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So now that Anthony Davis' season is over...

Okay, so I'm not sure if I've ever disagreed with the media more on one of their hyped "next big thing"'s than I do with Anthony Davis.

I think Davis will be a solid NBA player. He blocks shots, rebounds, runs the floor well. His jump shot isn't great (And he's hesistant to take it in close games) but its better than what you would normally get from a guy whose 6'10.

But, theres many questions I have about him. Kentucky really didn't play that tough of a schedule. Davis rarely guarded elite players on defense, and was really allowed to just swarm and look for blocks, something that won't happen as much in the NBA. The guy really doesn't have much of a post up game. And I know people think he's gonna make his money on the defensive end, but are we completely sure he's a great 1 on 1 defender, and not just a weakside block guy? Its easy to "alter" shots when Peyton Siva is throwing up garbage, but when Russ Westbrook and Derrick Rose are flying in looking to dunk it, is he going to be standing in there way? I don't even know if there is a guard in college basketball who has elite, NBA calibur finishing at the rim skill, and surely Davis never faced a guy like that this year. And as far as offensively goes....1-10? I don't ever remember a college player being revered as by far the best player in the Nation, the POTY, the MOP of the Final Four, the sure fire No.1 pick future superstar going 1-10?

If I was a team contending, and I could pick this guy up to help my team get pushed over the top, Blocks, Rebounds, play the role he had on UK, I would jump at it. But if I'm Charlotte, looking for a future franchise star, what am I getting? Is this guy going to make Charlotte vastly better? In a 90-90 tie, with 1:30 to go, are they going to give it to him on the block, and clear out, and let him make a move and make the play that wins the game? Of course not. He doesn't possess that skill. And that's what true superstars do. When Durant was the first Freshman to win POY, he was averaging double the PPG Davis does. Double. He will play. He will be good at the things he's good at. But labeling this guy as Tim Duncan is an embarrassment. I remember Duncan putting up 21-20-10-8 in a close out game of the NBA finals. Not 1-10 again Jeff Withey...


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Yes and Duncan wasn't even

Yes and Duncan wasn't even half or a player as a freshman Davis is now..

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Ant Davis proved all year

Ant Davis proved all year long he is the #1 pick,and Ant Davis dominates games without being a major offensive player, which is even more appealing to me.

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Who is he going to dominate

Who is he going to dominate defensively at the next level? Hes going to stop Blake Griffin? LaMarcus Aldridge? He dominated college games with his defense. So did Emeka Okafor, hell Hasheem Thabeet got to a Final Four "altering" games with his shot blocking.

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Duncan had an NBA body.

Duncan had an NBA body. Duncan averaged 10-9.5-4 blocks. Thats not too far from Davis...and saying that is like saying Kevin Durant had the greatest freshman season of alltime, so theres no doubt he'll be as good as Jordan.

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We are on the same page but

We are on the same page but people here love him and you will not change there minds with logic. its just a wait and see game now. I also noticed he just sat in the paint, my friend and I counted so many three seconds out loud sitting next to this Kentucky fan at the bar, he got so pissed "they would call it if it mttered" he said. But he just waited in the paint.

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Ok, so first off, I'm not

Ok, so first off, I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with Anthony Davis being Duncan. But, comparing a 19 year old Davis to a 27(?) year old Duncan who had been in the league for years under one of the best coaches in the game, isn't really fair.

A) Kentucky, more specifically, calipari, run a non big man centered offense. Hard to get into a rhythm if you are a big man.

B) he still is filling out. 2 years ago this guy was a point guard, he is still learning his body and positioning and how to play with his gifts. Imagin if you grew 8 inches tonight, I couldn't even walk for 2 months let alone be nimble and athletic.

C)does anyone even remember Duncan in college. I was like 13, so I don't, but I highly doubt he was as polished of a player as he is now.

D) whitey is a very underrated defender. Legit 7' hustle player. On top of that it was one of the most physical games I've ever seen in a championship. In most games Davis would have shot 15 more free throws.

Thats all.

