[blink3ebfanParticipant]

Just spitting out couple ideas here. The sixers still need to move salary if they want to move forward in the near future (3-4 years). To do so they need to trade the salaries of Iggy and Brand. Here are a couple of ideas

Sixers: Brand, Iggy
Milwaukee: Redd, Gadzuric, Ilyasova and a future 1st rounder

Sixers move their long term contracts while adding a young player and a 1st rounder. They build around their young core and will be bad enough to have another high draft pick. Next summer they will have cap space with the expiring contracts coming off and a lot of young talent. They would have enough cap space to potentially sign two big time free agents to add to their young talent. The bucks add a player to compliment Jennings and Bogut. They need to make trades to attract talent since no big time free agents really want to go to Milwaukee because well its Milwaukee. They still however will be about 10-12 million under the cap entering next summer so they could also attract a big free agent. I don’t think Milwaukee would do this because they don’t want to take on Brands contract but adding a talent like Iggy comes with some sacrifice.

Sixers: Brand
Detroit: Rip Hamilton, Chris Wilcox

Sixers: Iggy, Lou Williams
Dallas: Butler, Stevenson, Roddy Buckets future 1st rounder

First trade is trash contract for trash contract but both players are better fits for the team they are being traded to. Plus the sixers save about 5 million the next summer. The second trade is to acquire expiring contracts as well as a young talent in exchange for Iggy. Dallas will take on salary and although they really like Roddy, Iggy would be a great second fiddle to Dirk (assuming he stays around).

Moving forward with a core of Jrue, Young, Speights, HIgh draft pick from this year and next and whatever young player we receive in a trade along with all the cap space that we will have next summer is the best approach if the sixers hope to compete within the near future.

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

That trade would be good for The Bucks but everyone hates big contracts and Brands is one of the worse…they probably would jump on the Iggy idea but it isn’t worth it for the Sixers…Ilya and a Future 1st…More like Ilyasova/Gadzuric/This years 1st and next years 1st/ then they get two young picks a shooter for when Kapono leaves and cap relief when Gadz/Sammy/Green/Kapono come off books …but it will be considered a pure salary dump…and not the one we need this year…Brand is the guy that needs to be moved or released(I think we’ll bite the bullet 1 year and thats it…not sure it could happen though)

Would rather Trade Iggy to Wolves/Grizzles for young talent and picks…

Iggy/J.Smith and future 1st for Mayo/Thabeet and 12th pick

[blink3ebfanParticipant]

The bucks would have to take on Brands contract. They don’t have that much young desirable talent that they would be willing to trade to trade for iggy alone. 2 mid to late first rounders and Ilyasova isn’t enough for Iggy. The Bucks would be well served to acquire someone of value with Redds and Gadzuric’s expiring deals. Though Brands contract is pretty hard to swallow, getting someone of Iggys ilk to compliment their two stars is the best they can hope for.

As far as the trade you proposed, not sure if the money works but I wouldn’t touch Thabeet at all. I think he’s a huge bust that won’t amount to anything in the league. Plus I don’t want to give away future first rounders because I don’t think they have the talent yet to compete immediately. Maybe OJ Mayo, Marc Gasol and Marko Jaric’s expiring contract (plus Adrianna Lima) for Iggy

The wolves have some players that I really like in Love and Rubio but I don’t think they’d trade either of those guys. They do seem to want to move Jefferson whom I like as well and wouldn’t be opposed to a Jefferson for Iggy trade straight up.

[ZZAA4433Participant]

The bottom line is that Ed Stefanski is in love with the Andre Iguodala and also doesn’t want to concede that he was wrong about bringing Elton Brand in. Therefore, nothing’s going to get done in the immediate future, not because it can’t, but because Stefanski is a dumbass, and it won’t. If Stefanski get’s fired, then everything’s subject to change, and moves like these could potentially be made. The future of Iggy and Brand hinges upon the future of Stefanski. What I’m personally more concerned about as a Sixers fan is this love affair that our people have developed with Jrue Holiday. Don’t get me wrong, Jrue played well this season, but are you prepared to hand him the keys to the Sixers future, with little-to-no long term help? The thought of him going against the likes of Deron Williams, Steve Nash, Derek Rose, Chris Paul, Rajon Rondo, Stephen Curry and Russell Westbrook as our leading guard on a nightly basis for 35-40 minutes a night makes me ill.

If the Sixers want to turn things around, the bottom line is that Stefanski needs to go, and they need to make this coaching hiring last more then an effing season. Both the new GM and coach need to possess a long term vision and not have any affinity to players currently on the team. This draft pick is crucial as well. Past Wall and Turner, it’s such a crap shoot it’s insane. It’s a shame that the Sixers didn’t have this pick in last season’s draft, where the guard pool was deep and plentiful. How bout giving Aaron McKie or Eric Snow an interview for HC?

[blink3ebfanParticipant]

I agree that Stefanski has made some awful decisions but I think he is more competent than people give him credit for. Everyone praised the creativity and guile he used to sign Brand. It didn’t work out but at the time it seemed like the right move. The sixers needed a low post threat and Brand was a 20-10 beast for a lot of years. Unfortunatly Brand hasn’t worked out and Iguodala hasn’t developed a consistant jumper that would allow him to move to the 2 and play alongside Young.

As far as Jrue, we really have to be patient with him. I HATED the pick when we made it because I thought he was vastly overratted after watching him at UCLA. I wanted them to draft Budinger or Lawson, but after watching him develop this year its clear he has a whole lot of potential. He has a lot of the qualities of the guys you mentioned. He’s tall and long with good athletisism, lock- down defender, good vision and is a hard worker. He’s still just a pup but he could be really special down the road. Don’t forget he was the youngest player in the league last year. I think at worst he could guard the hell out of the guys you mentioned. At best his offensive game continues to devlop and he is on par with the Pauls and Williams’ of the league. He has that much potential.

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

not the flashiest or most graceful on offense but I saw plays that outta Jrue that screamed star…He also locked Curry down both times they played each other…the love affair fans should be sick of is the Curry thing…Overrated and playing in a shooters playground…If he was on a normal NBA team he would be exposed…Who can Curry really defend or score against in a half court game with the best athletes in the world…Jrue will be better than Curry/Lawson/Collison/John Wall(yeah I said it) and all the other pg’s of that class…dont get me started on Rubio….

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