share

The so-called "experts" weigh in on NBA comparisons

TaylorCondrin
TaylorCondrin's picture
Registered User
Joined: 04/14/2009
Posts: 5136
Points: 9939
Offline
The so-called "experts" weigh in on NBA comparisons

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2011/news/story?page=5-on-5-110621

a couple insane things that were stated

1) dajuan wagner comparison to kyrie irving? wagner was a big 3-point shooting combo guard, kyrie couldnt be farther from that

2) jajuan johnson being compared to tyrus thomas makes me want to thoroughly injure the person who wrote that (Dan Feldman). Thats a shocking insult to the offensive capabilites of JaJuan Johnson. The only similarity they have is size.


dubbmotta
dubbmotta's picture
Registered User
Joined: 12/05/2008
Posts: 1020
Points: 2946
Offline
Bad comparison..Wagner and

Bad comparison..Wagner and Kyrie complete opposite. Wagner Avg 42 pts a game in high school. He was compared to Iverson. A lot stronger and athletic to Kyrie. Not knocking Kyrie but thats a bad comparison. Even the Tyrus Thomas one, Johnson is a better shooter and more fundamental, Thomas was just athletic.

thparadox
thparadox's picture
Registered User
Joined: 06/13/2008
Posts: 465
Points: 569
Offline
They aren't experts. they're

They aren't experts. they're bloggers... and yes, they sounded pretty stupid.

Also, Dajuan Wagner never reached his potential because of injuries. The guy worked his butt off but got unlucky. Don't hate.

dubbmotta
dubbmotta's picture
Registered User
Joined: 12/05/2008
Posts: 1020
Points: 2946
Offline
I don't see anyone in this

I don't see anyone in this post hating on Wagner..

cward23
Registered User
Joined: 04/16/2011
Posts: 617
Points: 170
Offline
Even most experts aren't

Even most experts aren't experts. They don't go to school for it or take classes they just go out,watch a player and give there opinion. No different then a fan who watch's alot fo basketball and knows basketball

mookie
mookie's picture
Registered User
Joined: 10/17/2010
Posts: 204
Points: 505
Offline
experts?

These NBA "experts" are always sooo wrong. The make predictions and then never admit when they are wrong. Watching and reading espn is soo annoying. I think most people on this forum are more legit and stand by their predictions and admit when they are wrong than espn. Jon Barry and Jalen Rose are two that come to mind that are pretty legit. Wilbon seems to just sweat magic and agree with him about 95% of the time and magic is just an uncle tom tryin to fit in. He is such a fake person, speically after he wrote what he wrote about Isiah...he still never responded to Isiah after he wrote that book. Isiah was his boy and he sold him out cuz everyone was/is on Isiah. So these comparisons espn makes...its no different than their analysis...for everyone 1 time they are right they are wrong 50 times. But they blow up that 1 time they were right and never ever mention again the 50 times they were wrong. Stop lookin pretty in front of the cameras!!

thparadox
thparadox's picture
Registered User
Joined: 06/13/2008
Posts: 465
Points: 569
Offline
To clarify, wasn't saying

To clarify, wasn't saying "don't hate" to anyone here.

I was referring to the bloggers who are choosing to use Wagner as a good bust example.

thparadox
thparadox's picture
Registered User
Joined: 06/13/2008
Posts: 465
Points: 569
Offline
To clarify, wasn't saying

To clarify, wasn't saying "don't hate" to anyone here.

I was referring to the bloggers who are choosing to use Wagner as a good bust example.

cward23
Registered User
Joined: 04/16/2011
Posts: 617
Points: 170
Offline
Wagner is more of a injury

Wagner is more of a injury bust than a Darko type bust

aamir543
Registered User
Joined: 04/11/2009
Posts: 5066
Points: 5557
Offline
Wow, I was watching the 1996

Wow, I was watching the 1996 draft and I was able to barely catch 30 seconds of the analysis of Kobe. they were comparing him to MJ already! I dont know who it was, but someone said Jordan doesn't his teamates better, but Kobe does.

billyk
Registered User
Joined: 12/05/2008
Posts: 1019
Points: 547
Offline
If Wagner is NOT considered a

If Wagner is NOT considered a BUST, the why is Greg Oden considered a BUST by many people?

providencefriars1
providencefriars1's picture
Registered User
Joined: 04/16/2011
Posts: 1167
Points: 3053
Offline
The guy on the 96 draft who

The guy on the 96 draft who said Kobe makes his teammates better and MJ doesnt was Kobe's father so take that with a grain of salt.

dodger
Registered User
Joined: 04/12/2009
Posts: 47
Points: 25
Offline
James Posey

The Jimmy Butler comparison to James Posey might seem pretty meaningless because it's not saying a lot for his potential, but after reading all the Butler stories regarding how he grew up, I am excited that experts see him having a 10 year career, he deserves it, seems like everything that is right with sports.

thparadox
thparadox's picture
Registered User
Joined: 06/13/2008
Posts: 465
Points: 569
Offline
In a draft context.... we're

In a draft context.... we're trying to make better decisions on who to draft. You can't evaluate a decision just based on whether a player turned into a star or not. You can only evaluate it based on the information you have at the time.

Oden and Wagner were both good decisions. They had the required talent, and I don't see any evidence that they didnt' work hard to make it in the league.

Just because a player didn't pan out, doesn't mean it was a bad draft decision. There is luck and randomness involved. Drafting a Rafael Araujo over Andre Iguodala, is COMPLETELY different than drafting Greg Oden over Kevin Durant.

RSS: Syndicate content