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You are drastically

You are drastically underrating Davis' ability. He's a phenomenal athlete at his size, and has a huge wingspan. He bounces off the floor so effortlessly. His jumper is somewhat inconsistent, but he's gotten better with it as the year has gone along. He works hard, and seems to be a good kid to be around.

Just curious, if you aren't taking Davis at #1, then who are you taking?

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I agree with the poster who

I agree with the poster who said it's a wait and see game, I think that's what everyone should go by with any prospect.

The only concern I have with Davis is his size, he is going to get man handled if he doesn't put on some weight that's a fact, Durant was skinny coming out but he had a totally different game than Davis.

And also you've got to wonder if Davis does gain a good amount of weight will it hurt his athleticism?

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Ok, so first off, I'm not

Ok, so first off, I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with Anthony Davis being Duncan. But, comparing a 19 year old Davis to a 27(?) year old Duncan who had been in the league for years under one of the best coaches in the game, isn't really fair.

I understand this. Comparing any 19 year old to Tim Duncan is absurd, which is actually my point. Tim Duncan has had an entire NBA career already. He grew up in an era where you went to school for 4 years, and the game was drastically different in that regard. Saying he averaged better stats than Duncan freshman year is silly, are we going to say Kevin Durant would have averaged 45 PPG if he stayed at Texas for 4 years? Maybe...but he still isn't a better scorer than Jordan at the NBA level, and Jordan was averaging less PPG his Junior year than Durant did his Fresh. year. My point is, comparing his stats to Duncan's Fresh year is not a valid way of comparing the 2. Different times.

A) Kentucky, more specifically, calipari, run a non big man centered offense. Hard to get into a rhythm if you are a big man.

DeMarcus Cousins would pretty mediocre his first month or so in this offense, but was a a big time scorer in conference play. Cousins was in the same system, and was a much more polished offensive player.

B) he still is filling out. 2 years ago this guy was a point guard, he is still learning his body and positioning and how to play with his gifts. Imagin if you grew 8 inches tonight, I couldn't even walk for 2 months let alone be nimble and athletic.

Ok, I but I don't have any issue with his athletisicm or how he uses his body. If he's going to bulk up, great. But you rarely see this with NBA guys. KG stayed skinny, KD stayed skinny, I just don't see him bulking up too much. I have no problem with how he uses his body now.

C)does anyone even remember Duncan in college. I was like 13, so I don't, but I highly doubt he was as polished of a player as he is now.

I answered this at the top. Unfair to compare eras like that.

D) whitey is a very underrated defender. Legit 7' hustle player. On top of that it was one of the most physical games I've ever seen in a championship. In most games Davis would have shot 15 more free throws.

I really don't understand how Davis would have shot 15 more FTs...but okay.

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Again, my point is with the

Again, my point is with the "Super Duper Star/Tim Duncan" comparisons. They are wildly off base. I like his game at the next level, and he will contribute. But someone explain to me what he does for Charlotte to make them better right away?

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First of all, Jeff Withey

First of all, Jeff Withey blocked more shots in the NCAA tournament than any other player in the history of the NCAA tournament. He's not a glamerous guy, but he's a legit NBA prospect who blocked 3.6 shots per game and was the Big 12 defensive player of the year. Going 1-10 against him isn't exactly like going 1-10 against a 6'8'' college center destined for the D-League.

Anthony Davis will be just fine as a pro. One thing that can't be overlooked is his improvement throughout the season, he adjusted just fine during the season and although he didn't have a great shooting night he was a major factor.

Yes Okafor and Thabeet did a lot of the things defensively that Davis did, but neither possessed the speed, ball handling or shooting touch Davis did. Yes, he's still developing on offense, but what has he shown that indicates that he, a 19 year old kid, will not improve?

NOTHING! He's not a guy who hit a freshman wall and struggled, he's not a guy who has a bad rap for being lazy. He's a hard working guy who has improved and adapted to the college game rather well. You can look at his game now and pick it apart, but he's not done developing and he has done nothing to indicate he's done getting better. He's not going to score 20ppg every season, but he could be a legit 2nd or 3rd option on offense and despite the fact he went 1-10 last night, he had 5 assists ( offense) and displayed a good grasp of high post passing. He's still getting better.

