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- Posted on: Thu, 10/07/2010 - 3:48pm #22187
Mr.Knick 32Participanthttp://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2010/10/superstar-u/
Imagine for a moment, if you will, that you are a high school basketball phenom (if you are REALLY a high school basketball phenom, stop surfing the net and go practice some free throws or something). Like most young players, you have aspirations of playing in the NBA one day, so obviously you want to pick a college to attend that will maximize your chances at becoming a NBA star in the near future.
What school do you choose?
With 347 NCAA Division I programs to select from, the choice are endless.
Or are they?
The truth of the matter is there are only a handful of schools that pump out NBA stars on a consistent basis. So what schools are these, you ask? We’ve got the answers. Remember that we’re not concerned with schools that supply the NBA with a high quantity of players; rather we are more concerned with the quality of these players. And we only care about the present, so we’re only interested in current NBA players. So, with that in mind, we came up with this handy scoring system to rank players to determine which college is currently best at producing NBA “stars”:
Multiple MVP awards = 10
MVP = 9
Multiple All-NBA selections = 8
All-NBA = 7
Multiple All-Star = 6
Multiple DPOY awards = 5
All-Star = 4
DPOY = 3
Multiple All-Defensive selections = 2
All-Def/ROY/6th Man winner = 1So, if a player has won multiple MVP awards (Shaq, Nash, etc.) he’s assigned 10 points. If he’s won one MVP (including Finals MVP) he’s given nine points, and so on. Then we went through all current players in the League, assigned the appropriate point total to them, assigned them to the college they attended, and voila — we have the definitive ranking of which school is worthy of the title “Superstar U”.
Honorable mention: Santa Clara, LSU, Kansas, Kentucky
5) North Carolina – 14 points
Current NBA Stars: Vince Carter, Antawn Jamison
Future Stars: Harrison Barnes (number one overall draft prospect, 2011), John Henson (lottery pick, 2011)You would expect mighty North Carolina to be much higher on this list, but in reality things have dried up for them as of late (at least in terms of producing NBA stars). With high draft picks such as Marvin Williams and Brandan Wright not becoming stars (yet) like had been projected for them, the Tar Heels have gone over a decade since they last produced a star player (brother-in-laws Vince Carter and Antawn Jamison entered the NBA in 1999). There is hope, however, as current Heels John Henson and Harrison Barnes are projected to be lottery picks next June.
4) Alabama – 15 points
Current NBA stars: Gerald Wallace, Mo Williams, Antonio McDyess
Future stars: JaMychal Green (late first round, 2011)Here is the shocker of all shockers — Alabama, a “football school”, is currently the fourth-best program at producing NBA talent. Better than North Carolina. And UCLA. And Kansas. And Kentucky. Crazy, but it’s true. The Crimson Tide might have only sent 24 players to the NBA in its history, but their current batch of pros have had great careers. However, once Antonio McDyess retires their ranking is going to drop, so they’ll need Gerald Wallace to continue his rise to the upper reaches of NBA stardom and/or current Big Man on Campus, JaMychal Green, to make a big splash in the League.
2) tie – Connecticut – 22 points
Current NBA stars: Ray Allen, Richard Hamilton, Caron Butler, Emeka Okafor, Ben Gordon
Future stars: Kemba Walker (lottery pick, 2011)No surprise here, as the UConn Huskies have long seemingly had a pipeline from their campus in Storrs to the NBA, at least recently (of their 29 players who have gone to the NBA, almost half are still currently playing). And considering how high in the draft both Emeka Okafor and Ben Gordon went, if they had played to the full potential some had seen in them as NBA pros, UConn’s ranking on the list would be even higher. The past couple of years have been rather quiet, though, with only Stanley Robinson getting drafted last year (and late in the draft, at that) and current point guard Kemba Walker considered a real NBA prospect on the current roster. Is the pipeline drying up?
2) tie – Wake Forest – 22 points
Current NBA stars: Tim Duncan, Chris Paul, Josh Howard
Future stars: Tony Woods (late first round, 2011)There are stars, and then there’s the level of stars Wake Forest has produced recently. In Tim Duncan and Chris Paul, the Demon Deacons have supplied the NBA with two of the best players in recent history. Also, they should both become the first NBA Hall-of-Famers to call Wake Forest their former home. But Paul better stick around and dominate the NBA for decades yet, because currently Wake Forest has no future NBA stars roaming its campus.
