[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

Should they tank one more season?

3 stars is the key? Right now they likely have 2, in Simmons (a 3/4 hybrid), and Embiid.  I am on board with trading Okafor (terrible plus-minus, no defense no rebounding, lost in open space), and keeping Noel as our backup center.  I’ve suggested Okafor for Aminu and the Portland pick this year, but Portland stinks on defense and they are a smart organization so doubtful they’ll give up that much for Okafor, and if they want Noel I’ve heard suggestions for Crabbe, and I don’t want him, his game doesn’t impress.

The Sixers still need a lot of help at the perimeter.  The league has gotten worse this year.  I assumed we’d be near the bottom, as would the Lakers, but the Lakers are improving and other teams have gotten worse.

I think the Sixers will (unless Simmons joins and they start to beat teams they are better than on paper), finish in the bottom 4.  The best case scenario right now is the Lakers to finish bottom 10 (which I’m hoping I’m wrong…I beleive in regression to the mean, Dallas will improve once they figure it out, and Portland is definitely better than LAL).

To have 4 and 10 isn’t the worst thing in the world, we can still get a high quality PG and SG. Initially I began writing this with the hope that the Lakers would regress to a bottom 5 team as they have been the last several years (but Walton has turned things around and they are winning games on paper they "should" lose).

Here is how I see the league shaping up, from worse to better.

Tier 1:

Brooklyn, 

Tier 2:

Sixers, Miami, Orlando, Pheonix, New Orleans

Tier 3:

Dallas, LAL, Minnesota, SAC, Denver,

Tier 4:

Washington, Detroit, Milwaukee

I can see the Sixers pick being in the 1 – 5 range, and the Lakers pick 7 – 12 range, again, with the hope that the Lakers regress as they are a young team and the season wears on them, (althoguh I like Russell and his backups, and Ingram, both being high IQ guys don’t think the season will grind on them as much), the Lakers are a deep team.

In that best case scenario, let’s assume the Sixers get the first or second pick, would you rather them take Jackson or Fultz (right now its looking like a two horse race), knowing that someone will likely be there from 7 – 12 as a complementary guard.

You should take Simmons (ball dominant, likes to run), into consideration here (let’s say if you wanted Fox).

With 1 or 2, its either Jackson or Fultz.  Both guys have it all, with Jackson the overall better player on offense and defense, and Fultz the better ball handler and a more polished stroke.  I like Jackson’s game more, I wasn’t that high on him during HSAS games, I thoguht he was lazy, but he projects better than Wiggins to me.  And there are too many PGs in this draft (I don’t think Fultz is a superstar, I also don’t think we need him to be.).

So with pick 7 – 12, we need a PG with Size, that can Defend, that can attack defenses (to collapse defenses and set up bigs and shooters), and that can also shoot if Simmons has the ball, and has a high IQ.  More of a traditional PG if we land Jackson.  DeAaron Fox’s shot is untrustable, he would not help with spacing but would be next to wall and westbrook the fastest player in the league, and I don’t know enough about Frank Ntilinka (the video I’ve seen I found him to be nothing freakish, just a solid PG).

So in my opinion it would come down to, with Simmons, Embiid (you could trade Oak, Saric, and Noel for role players and depth),

Simmons, Embiid, _______, Jackson, Fox

Simmons, Embiid, ______, Fultz, Monk

Simmons, Embiid, ______, Ball, Taytum

Simmons, Embiid, ______, Isaac, (Bacon / Anunoby)

 

 

I am high on Monk, his athleticism is tier 1, and he has a very pretty shot and plays solid defense which translates well, I dislike his inability to drive, but his athleticism is freakish, reminds me of Jordan, and I think he is better than Lavine overall.  Not sure how he ranks compared to someone like Devon Booker, a guy that was taken 13 in his draft, unsung, but iwth a great IQ and ability to score.

What do you think?  If it comes down to Jackson, Fultz, Ball, Isaac with our pick, and Fox, Ntilinka Monk, Bacon, Aunonoby with the Lakers pick, what combo would you prefer.  

 

I think Simmons, Embiid, Josh Jackson is a trio that could win you multiple championships, surround them with role players.  

I want to tank 1 more year!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

Revisit 2015 draft.  

