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so far is keith benson impressing anyone in this game

hes missed 3 free throws in a row doesnt seem to be playing any defense either


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and hes got 1 rebound

this is in the first 8 minutes

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Texas is throwing different

Texas is throwing different looks at him. He's struggling

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Texas plays very good team

Texas plays very good team defense so this shouldnt be a surprise

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what do you think the nba is going to do

I think hes too skinny and not skilled enough to be succesful. utah states big man impressed me a lot more you could see some laimbeer p o attitude in him besides ability

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The depth of Texas is really affecting Benson.

Oakland is starting to come back now lets see what happens.

Texas is a really deep team and they certainly have more depth than Oakland does. And that might get them to the second round. They must have really listened to the scouting report on Benson. It shows. Keith Benson is really quite a player, The depth of Texas, is really is what is making Benson struggle. He is not used to facing this kind of depth and pressure in the Summit Conference.

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And this is based of off one

And this is based of off one half of a half a game or have you watched him all season?

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Utah State also played a much

Utah State also played a much weaker team in K-state. You really need to look at the opponent they are playing not just the player himself. Benson isn't used to this type of pressure and depth, but if Benson learns from this then he can be a force.

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its called crunch time good players

can be counted upon to show up in the biggest games , hes got 2 rebounds this game so far and everyones defending him WOW. he also got stuffed he is clearly being outplayed by texas big man

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So if a player plays well all

So if a player plays well all season but doesn't play well in one half of a tournament game he's not a cruntch time player?...interesting. I wonder how many guys haven't played well in a tournament game but wenton to play well in the NBA. Or guys who couldnt even get there team to a tournament but played well for a whole season and ended up playing well in the NBA

I think Brandon nigh hit one shot the whole game yesterday so he should probably be judged on that one shot and teams shouldnt take into account how good he played the rest of the year. Or the other extremem should be that he should be top 3 pick because he was crunth time by hitting that game winner so he must be a super cluth player. Forget awhole body of work lets just look at one half or one shot. yep that makes perfect sense

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James Harden comes to mind.

James Harden comes to mind.

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and how many players choke come crunch time

in the nba. you can either count on a player to be productive or you cant they dont just dissapear and if they do that should indicate something is wrong. most players know your supposed to play your best when it counts most, going by your logic its ok to coast in the playoffs and play hard all season, I would much rather it be the other way around and so would most professionals.

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da next Kwahmay Brown

da next Kwahmay Brown

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Texas is not throwing

Texas is not throwing different looks at him, Thompsons been on him all night. he is playing well considering the matchup issues. He is not an NBA player thou, he is way too skinny, weak, and a post up player. He wont be getting those post up buckets in the NBA.

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Going by the logic that all

Going by the logic that all the GM's use you judge a player by there college career not by one half of a game. That makes zero sense

Reggie hamilton is playing just as well as jordan hamilton so he should be a first rounder too going by youre logic

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thank you to kings and oh

someone else sees the truth, this guys going to be swallowed alive every night in the nba he is simply nowhere near strong enough to be a center in the league. its not one bad half its became two and he is hurting his team.

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i guess all the NBA

i guess all the NBA scouts,GMs are all wrong because they consider him a NBA player and have watched him for three years. Watching him for one half shows he is clearly not a NBA player...lol GTF out of here

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8pts 8 reb 1 blks yeah that

8pts 8 reb 1 blks yeah that is so horrible

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at this point yes i would be looking at other

players from oakland , like the ones actually keeping them in this game

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And thats why you're not a

And thats why you're not a NBA scout nor GM

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Its not from one half its his

Its not from one half its his body. He will get drafted on skill and potential, potentially he maybe able to gain 30 pounds but his frame does not look like it can take those 30. He would really get bodied in the NBA every night. Tristan Thompson is just pushing him around everywhere. I will so that he is playing very good despite the size issue, and he is getting buckets, but I mean Thompson has like 7 blocks and is going fr a triple double here by dominating Benson...

Also either benson is also 6'8 which everyone on this site has been saying Thompson is, or Thompson is also 6'11 which everyone is saying Benson is because they lok the same height from what Im watching. They probally meet somewher ein the middle 6'9ish 6'10ish. Benson looks bigger in a small conference and Thompson looks small because he slouches.

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Looking pretty good to me.

Looking pretty good to me. Not better than Tristian although no one ever said he was but he is playing pretty well....11pts 10 reb 2 blks

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funny how often the ones that are

have looked like idiots in the past and well never know how many good to great players havent gotten a look,

since when is getting your own misses impressive I prefer players that dont miss in the first place, how many shots has he needed for those points?

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6'9 1/2 6'10 is my guess for

6'9 1/2 6'10 is my guess for either player. And body is something that can be changed easily with weight training. Thats never a big issue

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they said the same thing

about shawn bradley and I think we know how well that worked out, anyone want to take bets on whos going to bodyslam benson first? they said the same thing about keith closs too. if they werent able to put on weight in college why will they in the pros? ebi should I continue with how often this logic has failed

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Seems to play pretty darn

Seems to play pretty darn well against strong teams i noticed. Texas, Mich st, Ohio st, Purdue. and dispite his weight (which can be easily fixed not that it needs to be since he has strength which matters more in the NBA) he has shown to be able to rebound which is one thing everyone says translates to the NBA game

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lake show i just gave three example of where

it was a big issue do you want to give me three players that have had massive weight and strength gains in the league

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How long of a career did both

How long of a career did both of those players have een though they were slim??? exactly. Guess hat shows he does't need weight to have a long NBA career. Also i can name other players who actally put on weight so what does that prove? That some put on weight and some don't

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How is he hurting his team?