1) Duke – 24 points
Current NBA stars: Grant Hill, Carlos Boozer, Elton Brand, Shane Battier
Future stars: Kyrie Irving (top 10, 2011), Mason Plumlee (top 10, 2011), Kyle Singler (mid-first round, 2011), Nolan Smith (late first round, 2011)Duke makes it three Atlantic Coast Conference schools (and three North Carolina schools) to crack the top five. It’s no great shock that the reigning NCAA champ tops the list, as the Blue Devils were sending players to the big leagues even before Coach K stepped on campus. And the cupboard is nowhere near being bare, as the current roster has at least four guys who will someday step onto a NBA court. What’s more, top high school player Austin Rivers (and maybe Quincy Miller) has committed to Duke, which means the Blue Devils look to be an impact program — both in the NCAA and the NBA — for years to come.
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0 - Posted on: Thu, 10/07/2010 - 4:04pm #410218
ChewyParticipantbut they don’t live up to the hype usually.
Grant Hill- Injuries hurt all star talent
Laettner- Underachieved big time
Elton Brand- Shared ROY, wasted a few years in LA’s other team and then got injured alot.
Corey Magette- Great athlete, but gets most of his point from FT line and has average shot at best (shocker for a Dukie)
Josh McRoberts- eh… well you guys know…
Loul Deng- Solid player but overpaid
Chris Duhon- Average play as starter last year, moved back into a carreer back up by signing w/ Magic
Jay Williams- Horrible and unfourtunate carreer ending injury
Jon Sheyer- Just not quick enough or strong enough to be NBA successful
Brian Zoubek- if your 7 foot then you get a shot I guess
Mike Dunlevey- Average, average, and even more average
Shane Battier- Great glue guy. Pretty much what everyone expected of him
Daniel Ewing- Can make a roster but thats about it
Demarcus Nelson- Why did anyone think he could play in the NBA w/ his shooting and handles?
any more?
0 - Posted on: Thu, 10/07/2010 - 4:18pm #410221
Im Your FatherParticipantEvery school creates average talent. There is no school with a ton of superstars in the NBA every year. The fact that a player is a star has little to do with where they went to school.
And you forgot Carlos Boozer and Redick. Also Laettner didn’t really underachieve that much, people just like to say that, but he actually had some very good years.
For comparisons sake, lets go through some of Roy Williams’s players
Brandon Wright: Injured all the time, can’t get off the Golden State bench
Marvin Williams: Solid player, hasn’t lived up to the hype
Ray Felton: Solid player, hasn’t really lived up to the hype
Paul Pierce: NBA star
Jawad Williams: End of the bench type player
Hansborough: Role player
Hienrich: Solid role player, similar to Deng
Sean May: Fat and a bust
Rashad McCants: Attitude problems, can’t stay in the league
These players aren’t all superstars, but Roy Williams isn’t known for producing busts. And I’m not saying he should be known for that, he is an excellent coach. Bottom line: No team is consistently putting star players in the NBA. None. Kentucky has kind of come close to that lately but that just has to do with the quality of talent John Calipari is recruiting.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 10/07/2010 - 5:00pm #410223
McDunkinHinrich could do so much more then he has in recent years if he could get to a team that doesnt have the starting pg set in stone already
0 - Posted on: Thu, 10/07/2010 - 7:54pm #410253
ChewyParticipantgood call. I did forget them.
I think this talk comes from the fact that every coach has his own "type" of players he likes to recruit. It is just interesting to see which has ended up the most successful.
If we got by coach instead of team then I’d like to see what Bill Self’s track record looks like. (Id do it but im drunk and wanna go to bed) Goodnight.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/08/2010 - 5:53am #410296
PureshooterParticipantShavlik Randoph is another. He had plenty of ability and potential, but he left school early and has struggled around the NBA. I think he’s currently trying to hang on to a roster spot with the Heat.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/08/2010 - 6:20am #410302
Im Your FatherParticipantWell I don’t know if you count the Players he coached at Illinois for only part of time, but if you do…
Deron Williams: Arguably the best pg in the NBA
Dee Brown: Can’t stick in the league
Cole Aldrich: Just drafted
Xavier Henry: Just drafted
Julian Wright: Terrible in the NBA for some reason, I thought he would be good
Chalmers: NBA bench level player.
Sheron Collins: Undrafted
Luther Head: Ok NBA bench player
Brandon Rush: Still young, in trouble for Weed, hope he doesn’t go the way of his brothers
Aaron Something… Don’t remember his last name, pretty good college player, but I don’t think he was drafted
and I’m sure there are more that I’m not remembering
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