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Players like Derrick Rose,

Players like Derrick Rose, Durant, Blake Griffin, really good top picks from the last few years all get better. But their basic skills and talents are obvious already when they are drafted. With Davis its "He could get so much better, hes only 19, he'll develop a post up game, he'll become a better jump shooter, etc". I never have really seen a player improve this dramatically. Tim Duncan was a great offensive player. GREAT. I don't see Anthony Davis being in the class, with someone regarded as one of the 10-12 best players in the history of the NBA. Thats my point. I NEVERRR said Davis can't play or won't be a decent pro.

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Going 1-10 against him isn't

Going 1-10 against him isn't exactly like going 1-10 against a 6'8'' college center destined for the D-League.

Enlighten me with how many 6'8 D-Leaguers he will face in the NBA?

My response to you is this, I know he can get better. Everyone can get better. And saying he will be "fine" in the NBA, and saying he could be Tim Duncan, are two entirely different things. He does have speed, and decent ball handling skills, but his offensive game isn't going to dominate anyone. He is going to have to be an elite defensive player, and my point was, guys have done that in the past against college big men.

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I dont see the Duncan comparisons at all. I'd say he's more KG than Duncan. Athletically and physically he's very similar to KG coming out of HS. Duncan had an NBA body as a youngster, but never used pure athletic tools to dominate, he was a heady player with an array of skills. Duncan also had an elite post game, which Davis doesn't have.

As tylert6 said, he is just getting used to his body. Think about it. Two years ago as a 6'2 guard, this kid played(obviously) a completely different game than he does now. He isn't a big who was honing his interior skills throughout HS. This is another thing that impresses me about him, because he has the BBall IQ to quickly learn his position and dominate. Watch him off the ball on D. His rotations are flawless, and while his P&R defense isn't textbook, he's so damn quick he gets back to his man after a show in the blink of an eye.

Thabeet dominated on D because he was 7'4. Okafor is still a good NBA defender, but his offensive skill was never good. It's not as if Davis has been having abysmal shoot nights all year. He has one 1-10 game and you base your whole opinion on his offense on that? Kobe shot 3-21 3 nights ago. I guess his offensive skills are wanting(I am in NO WAY comparing the two here BTW)?

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Keep this in mind, he is a

Keep this in mind, he is a more hyped player out of college than BLAKE GRIFFIN...

Griffin, at age 20 (only a year older than Davis) averaged 22.7 PPG, and 14.4 RPG!!! And he was a better athlete than Davis. But oh yeah, I forgot, Davis blocks shots...

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It's not as if Davis has been

It's not as if Davis has been having abysmal shoot nights all year. He has one 1-10 game and you base your whole opinion on his offense on that?

Not at all, my point is, I find it hard to believe how much hype this guy is getting from a game where he was horrendous offensively. He averaged 14 PPG. Thats okay. Thats fine. But that's not great. He disappeared more than once offensively this year. I don't think he has any identity offensively. His jumpshooting is okay, its not spectacular by any means. His post game is very inconsistant and he lacks any go to moves. These are things NBA big men do. I know he will be a good defender, and a very good TEAM defensive player. But thats not how hes being hyped.

I am saying I could see him make a couple all star teams, and top out in the 17-10-3 range. Is that absurd? Is that dogging him? Am I calling him a bust? Noooooo. But he's not going to be an alltime great or top 10 player, thats all.

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You are right he doesn't have

You are right he doesn't have an identity on offensive, it was evident when he tried to use the spin underhook shot of Whitey 3 straight plays in a row and none of them worked, he was 6'2 2 years ago it's going to take time for his offensive to come along, but I also agree with you that he will never be an offensive machine.

But Davis game isn't based on offense, it's the other side of the ball that makes him the player he is.

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I remember Tim Duncan in

I remember Tim Duncan in college. He developed his game but he took a back seat offensively to Randolph Childress.