I know Embiid was a question mark, but the Sixers had to know the immense talent they had in him, and they already had Noel as insurance, and Okafor was not an easy pick at 3, there were still several options to be drafted.  The Lakers were smart enough to pass on him and there is not a huge difference between Mudiay and Russell.  With the 3rd pick we take Porzingis (perimeter smooth stroke and lateral defense) (Yes, I know, questions about whether he’d report to camp if we drafted being that he dint’ want to interview with us), but Porzingis failing to interview with us was a stupid move on his part.  He had to see the benefit of playing next to Joel Embiid regardless of what you think of tanking, look towrads the future KP..  If not, still could have drafted Mudiay who is more than serviceable compared to what we have right now along with our options in this upcoming draft.

But also, Miami opportunistically tanked that year with Bosh going down.  We could have had their first pick if it fell to 14.  Likely Devon Booker might still be available.  

If things went better in 2015, instead of Jah, we’d have Porzingis and Booker to complement Embiid, or Mudiay and Booker and likely Ben Simmons or Brandon Ingram to play with Embiid.

Porzingis, Booker, Ingram, Embiid……..

or Jackson, Fox, Simmons, Embiid……

To be honest I probably like the second option better….but still, we messed up with the Okafor pick, not a fan.  

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

  

[negguaryParticipant]

 why would you want the lakers to regress to a bottom five team and risk losing the pick??? A top ten pick in this deep class with top 4 pick is a win!!! 

[raymondlyfParticipant]

Simmons, Embiid, Jackson, Ball or Fox (whoever falls or trade up if required)

I agree with signing back Noel as backup and throw Okafor for some veterans… 

 

[markfitz14Participant]

 There is no need for that many rookies/young guys on one team. Mainly you have all the contracts coming due near the same time and they would all be getting max contracts. You wouldn’t even be able to keep them all. Also you Need to build around Simmons and Embid with Veterans. They can compete way quicker. I would even consider trading picks, At least the Lakers pick

[binetParticipant]

 Right now the team is not even competitive enough to develop talent well. Sixers have too many young prospects and that’s what makes some guys like Luwawu a wasted draft pick last year, or others like Stauskas and such look like indefinetely developping.

In order for Embiid and Simmons to grow they need to start winning.

Lots of the players in the roster are already decent to good also, and with possibly furkan korkmaz coming etc I am not sure the team needs too many new young guys.

Some stability is needed in that starting 5 and team ti build up and develp chemistry and style of play.

The 76ers could just trade one of their non-Embiid bigs plus their 2 eventual first rounders (theirs + Lakers) to move up and acquire a good or perfect fit like Markelle Fultz, but reshaping the team each year completely is probably the road to cement the team into the process and continuously tanking for that other good piece.

Keep in mind that even among very sought after lottery picks, more than half end up being subpar Okafor-like talent or worse. Once you have your 2 or 3 good players, especially if one or both have a questionable durability, it’s time to go out there and start to seek wins.

The 76ers are in that position right now. The true questions of the season are not whether the dream lottery scenario where they get picks 1 &4 and end up with 2 potential HoFers will happen but if the guys selected so far can make a decent team? is Brett Brown a good enough coach? will they get injured? What is Simmons position at this level? Is Simmons+Embiid working, what profile fits with them?

The sixers have a number of players in their roster with different profiles and a lot of these questions will find answers by the end of the year.

You need time to develop players also. Covington developped very well. The team should try to have that success with other prospects like Stauskas, Luwawu or even Saric before drafting Okafor 2.0 (except in the wing) in Josh Jackson and such…

Sixers also have several tradeable pieces and a pick swap with Sacramento so it makes a lot of sense to just try as hard as possible to compete and then eventually throw away some of these trade value to move up and get the special player they need. 

On paper Markelle Fultz seems like the dream scenario as a secondary ballhandler to Ben Simmons and a good complement to Big Ball defensive lineup of Simmons-(Fultz)-Covington-PF(Saric if well developped)-Embiid; but the team, especially the Ben Simmons-Joel Embiid duo, need more practice and competition to figure out their identity and needs. And more importantly if Brett Brown deserves his place. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

he is projecting as a Wiggins type body but with a better overall game.  He’s more fluid, better defender, better scorer than Wiggins.  He can take it to the hole and go past smaller guards at will.