He has 11 points, 10 boards and 2 blocks! How is that hurting his team? I've seen much worse. He is 6'11 and 245lbs (according to this site) how is that skinny and weak thats how tall and strong most NBA centers are today. The way he is performing so far against a deep and talented team like Texas is something so yeah he is impressing me with his game so far.

Don't just base your impression of him on one game. That is dumb and makes zero sense. Yeah, according to you he had one bad game against a darn good team. He's struggling in that one game, but that doesn't mean that will happen all the time. Every player struggles, even Dwight Howard struggles and has his bad games, the key is will he learn from this and improve his game and I think he will.

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name three players that have put on

massive weight and strength gains in the nba like i asked it proves its not that easy to do. bradley had a long career ebi and closs didnt

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If Benson wieghs 245 pounds,

If Benson wieghs 245 pounds, Thompson wieghs 260-270. He isnt 6'11 hes probally 6'10. He looks about 6'10 210-220 pounds at best.

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I look t his body, see he is

I look t his body, see he is not big enough for his skillset in the NBA, and doubt he can gain the wieght. IF he could gain the weight or was that size he would be a 1st rounder.

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Benson probably weighs like

Benson probably weighs like 220-225

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He can gain weight but he

He can gain weight but he doesn't need to .You dont need to be a hulk to play down low in the NBA thats been proven time and time again.

And yep he's having a pretty good game just liek he has for his career

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That doesn't make a difference and proves nothing.

Still though 13kavak, there are players who in the NBA today have put on weight and have had massive strength games. Saying that there are players who have and have not put on weight and strength in the NBA proves nothing. Putting on weight and strength takes effort, energy and commitment. I don't think you know if he has that. I think he does. So once again, you are wrong and really need to take our advice and change your opinion about him. Put up or Shut up.

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Benson has struggled a bit

Benson has struggled a bit I'd say. He also needs to get stronger. I think it would help maximize his athleticism on top of making him better able to establish position down low.

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why is it everyone says that there are

players who have put on massive strength and weight gain in the nba yet no one has named 3 yet? I very easily named three and could have named more two of those players also had a significant height advantage over benson

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It always makes me laugh when

It always makes me laugh when someone question's how strong a player is. None of us knows how strong or weak this kid is. I don't know how Strong tristian is but his opponents say he is very very strong

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yeah im pretty sure he will

yeah im pretty sure he will get stronger liek most players who come from college to the NBA after they get strength training. Him being a NBA player isnt even debateable since he's proven that through out his career so im not even gonna continue to debate about the obvious.

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well when you look like a twig

or shawn bradley and get posterized by a true big man how hard is figuring out 1+1=2

shawn bradley was very strong when he got body slammed

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Whiteside put on alot of

Whiteside put on alot of weight last year but thats different. He was about 215, standin at 7 feet,with a large frame. Thompson seems very strong, and he gets his body very low for leverage. Benson had a nice game, but he will likely be a 2nd round pic that gets cut from an NBA team and makes a living i the D League or overseas. If he can gain the weight you never know what happens because he is obviously very skilled.

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his weight will have nothing

his weight will have nothing to do if he tays in the NBA or not coem on now. when has a player been cut because he isn't big..He will make it and stick just liek many bigs before him who were smaller or skinnier. This isnt the NFL

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Having more muscle makes his

Having more muscle makes his moves more effective. If he cant back down his defender and get into his spots to make his moves then he wont score. If he is getting pushed around he wont defend. He has no faceup, and I never saw much of a jumpshot. In the NBA Thompson would become a relitively weak player. If he is getting abused by Thompson what s going to happen when he plays Howard, Horford, Jefferson etc. anyways you seem like your just arguing for the sake of arguing so im onna leave you to it.

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thanks canada for all of your

really good points and seeing it the way i do

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okay... ive seen benson up

okay... ive seen benson up real close at Oakland university.. i was about 4 feet away from him

hes about 6'9'' or 6'10'' not 6'8''... and i think hes an nba player... yeah he didnt play very good today... but he didnt play bad either and finished with 11 boards...ive seen him play he can hit a jump shot out to about 10-11 feet and can face the basket too... hes not the strongest guy, but has good athletism and is very mobile... against the top 25 in his career, he has averaged close to 20 and 10 i believe... dont sleep on him, its just one game... u cant assume he wont amount to squat in the nba cuz of today game vs Texas

the gist of what im tryna to say is that he has a future in the nba

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^ thanks

^ thanks.. Might be why no scout is dumb enough to just scout a player for one game then make a assesment about him. Makes no sense

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who u sayin thanks to quince

who u sayin thanks to quince lol

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ive seen benson play, i live

ive seen benson play, i live in michigan... the guy has game, i would know.. and he can hit a jump shot... even thou the conference he plays in isnt very strong... but remember that tennesee game??? yeah u guys didnt mention that

like i said u guys cant assume he wont do &$#%#&@! in the league... ITS ONE GAME!!!

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Guess nolan smith moved to

Guess nolan smith moved to late 2nd-undrafted since he didnt play great in the tournament game today

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