As for Davis' prospects. He will be fine cuz he can handle and has long arms. He is good at the FT line too. He has to work on his low post game but so does like 90% of the interior players coming out. If the only thing we have to worry about with Davis is his body, which will get bigger over time and more moves, which also can be taught, then thats great. The guy can handle for his size. THat alone puts him ahead of the curve

Larry Brown said whatever team gets Davis will win 50 games next year. I dont know how Charlotte would but I would see a vast improvement....please let it be GS

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russell westbrook averaged

russell westbrook averaged less than 4 points his freshman season. im just saying you never know but with tools ant davis posseses he is not going to fail

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Okay I've given up trying to

Okay I've given up trying to tell everyone my opinion of Anthony Davis. But what I think people overemphasize about his game is his ball handling. I can count on one hand the number of times he's taken his defender off the dribble and gotten to the rim, Thomas Robinson takes his defender off the dribble more and we're not drolling over his "dribbling ability". He may have the skills but he lacks confidence in them, much like his jumpshot. And therein lies my issue with Davis. How is he going to be a star (which a lot of you are claiming he will be) in the NBA when he isn't even the go-to guy on his college team (yes it may have been a great team) but I'm afraid he doesn't have the confidence to go out and be a star in the NBA and I don't take role players with great potential with the number one overall pick in the NBA draft...

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Every rebuttal is "Player X

Every rebuttal is "Player X wasn't that impressive when he was 19".

That is completely irrelevant. Every player grows and matures a different way, its not fair to just bring someone else up, and since they got really good, its a given Davis will turn into a cross between Ewing, Duncan, Hakeem, and Michael Jordan in 3 years.

I really don't care what Larry Brown thinks. Charlotte will be just as bad with him as they were without him.

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river09 well put I have been

river09 well put I have been saying the same thing. Everyone over emphasises his gaurd skills because they like to believe he was a PG so he must have great handles for his size "its like having a 6'10 PG out there". Yet he has never done anything to make people believe that.

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I can count on one hand the

I can count on one hand the number of times he's taken his defender off the dribble and gotten to the rim, Thomas Robinson takes his defender off the dribble more and we're not drolling over his "dribbling ability".

Agreed.

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Anthony Davis

He is far from a fnished product but what I see from him right now is basically Marcus Camby. Right now Davis has a nice 15-17 foot jump shot if his feet are set. Solid ball handling skills. Nice jump hook with the right hand over the left shoulder. Defensively great timing. Blocks shots without fouling. Runs the floor like a gazelle. great lateral quickness.

But I question any comparison to Tim Duncan. Also some of you are forgetting that in this era there aren't many great big men. Duncan played against Rasheed Wallace and a then Joe Smith who was a monster in college (don't care what happened in the pros). Just a different time and even with that said I do question all this new hype.

Steve Kerr said on the Colin Cowherd show that Davis is already more skilled than Kevin Garnett. For some of you young folks... KG is one of the best prospects ever to come out of high school. His numbers were videogame like. I like this kid but we need to slow down.

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He is showing some post up

He is showing some post up ability he did not show in the Kansas Game. If you watched the Louisville game, he made several right handed and left handed jump hooks. His stroke is consistant, and shows nice ability to pick and pop/roll. No question he needs to get stronger, but it looks like he can add more weight as he has added 30 lbs in the last year. Bottom line is, he does everything well.

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for the record

duncan did average 17 and 12 with 4 blocks his sophomore year of college but he didnt shoot 70% nor did he win a national championship

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AD

He would be a great fit next to a big man like Cousins, Greg Monroe or Nene. I don't think that there is anyone who would disagree with that.

But, can he be THE go to big man like Shaq? No. But no one is saying that he will be either.

Tim Duncan is a great Hall of Famer but he started out his career next to David Robinson who obviously helped his game. TD scored and D Rob played defense. ... so Duncan didn't start winning all by himself.

I think that Anthony Davis will be a combination of Ben Wallace (defense, blocking shots, rebounds) and Rasheed Wallace (length, size, finesse, dunks, willingness to work on the perimeter).

AD will be a very good player. If he goes to the right team he could make a good team great or turn a lotto team into a contender.