And you are talking to me about Luwawu and Korkmaz?!?  I’m talking about the first overall pick, and you want to develop Stauskas Luwawu and a guy in Turkey whose body is rail thin who no one has seen a lick of?!!

How you equate Josh Jackson potentially becoming Jahlil Okafor for the price of tanking versus developing Stauskas Luwawu and Korkmaz is RIDICULOUS.

We need to pick 1 or 2 and land Jackson or Fultz. 

You are right that the coach sucks.  But I think Luwawu should be playing more minutes as it is.  Let that be a part of the tank.  The guy is still figuring out how to play.  But he is a 3 and D guy with a strong competetive mind.  Yes, I don’t think TLC was ever taught what a pass is, but I also don’t think Brown teaches what a pass is either with RoCo chucking 3s four seconds into the clock.  TLC should play more minutes off the bench than Stauskas Thompson and RoCo.

RoCo has not developed!  He is horrible at what he does which is shooting 3s.  You act like RoCo has become Trevor Ariza.  Players are more than stat-lines and size.

Robert Covington is low energy.  I am happy he is getting booed and benched.  I think Stauskas is developing which is shocking, but Brown is an idiot playing TJ McConnell together with Stauskas and Okafor and Saric or Sova, that has to be the worst defensive team in the league.

Sorry I ramble, but I’ve seen enough of the development of SUBPAR players that will not amount to anything.  Thats why I want to trade Okafor because he will never defend well, unless we see what he does with Embiid.

I want to wait and see another year with Saric.  I think Saric is a bench player and an 11 and 6 guy, basically what Ilyasova is in the league.  Journeyman professional that cannot defend power forwards and whose game is not consistent enough to be Kevin Love.  But I think Saric is tired from all his offseasson basketball.  So I’ll give him some time to rest and see how he does coming off the bench.  He’s a nice role player I just hate having him out there defending 4s in the league, he can’t do it.  I also Brett Brown is a moron putting the ball in TJMc hands so much and not letting Saric develop his passing skills, he has no one to pass it to because his guards are too small to cut to the hole.  Saric is like Peyton Manning in his first year with the colts, he’s like a rookie QB, he has to adjust to the speed of the game.  But he’s a fine backup role player on a good team, he is like a Mike Dunleavy, a guy that just never fits but has all the tools.  I just don’t want him defending bigs next to Okafor in the future….Brett Brown is a moron.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

[binetParticipant]

 This early in the season, lots of college prospects are overrated like Ben McLemore, Shabazz Muhammad or Jeremy Lamb were. From what I have seen so far, I felt like Josh Jackson could very well be that kind of guy. I have only seen Josh Jackson against Indiana this season though. I am not a fan of  the guy but if you rant this hard against me, maybe he is indeed good.Anyway, that was not my point, which was that the sixers cannot always tank because the next crop of prospects looks good. At some point you have t settle and build around the guys you have and develop the prospects you have, and stop learning them how to lose.

I think if Saric ends up as an Ilyasova type of guy, that would be quite disappointing, given how good he is/was as an european prospect and given what he has shown in his first few games (his last 3 to 5 games were atrocious though…). Contrary to Ilyasova the guy has vision and can do a lot of different things, he is a complete and versatile 4, and he seems to have the potential to be way better on the glass and defensive hand because he has the fighting spirit and attitude and just is not yet acclimated physically and is a rookie. I doubt he is a star but if he has not legitimate starter level in 2-3 years I would be shocked and blame the 76ers organisation. His talent is/was superior to several other euro guys in this league who competes, and clearly miles above Ilyasova’s.

Robert Covington shoots it very bad but he is the second best player in this team right now (among available players, injured Simmons and Noel are out of the equation) despite his shooting slump. He was an undrafted guy two years ago. That is good player development.

I would agree though that a lot of what Brett Brown does, especially giving TJ McConnell an extensive role like this, is at the very least suspect and I would say bad. I would admit that Sergio is not significantly more efficient than TJ (at least in the stat line… and they are probably both subpar at this level) but the 76ers play seem way more fluid and active with him on the floor which despite his atrocious defense is probably better to develop the other guys.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

you trade Okafor for veterans…

i’m just playing with the hand we have.  We have the Lakers pick, and we have our own…and we are not making the playoffs, and I don’t get any joy out of watching us beat the Wizards and Suns knowing that we are going to get our hineys handed to us by the better teams today.  I’d rather revel in the pits once more…maximize the draft potential that got us Simmons and Embiid, and let’s go for it and grab Josh Jackson.

