. Thats the kind of school roy went to growing up he takes pride and being black so to call him white would be something he wouldnt like.
My sentiment is this...I would feel most players in the NBA wouldn't want to play in Minnesota as a first choice. So if you're a GM for this team, you would have to think outside the box to fill the roster with talent. I think the international flavor for this team is derived from the idea the Minnesota mimics the enviornmental conditions of the European countries these players from, thus feeling more open to the idea. Then you will notice most of the non-European born players on the team (Love, Roy, Ridnour, Budinger, Williams, Lee) are West coast guys, so they have the comradery there. Free agent signings like Barea played in the Mid-West in college, and Stiemsma did not grow up to far from Minnesota.
you are completely wrong...
i.e. Utah Jazz and Indiana Pacers
Yeah, I think I remember some very white Utah teams. There was the Stockton, Hornacek and Eaton years, right? And then later on there were teams where Kirilenko was a total beast and he played with Harpring and Ostertag and Gugliota was on that team as well and they had some Euro shooting guard or point guard I think. But I don't remember which of the forwards started most of the time. I don't recall an Indianan one that had mainly white starters.