I admit though that he might not be an ideal fit on the Bobcats but they could make it work if they put Biyombo at the 5 and Davis at the 4 and just run and defend with Kemba Walker, Augustin, and Gerald Henderson doing most of the scoring. ... The Bobcats are at least two guys away anyway so they could shore up their front line with Anthony Davis to go with Biyombo and Mullens as a 3 big man rotation, then next year they can go after a wing player. Shabazz Mohammed would be a great fit. If McAdoo refines his game and projects as a small forward on the NBA level then he would be great too.

I could see him being a good fit for the Hornets. If Eric Gordon stays then they have some decent talent on the perimeter but lack stars on the inside. Davis could be the main inside threat plus he could play with Chris Kaman. Anthony Davis could really energize that team, help sell tickets, and help the team win games with his defense and intangibles. ... this might actually be the best fit for him. He could be the face of the franchise and the city would just be glad that the Hornets would be relevant again. AD could manage expectations. They would still be a piece or two away but then next year they could go after the best available guy. Maybe Shabazz for a wing player, Kabonbo at point guard, or go for a big two headed monster up front with Cody Zeller or Nerlens Noel to go along with AD. Even McAdoo would make some sense as a stretch four who could play some 3 when the Hornets would want to go big or the 4 with Davis at the 5 when they want to go small.

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My two cents

I think Davis can step in and contribute right away. He's enough of a terror on the defensive end to step in and be serviceable at the NBA level right now. As he learns to refine his positioning, rebounding, timing, and his NBA-level defensive IQ, he'll be an absolute monster. Secondly, as of right now, he looks like he doesn't belong in his body. Once he fills out, gains some strength, and learns to control his body better, he will be terrifying. Also, there's no doubt he'll work with coaches on his offense- lucky for him that's an area that can easily be worked on and improved.

I'm sticking with my claim that I see a lot of KG in him (but Davis is more of a C, whereas KG is a PF), and I think that's his ceiling.

The idea of him and Bismack Biyombo on the frontline in Charlotte should scare teams looking to drive in on them 5 years down the road.

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I remember Duncan's college career

Anthony Davis right now is better than Duncan was at the end of his sophomore year, despite the fact that Duncan scored more.

Davis is simply on a much better team: less minutes, less shot attempts, different team concept (Wake had two go-to guys.)

While Duncan was a great shotblocker, Davis is in a different league. He's truly in a class by himself.

The scoring will come. He has shown flashes of a face-up drive, a jumper and a hook in the post. I'm not worried about that. Some people simply don't get the kind of impact he has on the game that doesn't show up in stats - people are afraid to drive on him. He messes with heads!

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I'd take Davis #1 but I'm as

I'd take Davis #1 but I'm as high on him as most people. I think in his prime he'll be an 18-20 ppg and 12 rpg guy.

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I made the Tim Duncan comparison

I made the Tim Duncan comparison a long time ago. The similarities between the two are there. Both are highly unselfish players. Both don't care about stats and do whatever it takes to help the them win. Both are good passers from the high post. Both play smart defense. Both can hit the pick and pop jumper. The things that separates the two is Duncan was more skilled while Davis is more athletic. Duncan was a realible post scorer while Davis is not.

Also, what is it with all the comments about can you go to them in the last minute with the score tied. Why does everyone want the player who can score when the score is tied instead of the player who helps you dominate and you are up 10 plus with a minute to go and don't need to be clutch?

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People have to remember he's

People have to remember he's had basically a little over a year and half playing at 6'10..post skills take time to develop and I think in the NBA he'll develop some good ones. He's already tried to do some things on the block as the season went on..again the offense Calipari ran was non big man centered so it was tough for him.

Going back to the fact that he's 6'10 and has been for just under two years..he'll put on weight. This isn't a kid that has been skinny his whole life and has had problems, he just grew a &$#%#&@! ton haha. Hell, once he got to Kentucky i'm pretty sure he's put on 20-25lbs since when he was in high school if you just look at him. The weight will come.

His jumpshot is pretty good, it's serviceable and I don't think any of his coaches have a problem with him taking it. He even showed he can hit the 3. I am a big fan of Davis and always have been, I even played against him, but I agree it's a wait and see game with him. Lots of talent, and I think his floor will be someone like deandre jordan. IMO he will be great

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"Yes and Duncan wasn't even

"Yes and Duncan wasn't even half or a player as a freshman Davis is now.."

who was Russell Westbrook when Jordan Farmar was National Freshman of the Year?