We can pick up Lou Williams, Luol Deng, and Mozgov any time.  

 

You may not like the idea of tanking, but tanking got us our future.  The minutes restrictions is also a form of tanking.  Brett Brown is a form of tanking.  Not playing Embiid and Oak together is a form of tanking.  Failing to break the bank for solid vets is tanking.  They are doing it but just not as blatantly.

I need us to do it one more year, so I’m prepared to keep Embiid on minutes restrictions all year, rest Simmons foot if it means, our chances at landing the 1st or 2nd pick are high, and that is hugely elevated by our finishing worst in the league.  

Brooklyn can be better than us this year…I don’t mind.  This upcoming year we spend on Reddick and other bonafide guards.

I’ve already said this year we missed out on several guards that could have helped us….

Jeremy Lin, Bellinelli, Gary Neal etc.  Either our structure is bad, we can’t evaluate talent, or we are tanking this year too!!

One More Year

what do i care about finances, i think Josh Jackson will pay whoever deserves to be paid.  He owes it to the fans.

I think Josh Jackson, Ben Simmons, and Joel Embiid wins you multiple championships.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

[markfitz14Participant]

I just meant for the future. Might even wait to trade him at the draft. Oak plus lakers pick might get you a player that you really want. Or Oak plus lakers pick, plus the sixers pick if it lands #3 for the number one overall pick. I think this team is pretty much tanking as you said. They will surely get a top 5 pick. That will net them a legit player, I think an all star. You already will get a stud for sure. No need to lose as much as possibile. That is three great players to play around. 

[Magic JordanParticipant]

Ohhh man.  My boy Hype is going to love this one!

One more year!  What could it hurt?  

  

[r377Participant]

212 days to draft day. Since there is a Sixers draft thread created every second day, that means we should ONLY have another 100 or so Sixers draft threads to read until then……

[HitsterParticipant]

 I think their main wish is that Embiid stays sound over the next decade, if his cameos so far are anything to go by. Just been watching a few of his highlights and he seems to be hitting open 3’s for fun, teams just aren’t closing him down on the perimeter yet. Also one great play where he was at the 3 point line then suddenly accelerated to make an easy lay up.

[Sewok15Participant]

 As a Sixers fan who has watched the majority of their games…especially those that Embiid played I can say that isn’t exactly the case. The reason he is getting open 3’s is because he is a stretch 5. The stretch 4 is a big thing in today’s league but the stretch 5 is much more rare. Centers like Whiteside want to stay inside and protect the paint so they aren’t used to having to close out 24 feet on a 7-2 opponent.

Once he makes one or two in the game the teams start to close out on him and he will pump fake and put it on the floor. He is still lacking the coordination to take it all the way to the rim smoothly from that position but he has drawn a lot of fouls using his jumpshot to get around opponents. He even has made a few pump fake dribble pull up 18 footers off the three point threat. 

With his shooting ability mixed with his post game I think he truly has the potential to average 30 points a game in a few years…especially once Simmons is passing him the ball. That hasn’t been done by a big man since Moses Malone 35 years ago to my knowledge although Anthony Davis might do it this year. 

[MatosParticipant]

 Thought Shaq did but looks like he came close. But agree with this analysis. Embiid’s ability to play the 5 and  move/shoot the way he does is what will separate him. Thats why KAT has had so much success as well at this position. Will be scarier for Embiid when he plays with other good players drawing attention away from him.

[Hype Machine]

When we were young, we all had 2 specific friends.

 

The first friend that lived in a dillusional world and was full of total BS, and the other friend that was the only person dumb enough to actually believe it.

Listening to 76ers fans is exactly like listening to a conversation between those 2 idiots we remember as kids.

Prime example: The Blatant injury faking. Its so obvious to everyone….yet these 76ers fans actually believe their own BS. Remarkable!

 

 

[EndlessknightParticipant]

What injuries are they faking?

