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Somebody Needs To Eat Some Crow

I had 2 brackets, and in one of them Louisville was in the Elite 8 and the other they were in the Final Four. Now... anyone can get lucky, so I by no means am suggesting that I knew it would happen.

My point is however.....who now thinks "Louisville has no where near the talent level of a top 5 team."?

As I mentioned previously, they dont have a bunch of 1st rounders like UNC or UK, but they have talent and an HOF coach.

2 Lessons to be learned....top 5 talent doesnt mean a team rank top 5....and dont sleep on a team with momentum.

http://nbadraft.net/forum/kentucky-vs-louisville-game-thread

http://nbadraft.net/forum/louisville#comment-441238


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oh...

and props to Dale Worthington

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ok, why you negging and

ok, why you negging and hiding behind the keyboard??? so you think Louisville just lucked their way to a Big East championship and a Final Four berth??? Ok...

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I had faith in Louisville and

I had faith in Louisville and have them in the final four

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i hate u... lol jk +1. i had em hi in my brackets but im not gon

lie, i agreed

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well good for you...you obviously didnt buy into the notion that they were a 2nd-3rd tier team. On the other hand, I knew that Duke had no business being mentioned in the same class as UNC and Kentucky. Even Coach K said UNC was the best team in the conference...and that was when Duke was ranked 4th in the nation. Duke only has one player that can consistently bring it...and he is a freshman. I never picked Duke in any bracket to go past the Sweet 16.

I am not saying we knew Louisville was a lock for the Final Four. I am simply saying....when they were in the top 5 and undefeated....all these people were saying it was a fluke...and I just wasnt buying it. The Cards are good.

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I wasnt referring to you for the record. You were just asking what did we think of Louisville after they dropped out of the top 25. I was referring to the poster who also said Kendall Marshall (35% from 3pt range on the year) cant shoot.

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Why did I think I was about to get Laid???

When I hear the words "It's Time to eat some Crow" I always think I'm about to get a Dick Suck...

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Surve

We are negging you for making an entire thread stating how you picked Louisville to make the Final Four and the majority of people, who did not, are now "eating crow".

May not have been your intention, but...there it is.

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Thanks surve. I think the

Thanks surve.

I think the people who picked Duke, Mizzou, and FSU to go far are sillier than the people who hated on The Ville.

Either way, HATERS GONNA HATE, POTATOES GONNA POTATE.

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I actually had a second

I actually had a second bracket that I made 40 minutes beore the deadline in the middle of a college and career class where I was on hte computer doing "Career Reasearch", and I made another bracket that is doing much better than my first one, but I didn't have enough time to add it to this sites group, nor the one I'm in at school, I'd be in the top 1/4th on this stie and top 5(out of 30) in the other one.

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I hate it when people dont read.... I said I couldve very well been lucky. Louisville however was not. I could care less about being right as far as the bracket. Read the thread.

I said "My point is however.....who now thinks "Louisville has no where near the talent level of a top 5 team."?

This is directed to all of those who felt Louisville was not Top 5 worthy. This is for all of those who prematurely made reports of Louisville's demise. If you didnt pick Louisville for your final four, no sweat. If you are one of those who said they were a tier 2 or tier 3 team at best when they were facing all those injuries and still finding a way to win....this Bud's 4 U.

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Since PG is on this thread,

Since PG is on this thread, how about we work on that Josh Smith deal, and get it done right here right now?

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You may hate it that people don't read...but they don't, and that's why they're negging you. I know what your intent was, but I can also see why people might misinterpret your post as an "In your face" thing.

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call me silly, but I picked Mizzou to make the Final Four in both my brackets....totally mucked up my chance of winning my pools. As for FSU, I watched them a lot this season, and they cant score consistently so I never had them past the Sweet 16. I also took flyers on Vandy and WVU. so as I said, I am not Nostradamus. I never for once believed that Louisville would not be a force to be reckoned with come tourney time however. To say they didnt belong in the Top 5 was total disrespect to them, a team that was undeafeated while playing banged up for a good stretch.

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I am not an "in your face" guy. sometimes, you gotta be though. I felt that statement was ridiculous about Louisville not being "close to top 5 talent" at a time where they were ranked #4 and they had injury after injury and had already beaten Lamar, Ohio, LBSU, and Memphis....all tourney teams by the way. They had a good schedule strength.

As far as the negs, I could care less, someone here said (maybe WizardofOZ???) that the bad part about points on this site is people neg you without giving a response as to why. Leading one to believe that someone is just negging because their feelings were hurt. I respect you for posting why you or others may neg. If you neg thats fine, but if you took the time to come here and neg at least say why u negged....even if its because I am being a butthole.