I dont go by that stuff. Duncan didnt even play organized basketball until he got to Wake. Davis is a fast tracker. Duncan's game was honed and fine tuned all 4 years in college.

"But Davis game isn't based on offense, it's the other side of the ball that makes him the player he is"

I have no doubt Davis will be a good player in the NBA. I am not sold on him being a star or on the KG level. I am going to be in the minority with what I say here, but eventhough Davis doesnt have an identity on offense...I think eventually, he will work that out and will be a damn good offensive player. Its the defense that I think is getting too much hype. He will be a good defender, maybe even dominant to some degree, but I think he will get exploited early in his career. Right now, he is basically a help defender. One on one, he is gonna have problems. He is gonna have some problems rebounding I think as well, until he gets some strength.

Basically what I am saying is, as talented as he is, he is still a project. He wont reach any sort of peak until he gets some strength.

As I said, it would be nice if he could stay another year or so, but thats not practical in todays game. I think he has about 3 good years in the league until he starts rounding a corner. About the time he wouldve been a senior in college.

I touched on this in my Power Forward thread...but its crazy that if Greg Oden could stay healthy, even after all the injuries he could be a good player because of his strength. God forbid something happens to Davis knees....much of his game is predicated on extreme athleticism.

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saying that davis is hyped or

saying that davis is hyped or that he is not the nº1 player in this draft or that he'll just have a solid nba career shows that you know nothing about basketball...

I only agree with you in one thing and that is he cannot be compared to duncan, but not because he is not good enough(of course he is) but because they are player so different.

I really can't understand how people keep comparing davis to duncan or even worse to camby.. that would be ok if we talk only about his defensive game. davis is a unique player that cannot be compared to anyone because there are no nba player able to do what this guy is able to do.

there isn't one nba player who is 6'10-6'11 and has davis athletic ability not only to jump but to move the way he does, NO one

not even garnett, whom is been a game changer at the PF position, has never been able to move like davis and do the things he does, the only player he reminds me a little is pau gasol in his early years but davis is way more athletic...

please watch this video and tell me if k.garnett, t.duncan, l.aldridge, m.camby, c.bosh, d.howard or any other PF-C in the past has been able to do this things you are about to watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OSxB2HZAKE&feature=player_embedded#!

it doesn't matter if it is against high school kids, the important thing is how he moves...

and the most amazing thing is that he has won the player of the year and the ncaa championship showing very little of what he is capable in part due because the team was so good, but in the nba with much more spaces this guy is gonna be scary...

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See this is the thing that

See this is the thing that happens all the time, all people try to do is find what is wrong with a guys game once he is successful. It is exactly why guys should never stay for more than one year. Look at Harrison Barnes now the guy is a bust. Where if he had gone to NBA prob would be in talk for rookie of the year candidate.

AD is a very talented player. This is kid that went from 6'2" to 6'10" in a year and is still growing. Look at how he did compared to Drummond it is no contest. You can make flaws in anybody game if you want simply the kid is a very good player with lots of upside no more no less.

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Listen, I am not going to get

Listen, I am not going to get on here and ride nobody's jock or say whats cool just to get some points. The fact is, yall are taking everything at face value. Everybody dogs out J. Wall, but if he was on a good team, it would be a different story. Harrison Barnes stock is not really dropped that much, real people with eyes, can see that he didnt fit in Roy Williams offense unless it was in transition.

I said Davis is going to be good, but what the hell makes you think he is going to be so damn great? Have you ever heard of Ralph Sampson??? He did the same &$#%#&@! Davis did, he didnt win a title, but he played with a bunch of scrubs. Had Sampson played with the talent Davis did, he couldve won a title every year. How did Sampson's game translate to the pros? He was good....but when he knees went, he didnt have a job.

I dont buy all the hype, thats all. Not a knock against him, but Thomas Robinson deserved that POY award, because look at what he had suited up next to him compared to Davis.

I just dont base everything on how dominant a guy has been in college. There have been some really dominant college players that just couldnt cut it in the NBA or were mediocre at best.