[binetParticipant]

 Hard to tell which one he specifically talks about but Nerlens’s injury is very suspicious and Jahlil’s also was. (Not that any of these non-Embiid logjam injuries matter tbh)

Simmons and Bayless injuries are legit though.

 

 

 

[Sewok15Participant]

 The way Jah was moving early in the season compared to now you could tell he wasn’t right. Also why would they fake a Nerlens injury…wouldn’t they want to play him and showcase him to other teams since he is likely on the trading block? 

[binetParticipant]

 To trade Jah and not Noel?

Or because it’s Noel’s decision to ‘fake it’ for whatever personal reason/discumfort with the team.

I am in the clan who believes they are actual injuries though…just pointing out the two ‘suspect’ ones.

 

 

[EndlessknightParticipant]

Noel had knee surgery, do you think he faked that?

[HitsterParticipant]

 If Noel was choosing to sit out then he isn’t doing his value any good, having missed his first season and now a large chunk of this one, his contract offers will not be so great. Apparently he has been sent to the 76ers D-League team to work his way back into shape which is good news.

The 76ers need to see him, Embiid and Okafor in rotation to decide which way to go with the roster. Can Noel and Embiid work together? Having Noel there means they can try Oak and Embiid together.

Simmons returning will be a bonus but I think he’ll be slotted in seperately when he returns. I think it will come down to Oak and Noel out of who they trade and with Noel being an RFA this summer they really need to decide by deadline day or they may have to let Noel walk next summer or make a decent offer to him.

Saric I think is definitely a keeper now as his contract is so cap friendly and he looks settled in rotation.

Thanks to Sewok for the Embiid feedback so +1 from me. If he is getting a few open 3 point shots then it is almost giving the 76ers gift points and if Embiid does draw opposing big men out then puts the ball on the floor he’ll be even more effective. That’s one reason why I want to see him and Oak in tandem, Oak plays paint and Embiid draws his defender out and it gives Embiid or say Simmonsw options to shoot, pass to Oak etc.

 

 

 

 

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

I don’t like it, he doesn’t get deep enoguh in the post as it is, so maybe its a weapon he can develop.  I went to his first preseason game, I can tell you that although its his "third year" in the NBA, the kid’s body is still developing.  He will get bigger, more coordinated, legs will get stronger, he will fill out his frame.  

Maybe until he gets stronger it’ll be nice for him to play "stretch 5", but as Shaq said on TV, the big guys don’t get deep enough.  Shaq I think is impressed by Embiid’s talent, Embiid definitely has more than 3 moves which is what he says is required for a big man to dominate.  The guy has more moves than Olajuwon let’s be honest and is 3 inches taller, he just needs to fill out his frame.  Although his footwork is great, I don’t think he has Olajuwon footwork.  Let’s just wait for that frame to develop.  Unlike Anthony Davis who I think is a guard in a bigman’s body….I think Embiid will get stronger and be able to dominate inside and outside, and is taller than Towns, so I think Embiid once he fills out will be the best big man in the game.

They should play together….the bigmen…I’d do it like this.  Play Oak and Embiid together to start and keep Covington’s bum off the floor.  Then have Noel come in and be your second unit stud defensive presence, and surround him with shooters.  

Saric is not a keeper to me.  He’s a good ballplayer, but he is undersized just like Thad Young was undersized defensively.  Saric is tired.  Let’s see how he does to start next year.  But he’s a 13 and 6 guy, and thats all we need out of him.  I just see a defensive mismatch everytime he is on the floor, just like when TJ McConnell and Nik Stauskas are on the floor, and even Ilyasova, oh and big Jah.

Brett Brown keeps contemplating his big situation.  He needs to not leave Oak stranded as a big man.  Okafor island is a holy mess.  He needs to play with Richuan Holmes for now who can shoot.  We don’t need all the guard play and spacing.  Use what we have.  We don’t need to play futuristic ball, let’s pound the other team.

 

 

 

 

  

[r377Participant]

Lets look at sixers lotto picks

2013 – 6 Noel – injury prone, skinny, limited offensively – on the trading block, not much real value or in the plans for sixers
11 – MCW after a few triple doubles and winning ROY, he gets a knife in the back as is gone

2014 – Embiid – looks very good but is still an injury risk which could happen at any minute and he can be the next sam bowie or greg oden.

