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Sliding like Johnny Manziel

I'll admit to not being the biggest expert when it comes to NFL, but I've decided to watch the draft due to all the hype on ESPN. It looks like Johnny Manziel is falling significantly, as I saw him going on most mocks in the top 3.

So the question I ask is, out of all the top NBA prospects, which player do you think will slide down the draft board like Johnny.


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Julius Bennett.

Julius Bennett.

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Randle is twice the athlete

Randle is twice the athlete and half the fat Bennett will ever be

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If by athlete you mean

If by athlete you mean stronger, I agree. Otherwise, no.

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Marcus Smart Between his

Marcus Smart

Between his excessive intensity which can create problems for him on and off the court, his subpar outside shooting, his lack of elite athleticism, and his lack of postseason success, Smart could certainly drop a few spots. Especially if teams looking for a point guard prefer guys like Exum, LaVine, or even Ennis or Napier

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Doug McDermott. Not saying

Doug McDermott. Not saying he will fall but he could. Lots of good players in that 7 through 20 range.

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As a cowboys fan I was

As a cowboys fan I was relieved we didn't buy into the hype and take him

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It doesn't usually happen in

It doesn't usually happen in the NBA like what Manziel is going through as excellent players can just be put into any lineup. When Manziel got past Minnesota I just couldn't see anywhere that would take him in the rest of the 1st round, maybe Arizona. I really hope the Texans get him. Coming out with Clowney and Manziel would be awesome.

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Browns gonna be nice. Jordan

Browns gonna be nice. Jordan Cam, Ben Tate, Flash Gordon and Johnny Football... Wow

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…all canceled out by the fact

…all canceled out by the fact that they're the Browns...

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Proud Grandpa

Proud Grandpa wasn't even born yet since the Browns were last championship-worthy.

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Good call...Josh Gordon was

Good call...Josh Gordon was just suspended for the year.

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Joel Embiid, at least out of

Joel Embiid, at least out of the Top 3. I see Parker and Wiggins as 1a 1b. After that depending on who selects and how bad Embiids injury concerns are he may get passed on. If injury concerns are present I doubt Orlando or Utah selects Embiid. I dont see Boston passing on him or LA for that matter if injuries are a concern although you never know what those two teams do on draft day with thier picks. I doubt Sacramento or Detroit would take Embiid having Cousins and Drummond. He could very well slide to Cleveland depending on the lottery results and once again injuries.

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Embiid

Interesting...Embiid has the highest upside in this draft. According to projections he's got the potential to be the best centre in the league.

But back injuries are scary, and this class is deep. So at what point does the risk vs reward start to pay off.

I.e. Hard to pick him when Wiggins and Parker are still available. But do you take the risk and take him when cant-miss pro's like Smart and Randle are still available?

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I'm a huge Manziel fan, soley

I'm a huge Manziel fan, soley based on his play, and entirely in spite of ESPN.

I think Johnny Manziel is sick of ESPN showing Johnny Manziel. WE GET IT. HE WAS REALLLLLLY GOOD IN COLLEGE. STOP. THIS ISN'T TEBOW.

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My top 8 sliders

My top sliders:

  1. Joel Embiid: Injury concerns are the reason why I think he will slide. A bad back is concerning for a player of his size and caliber. Even if he is medically flagged come combine, I don't think he will slide that far. Some team drafting from 3-6 will select him regardless of medical history. The Celtics, Lakers, and Magic all could use him, and if he is available around 3-6 then I think all 3 of those teams will not hesitate and draft him. Not much of a slide but for a player of his caliber and size he should be the number 1 pick so when he slides to possibly out of the top 3 to the 6th pick its a concern and considered a slide in my book.
  2. Dante Exum: For two reasons, one he is an international unknown player and two he is picking and choosing the teams he will workout for. He will only workout for a few select teams. No doubt the Lakers are on that list but as for the other very few teams, who knows. Personally, I don't think a draft prospect should get to pick and choose which teams he will workout for. I think you should workout for which ever team(s) invite you to workouts regardless of where they are picking. The fact that you are a draft prospect and trying to make it to the NBA, you should be grateful that team(s) are considering drafting you and have interest in you, and that is what teams are hinting at when they invite a draft prospect to a workout. So the fact that he is picking and choosing which teams he will work out for does put a red flag on him, and it concerns me. I think he will slide from 7 to late lottery. Again not much of a slide but for a player of his caliber and talents he should go top 3 so anywhere from 7-late lottery is considered a slide in my book.
  3. Rodney Hood: The fact that he forgot to show up in the tourney and has no defensive ability just offense concerns me. At one point he was considered a lottery pick, now I think he'll slide to somewhere in the twenties.
  4. Kyle Anderson: He was also considered a lottery pick but his lack of athletic ability has caused me too have concerns over him. I think he also slides to a pick in the twenties.
  5. Jerami Grant: He too was considered a lottery pick at one point but his lack of an offensive game has given me concerns. I think he will be a twenties pick again.
  6. Glenn Robinson III: He has alot of upside and was considered a lottery pick, but he has decreased into a role player for Michigan and that shouldn't have happened regardless of the kind team they had. I was hoping the leadership qualities that Trey Burke possesses rubbed off on him this year but I didn't see evidence of that this year. Instead they rubbed off on Nik Stauskas. I see GR3 going late first round to early second.
  7. James McAdoo: His high school hype never showed up while being a tarheel so his stock goes down significantly. Now I think he'll go in the fifties to late second round.
  8. Patrik Young: He does have a blue collar attitude and at one point was considered a first round talent. Now after 4 years of role player duty at Florida I see him going late second round to undrafted. With this big of a draft, I don't like role players, I want to see college stars and future NBA role players not college role players (big difference). Yes, he is a blue collar player, so I think he'll be drafted but not where he was expected to go when he came on to the college scene. Again late second round to possibly undrafted.

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I'm pretty sure Exum doesn't

I'm pretty sure Exum doesn't get past the Lakers at #6 if still available (assuming the big 3 Wiggins, Parker and Embiid aren't still on the board).

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I agree with you about Exum

I agree with you about Exum picking and choosing who he works out for... But he isn't sliding past 7!

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Picking and Choosing

I disagree when you say it's not right when prospects pick and choose who they try out for because they are supposed to be grateful just for the opportunity. That would apply to guys that are uncertain of their draft stock, but Exum know's he's going high.

When I graduated college, I had some flexibility about which company I joined. No-one made me join the worst one.

The truth is, the bad teams need Exum more than he needs them.

Nothing's stopping them from drafting him. They just do so knowing he doesn't want to play for them.

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Rodney Hood doesn't do enough

Rodney Hood doesn't do enough for me. There are a TON of small forwards and wings in this draft. He has had consideration before as a top 10 guy. He could end up falling to the late 20's. I actually like Cleanthony Early a lot, lot more. I like DeAndre Daniels a lot too.

It looks like thought that after Wiggins, Parker, Embiid, Exum, and Randle this thing is wide open. Vonleh and Smart look like locks for the top 10 but who knows? Then after that there are 15 to 20 or so guys who could go anywhere in the first round.

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I could see Jerami Grant

I could see Jerami Grant sliding to the second round. He isn't ready to help a team as a rookie and really isn't that much of an upside pick, as he lacks a good foundation of skills with the ball in his hands. Teams may be more ready to take a player with a more defined set of skills.

Zach LaVine is another guy who could slide. He won't look good analytically, so the pre-draft process may hurt him. He is really far away from contributing and probably was overhyped when he posted really good shooting numbers early in the season. People will start focusing less on that dunk he had against Missouri and more on his poor FG% at the rim and inability to hit jump shots late in the season as the pre-draft process goes on.

Rodney Hood is another guy who could slide to the second round due to the depth of the draft and his somewhat one-dimensional game. He seems a lot like James Jones to me, for better or worse.

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