John Wall dominated, but now all of a sudden he is overated. Harrison Barnes has already been an underachiever if you let some folk tell it. Like someone said above, its a wait and see thing. You cant take what you see in college and automatically apply it to the NBA.

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what makess you think hes not

what makess you think hes not gonna be great ? its all up to him and how bad he wants it , he just needs to show lil more emotion passion. hes tall, lanky as hell, lean, he will gain musscle no doubt he got broad shoulders,hes a good kid... its just him against himself . he will be real good. no keith closs stuff going on around him

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and btw happy birthday to mr

and btw happy birthday to mr keith closs , its his 36th today

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Why are there negatives for criticizing him

There are concerns. Do you people really think he will do this in the L? Kid is good but is not the best player in this draft. Calipari says he is a three or four in the l. He does not believe he dominates on D in the leauge. That tells you something. I think Davis will be a good pro. He may go number 1 but a few will be better mark my words.

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I am not sure how you can

I am not sure how you can watch Davis and not think he is easily the most talented player in this year's draft. People seem to be criticizing him for scoring over 14 points per game on 67% shooting as a 19 year old freshman big. I think Davis is the best prospect in recent memory to enter the draft, and he has a high floor and a high ceiling.

Davis has more potential on the offensive end of the floor than any other player in this year's draft class. I am not saying he is a lock to be the top offensive player in the class, but he is no scrub. The fact that he is able to convert lots of "easy" opportunities in college bodes well for him in the NBA, because transition scoring, offensive put-backs, and pick-and-roll scoring translate easier to the NBA than isolation scoring or post scoring against the superior athletes of the NBA. Davis has a very complete offensive game for a super-athletic freshman big, and he kept improving his game and adding new wrinkles as the season went on. If he keeps improving at the rate he has been in college, he will be the top post scorer of this year's draft class, with his elite quickness, touch, length, and coordination. That isn't to mention how scary Davis could be running the floor and finishing off the pick-and-roll and pick-and-pop. Very few freshman bigs who have only played their position for only a couple of years are as talented as Davis.

Davis has more superstar potential than every other player in this year's draft class, by far. I'll probably get negged for saying this since everybody seems to be trying to go against the flow of popular opinion, but I would be surprised if Davis didn't turn out to be an all-star player, and I think he will go down as the best Kentucky player to make the NBA from the Calipari era (so far).

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I still cant find where Davis was called a scrub.

Sorry I can see how someone would like a few other guys potential over Davis and his hype. Davis will not be a scrub. I think its crazy based on College ball you could be so sold. NBA is a different game.

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Kentucky's schedule

I read up top where someone anti-Davis said KU's schedule was weak and he didn't face tough competition. Well: Kansas twice

UNC

Indiana twice

Louisville twice

Flordia three times (all wins)

Baylor

So he went up against Henson and Zeller, Cody Zeller twice, Pat Young three times, Thomas Robinson and Withey twice, CJ Leslie in the tourny, and PJIII just to name the top ones aka likely first rounders.

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Most of those guys wont dominate

Nothing in the paint in the NBA. Let's check Jimmers stats vs top teams. Is he ROY? No. Davis had the better team as well so it means nothing.

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Comparisons

Great post.

I see Davis as more of a young Marcus Camby with a mix of KG. Much more of that as compared to Duncan.

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There is nothing wrong with

There is nothing wrong with comparing the kid, but compare him to his equivelents. If you had to pick between him O'neal, Mourning, Ewing, Sampson, Thabeet, etc after their first year who would you pick or more to the point in what order. Knowing how guys have already turned out scews the argument. Compare guys at same stage in their carreer.

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Why does this FvckSwag666 guy

Why does this FvckSwag666 guy have such a hard time comparing players at the same age? It seems pretty reasonable to compare Davis to where other guys were at the same time. Here's a look at some freshman seasons of the guys you've mentioned in this thread.