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I agree completely with the

I agree completely with the momentum aspect and i'm all about teams buying into a philosophy and all that. In fact I think this is probably Pitino's best coaching job ever because that team is nowhere close to having top ten talent.

Russ Smith is surprisingly good although his decision making and shot selection is atrocious.

Chris Smith is a good shooter and that's about it.

Kyle Kuric is actually a pretty good player who has disappointed majorly this year in my eyes. He can do a little bit of everything but something has just been off most of the year. A good player though.

Chane Behanan is a bull who relies on strength and more strength during a game. He needs a lot of work as far as developing post moves and his shooting is concerned. A good offensive rebounder however.

Peyton Siva.. I dislike his game probably more than any point guard I've seen. He's an athlete that happens to be short. His decision making is suspect, and he struggles to finish inside and shoot from ooutside. More of a distributor although he gets caught in the air and tries to make flashy passes far too often. I don't really care for his demeanor on the court either. His talent level is marginal at best

Wayne Blackshear can become a very good player but he's far too raw at this point to be considered any type of threat.

Gorgui Dieng however I do like a lot. He's thin as a rail but he plays with great toughness. His timing is quite good and although his shot is ugly as sin, it goes in at a decent clip for a big guy. Great shot-blocker, similar to Jarvis Varnado a few years back.

This is not a very talented team. They do however (usually) play frenetic defense and force a ton of turnovers. Pitino really has a scrappy team more-so than a talented team this year, but those seem to be the teams he relishes coaching more. I think they lose to either Baylor or Kentucky in the next round simply because they don't have the length nor the firepower to hang around against teams with that much more talent.

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I'm still sticking with my

I'm still sticking with my opinion on Louisville. Your arguement on their talent level cant be that they made the final four because then you would have to make the same arguement about last year's VCU team. I really hope you dont think that VCU was a top 5 talent team last year. Or also that Duke and Missouri were not top 30 teams in the country this season.

Less talented teams beat more talented teams all the time, get over it, stranger things have happened.

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By the way, I'm well aware

By the way, I'm well aware this thread is directed at me and you should know you are not the first person to get a prediction correct. Most posters are just more mature and dont brag about guessing one final four team correctly when everyone knows picking the NCAA tourney is pretty much a crap shoot.

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He's gonna get mad at you for "misinterpreting" his post and not reading it thoroughly

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Are you the same

do*che bag who wanted back pats for whatever blah blah blah? I'm over this kind of stuff.

And negatives to anyone who mentions points now, before, and forever, especially multiple posts in the same point baggin thread.

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Its not just about the Final

Its not just about the Final Four. I aint braggin, I did say I was lucky...perhaps I shouldve left my brackets out of it. I didnt pick Louisville to get the championship by the way and I revealed that otherwise, my brackets were jacked up.... but you guys act like its luck to win the Big East and get to the Final Four in the same year. That aint luck. Louisville had a bad stretch but they were a legitimate threat early and late in the season. VCU didnt play in the Big East last year and there werent #4 in the country either.

You also say Kendall Marshall cant shoot, be he has been respectable from three. Cant shoot means you dont need to guard a person. I just dont believe you watch games. I dont want a back pat, yall dudes just get on here yappin and still going on about how talentless Louisville is. I never said they were as talented as UNC, UK, Baylor, or Ohio State. You mentioned Duke, thats pretty much shows what you know right there. Duke had one of the least talented teams they have had in a LOOOOOOONG time. Outside of Rivers, they could do nothing but shoot 3's. Duke had a great season but even their coach will admit they overachieved. So where are all these other teams that are more talented than Louisville? Syracuse, yes. So thats 5 teams all together, but you said they were no where in that vicinity. Ok.

I am not on here to be a points whore. I have no emotional attachment to this. How bout I am so mature that I wont neg u ever because u act like thest points will get u some ussy or something. Get off your rag girls.

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Now you are saying I dont

Now you are saying I dont watch games when you are the one who is valuing Marshall's shooting ability solely off a percentage. Obviously percentage plays a part, but if you were to watch the games Marshall primarily shoots threes when he is set and wide open which is why his percentage is high. 95% of players in the country can hit an open three no matter how good of a shooter they are.

I think to be considered a good shooter you have to do more than shoot spot up threes. You must be able to pull up off a dribble from a distance effectively and come off screens well. I dont think Marshall does either of those things very well which is why he is nothing more than an average of below average shooter to me. I'll give credit when its due, Marshall does not force threes, but also has shown nothing that would warrant him as what I consider as a good shooter.

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