Saric – has potential but has not started of late

2015 – 3 – Okafor. Not great defensively but is a very good offensive post scorer if used correctly. Is on the trading block, value is low compared to a number 3 pick ( no way a team gives up a future 3rd overall draft pick to get him). Not in sixers plans

2016 – Simmons has potential but is injured, unproven and not played.

So out of 6 lotto picks only 3 look to have any future or value with the sixers. Saric has potential, as does Simmons. Embiid could be great but is still an injury risk at this stage.

Not exactly Durant, Jeff Green, Westbrook and Harden like when the Thunder were rebuilding through the lottery….

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

#6 pick in 2013 via Trading Jrue Holiday, we wanted Olapido, Orlando jumped in and took him,only to give him away later for an old Ibaka, Nerlens was slotted to go higher before injury, we took the BPA and another Lottery Pick via New Orleans, that pick turns into Dario Saric and OUR unprotected 1st round Pick in 2017(Top 5 Lock)

That’s what we got from Nerlens Noel at 6, good value for Jrue Holiday and his shaky knees/big contract

Than our own Lottery pick in 2013 WINS the ROTY award and we turn him into a Top 15 pick in this Draft Class, what exactly has MCW done to prove us wrong in that Deal? Are you seriously saying would should have forfeited a shot at drafting Wiggins/Parker/Embiid in 2014 or Towns/Russell/Okafor in 2015? You’d have built your team around MCW instead of trying to add pieces around the a pairing Of Embiid/KAT and Big Ben (because that’s what Hinkle was going for when he tried his hardest to land consecutive #1 Picks)

Again he gambled, lost out of a potential top 7 pick last year, and may only have netted a Top 15 pick via LA and Phoenix, the Bucks didn’t fall in love with MCW and I’m sure they would have loved to add a Top 15 pick in this draft as opposed to the rights to Tony Snell 

Again, injuries happen, bad luck happens, the ping pong balls don’t always land in your favor unless your named the Cleveland Cavaliers * cough

Hinkie legit went for "It" by attempting to land Wiggins/KAT/Simmons in back to back draft class, with Nerlens and Dario as the rotating Big Men

Would remaining loyal to guys like Holiday, MCW, Tony Wroten or Ish Smith been a better option than the One he took…

Books should be written by the character assassination they pulled with Sam Hinkie, I trust this process, it’s landed us at least 2 very Highly Rated Prospects in Embiid and Simmons, with the potential to land another in this draft as well, not to mention the services/rights to several other solid prospects in Saric, Okafor, Noel and even Stauskas, who he fleeced Sacramento for

Come back and talk to me in 5 years whenthey’re competition is clamoring to play with a Prime Ben and Joel dou, with any combo of talented team mates already in the fold…

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[MopgrassParticipant]

 Their wish list should be 1) PG 2) SG 3) SF. Every other starting quality player they have is a PF or C (5 guys). Noel or Okafor needs to net them a starter. I do like Luwawu in 3 years. Lots of potential, just not a starter yet. 

I agree that Josh Jackson is THE prospect of a good draft. If they can get him, they should take him. Other than that, a PG who works more like a SG would be useful because Simmons will handle the ball as a PF. Therefore, Malik Monk would fit nicely. 

Don’t bet on great pick from the Lakers. They lost a few games since they were struck by injuries, but I think they win about 52-53% of their games. 

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

is due to them being energetic and young with some nice vets.  I am hoping they fall back to 7 – 12 which is pretty much where they belong with the other squads of their talent.  They’re young guys not conditioned for the NBA grind for the most part so let’s see….I hope.

Malik Monk would be a nice player to play off of Simmons but I want a guy that can slash.  This kid Ferguson playing overseas is intriguing.  Monk has to show he has some Kyrie type skills to break down defenders and not just rely on his inconsistent shot and athleticism.

The fact that Monk is only 6’3” is troubling too.  But I love his ability to get air.  Its sick.  Reminds me of Jordanesque floating in air.  Lavine’s floating is a little less impressive because he is more streamlined, there is no patience in his jumping ability.  Lavine is a 100 or 0 type of guy.  Monk has showed some poise, even in the way he jumps!  Interesting?