Tim Duncan: 9.8 pts, 9.6 reb, 3.75 blks, 54% FG

Blake Griffin: 14.7 pts, 9.1 reb, 0.8 blks, 56% FG

Hasheem Thabeet: 6.2 pts, 6.4 reb, 3.8 blks, 55% FG

Anthony Davis: 14.2 pts, 10.4 reb, 4.7 blks, 62% FG

The season Davis had leaves open the possibility that he'll morph into a KG/Duncan type player. It also leaves open the possibility that he'll be a Camby type player. I can't really imagine Davis being worse than that.

How will Davis make Charlotte better? Well he will help limit points in the paint. He will give the Bobcats' guards a nice option on the fast break. He'll help them get more points in the paint. He will improve their rebounding.

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"It is exactly why guys

"It is exactly why guys should never stay for more than one year"

thats a relative statement, because had you not seen Davis AND Drummond both in college this year....who would be #1?

is Davis more talented than Drummond? maybe. does that mean he will be a better NBA player.....absolutely not.

"I think Davis is the best prospect in recent memory to enter the draft, and he has a high floor and a high ceiling."

REALLY? I mean better than Durant? Better than Rose? Better than Lebron? Better than Dwight? Better than Blake? It depends on how far your memory can go back. I can go further.

"If you had to pick between him O'neal, Mourning, Ewing, Sampson, Thabeet, etc after their first year who would you pick or more to the point in what order."

if we are not talking about the times withstanding....Davis would be behind everyone except Thabeet (I dont remember Thabeet in his 1st year). Thabeet was every bit if not more of the intimidating shotblocker than Davis was in his final year at UCONN however. Thabeet didnt get as many blocks because he intimidated to the point of shots not even being taken. People were throwing up shots behind their heads, blind shots to the basket to avoid him.

O'Neal, Mourning, Ewing, Sampson....never played with 5 other potential 1st round picks of the same draft.

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@surve

Guy I am really trying to give you benifit of the doubt that you are not one of those close minded people that can only see their own veiw, but your responses paint a different picture.

Firstly nobody knows who will be the best player from this draft. Based on body of work so far without saying what could be Davis looks like he ahead of Drummond based on IQ alone. He dominates games without scoring which is hard for big men at a nba level to grasp. So no nobody knows, but you can atleast cop to fact at this point Davis is ahead.

He might not be better than Lebron and players you listed, but coming into the draft based on his college body of work he is hella nice. Consider that he was able to accomplish something only one other player has EVER done to act like he is run of mill first pick isn't giving guy any credit.

The fact that AD put up those numbers with 6 legit nba prospects on his team is impressive. He wasn't the focal point like those other guys and still manged to beat them at every stat possible. Not one of them beat hims in anything. If it was a blind choice put of the stats the guys ages and height, weight awards etc ask you to pick a guy to start a team with no way you pick AD second last. That is just you making a self serving argument.

I am not even a AD lover but just gotta be real.

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I stand by what I said. I

I stand by what I said. I think Davis is the best prospect since LeBron. Dwight Howard didn't even go 1st overall. I am not saying Davis will be a better player than Howard or Blake Griffin, but he is the superior prospect. Griffin wouldn't have gone 1st overall as a freshman.

@scout4real: Can you name a prospect in this year's draft that has a higher ceiling than Davis. I am skeptical.

It is not a flaw of Davis he played with other talented players. You can only evaluate what you see, and Davis was the unquestionable MVP of an extraordinarily talented team. MKG was also incredible and a leader, but Davis meant even more to the team with his contributions to the half court offense (just look at how much respect Kansas paid him) and his interior defense.

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Wow people are overrating the

Wow people are overrating the hell out of Davis... HAS THE MOST OFFENSIVE POTENTIAL AS ANYONE IN THIS DRAFT?!?!?!

He has no post moves and a mediocre at best jump shot. Just because he was a guard 2 years ago and grew doesn't mean he is going to develop a post game. Better prospect than Blake? D Rose? YOu guys are out of your minds. I said what I said. He will top out in the 17-10 with 3 blocks range. That is good, but that is not the hall of famer you are making him out to be. He isn't a very good offensive player at all. I don't want to hear about Kentucky's system or any other excuses. He barely had any big offensive games all year because he ISNT A VERY GOOD OFFENSIVE PLAYER.

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