I like Luwawu too, he just needs some real coaching.  It was interesting that Hinkie was talking about how difficult it is to find agood big man coach.  He recognized that this team desperately needs that.  They just need better player development overall, or maybe promote brown to player development guru which is all he is good at and let the in game stuff go to someone else, like a genius like Larry Brown, or let’s try out Reggie Miller his ability to teach is really impressive, or let’s jsut bring back Jeff Van Gundy.  I want someone with more experience leading this team.  

 

 

  

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

is due to them being energetic and young with some nice vets.  I am hoping they fall back to 7 – 12 which is pretty much where they belong with the other squads of their talent.  They’re young guys not conditioned for the NBA grind for the most part so let’s see….I hope.

Malik Monk would be a nice player to play off of Simmons but I want a guy that can slash.  This kid Ferguson playing overseas is intriguing.  Monk has to show he has some Kyrie type skills to break down defenders and not just rely on his inconsistent shot and athleticism.

The fact that Monk is only 6’3” is troubling too.  But I love his ability to get air.  Its sick.  Reminds me of Jordanesque floating in air.  Lavine’s floating is a little less impressive because he is more streamlined, there is no patience in his jumping ability.  Lavine is a 100 or 0 type of guy.  Monk has showed some poise, even in the way he jumps!  Interesting?

I like Luwawu too, he just needs some real coaching.  It was interesting that Hinkie was talking about how difficult it is to find agood big man coach.  He recognized that this team desperately needs that.  They just need better player development overall, or maybe promote brown to player development guru which is all he is good at and let the in game stuff go to someone else, like a genius like Larry Brown, or let’s try out Reggie Miller his ability to teach is really impressive, or let’s jsut bring back Jeff Van Gundy.  I want someone with more experience leading this team.  

 

 

  

[sportspolymathParticipant]

 Would be a nice mix.

[binetParticipant]

 With Brett Brown announcing Simmons as a PG that changes a lot.

I also think the Lakers pick would not be that high and I am starting to think Harry Giles will be the right pick, given that Simmons is not viewed as a PF anymore and the 76ers is probably one of the less reluctant franchise to take a prospect with that injury history. I also think once they give up on both Okafor and Noel (which seems very likely) he would be a very nice fit for them to play both 4 alongside Embiid and 5 alongside Saric.

If the Simmons PG experiment is a success that means the sixers actual pick (or Sacramento’s with pick swap) should be spent on a wing, preferrably a 2 given their current squad. I think Fultz can play the 2 and perhaps be even more successful there but let’s be honest he probably ends up number one and the sixers can’t win every lottery.Malik Monk seems like another great fit. As good a prospect he is, I think Josh Jackson is a bad fit as he is neither a great shooter neither a great go-to-guy in the making or secondary ballhandler and probably is better as a SF.  Same concerns with Tatum. Next Ntilikina can probably play as a 2 (he clearly is playing as a SG most of the time in France) but I am very suspicious of his talent since his role is not even close to what Tony Parker was at his age, his shot seems good though. I am not sure below that I would be confident anybody is a better prospect than Furkan Korkmaz.

I think with Simmons-Saric and a playmaking shooting guard (like Fultz or Monk), the team’s identity and playstle should develop more into passing and creativity which is great.

 

 

[r377Participant]

In the past 4 years of tanking the Sixers have had 6 lotto picks and are still one of the worst teams in the league !! In those 4 years they have had approx. 20 draft selections !! That’s nearly as many as the Philadelphia Eagles….

What happens IF / WHEN Embiid gets injured ?

All you would have is Noel (who will be elsewhere next season), Okafor (who is worth 30cents in the dollar) Simmons (who is unproven and currently injured) and Saric (who is currently playing like a borderline starter). Then what happens after their rookie contracts expire ? they could maybe keep Simmons or Saric – I highly doubt with the Sixers track record that they would be able to keep both players.

They would need another 3 or 4 seasons before they could make the playoffs. Even a broken clock gets it right twice a day and with 100 draft picks they should realistically be able to make the playoffs in 2019 or 2020 but they would definitely not be a contender.

They last made the playoffs and got to the second round in 2012, so that will be approx. 8 years of pain and suffering (not to mention poor ticket sales) and they won’t really be any better off. I highly doubt they will be able to make the Eastern Conference Finals.

Was the 8 years of pain really worth it ?

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