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  • #59671
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    Tankenstein
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    If the Sixers win the top pick and were to trade down to 3, what kind of compensation might they recieve? What player(s) on the Knicks, Wolves, Magic, etc. might be included in such a deal?

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  • #975902
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    There is 65 more days to the draft.  I can guarantee there will be at least another 32 Sixers Draft threads going by draft day….

    To answer your question there is no clear cut no 1 at this stage so I am not sure that this would actually happen

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  • #975742
    r377r377
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    There is 65 more days to the draft.  I can guarantee there will be at least another 32 Sixers Draft threads going by draft day….

    To answer your question there is no clear cut no 1 at this stage so I am not sure that this would actually happen

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    • #975908
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       Assume for this exercise that Towns is the clear cut 1, followed by Okafor, Mudiay and Russel in that order. In the Chris Webber draft night trade the Warriors sent 3 future 1’s and Penny to the Magic. Such trades are rare, and I doubt the Sixers would pass on the BPA–even if it’s a big–despite having Embiid and Noel in the fold. If they did, however, deal the top pick, I imagine it would be a similar haul.

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    • #975748
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      Tankenstein
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       Assume for this exercise that Towns is the clear cut 1, followed by Okafor, Mudiay and Russel in that order. In the Chris Webber draft night trade the Warriors sent 3 future 1’s and Penny to the Magic. Such trades are rare, and I doubt the Sixers would pass on the BPA–even if it’s a big–despite having Embiid and Noel in the fold. If they did, however, deal the top pick, I imagine it would be a similar haul.

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      • #975944
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        HinkieAndFalk
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        the thing is if sixers would love a deal like that and if we land one or two in the draft we win the first two selection are gold ppl are projecting okafor to go second .you can get a legit kings ransom for okafor hes still first on a lot of gm big board.
        I prefer Russell over eman I see Russell as a brandon roy/curry player and hes younger then curry and roy when they entered draft. so he has the upside. eman might have more but after im not taking a pg this high who cant shoot.

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      • #975784
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        HinkieAndFalk
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        the thing is if sixers would love a deal like that and if we land one or two in the draft we win the first two selection are gold ppl are projecting okafor to go second .you can get a legit kings ransom for okafor hes still first on a lot of gm big board.
        I prefer Russell over eman I see Russell as a brandon roy/curry player and hes younger then curry and roy when they entered draft. so he has the upside. eman might have more but after im not taking a pg this high who cant shoot.

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  • #975904
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    Ebown5
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    I would say that there is nothing that any of those teams could trade for it to make sense, unless Orlando ended up at 3 and would include Olidipo, but I doubt that they would.

    You don’t pass up Towns unless you are blown out of the water with a deal.

    The Knicks truly have nothing. The Twolves wouldn’t trade Wiggins. The Lakers have Randle, but I don’t see the Lakers including him. See the problem is that there would need to be a deal agreeable by both teams. The Lakers would be better off staying at 3, and pairing Randle with Mudiay/Russell.

    The only way that I could really see it working would be if the team in the 3rd spot could somehow obtain another pick in the top 10, and then traded it and a future protected pick to move up. Let’s say the Twolves were able to trade Lavine to someone for the 8th or 9th pick. They could then trade 3 and 8/9 plus a future top 5 10 protected pick for number 1. Of course this would be complicated by the fact that they already owe future first rounders to people.

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  • #975744
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    I would say that there is nothing that any of those teams could trade for it to make sense, unless Orlando ended up at 3 and would include Olidipo, but I doubt that they would.

    You don’t pass up Towns unless you are blown out of the water with a deal.

    The Knicks truly have nothing. The Twolves wouldn’t trade Wiggins. The Lakers have Randle, but I don’t see the Lakers including him. See the problem is that there would need to be a deal agreeable by both teams. The Lakers would be better off staying at 3, and pairing Randle with Mudiay/Russell.

    The only way that I could really see it working would be if the team in the 3rd spot could somehow obtain another pick in the top 10, and then traded it and a future protected pick to move up. Let’s say the Twolves were able to trade Lavine to someone for the 8th or 9th pick. They could then trade 3 and 8/9 plus a future top 5 10 protected pick for number 1. Of course this would be complicated by the fact that they already owe future first rounders to people.

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  • #975926
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    wonzi_bells
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    Flipping a top pick to get a dream haul in draft picks is a very "NFL Draft-like" ideology. It flatout doesn’t happen in the NBA anymore and even when it did, it was rare. Tankenstein did mentioned the Webber-Hardaway trade that netted the Magic three extra draft picks (one that turned out to be Vince Carter btw) but that came with other caveates like there not being a rookie scale back in the day with rookies in the 90s being able to command the top dollar of the day without ever suiting up and owners not wanting to pay them that and the fact that Webber is one of the three most sought after draft prospects in that decade along with Shaquille O’Neal and Tim Duncan so the Warriors thought it was worth it. Now, while Karl-Anthony Towns is, by all means, the consensus top pick in this year’s draft, he isn’t so far ahead of the other top prospects as if he was considered a LeBron James or Anthony Davis-type prospect. Like if New York got the number three pick and had to settle for Mudiay, even though let’s say hypothetically really wanted Towns, he’s not so far ahead of Mudiay where I’d start giving assets away. Like if I’m Minnesota I wouldn’t give up LaVine and a possible picks #2 through #4 for the number one, even if you replaced LaVine with Dieng I wouldn’t do it. The Lakers shouldn’t do that with Clarkson or Randle. The Magic would maybe do that with Harris but certainly not Oladipo or Payton. And if the 76ers aren’t getting anything worth while, then what’s the point. Maybe mid-to-late first rounders or future lottery protected picks but nothing substantial. 

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  • #975766
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    Flipping a top pick to get a dream haul in draft picks is a very "NFL Draft-like" ideology. It flatout doesn’t happen in the NBA anymore and even when it did, it was rare. Tankenstein did mentioned the Webber-Hardaway trade that netted the Magic three extra draft picks (one that turned out to be Vince Carter btw) but that came with other caveates like there not being a rookie scale back in the day with rookies in the 90s being able to command the top dollar of the day without ever suiting up and owners not wanting to pay them that and the fact that Webber is one of the three most sought after draft prospects in that decade along with Shaquille O’Neal and Tim Duncan so the Warriors thought it was worth it. Now, while Karl-Anthony Towns is, by all means, the consensus top pick in this year’s draft, he isn’t so far ahead of the other top prospects as if he was considered a LeBron James or Anthony Davis-type prospect. Like if New York got the number three pick and had to settle for Mudiay, even though let’s say hypothetically really wanted Towns, he’s not so far ahead of Mudiay where I’d start giving assets away. Like if I’m Minnesota I wouldn’t give up LaVine and a possible picks #2 through #4 for the number one, even if you replaced LaVine with Dieng I wouldn’t do it. The Lakers shouldn’t do that with Clarkson or Randle. The Magic would maybe do that with Harris but certainly not Oladipo or Payton. And if the 76ers aren’t getting anything worth while, then what’s the point. Maybe mid-to-late first rounders or future lottery protected picks but nothing substantial. 

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    • #975930
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      PhillySteve
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       Hey wait a minute, the Sixers have a history of dealing the top pick and getting nothing in return….

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    • #975770
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      PhillySteve
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       Hey wait a minute, the Sixers have a history of dealing the top pick and getting nothing in return….

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    • #975932
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      kdtriv01
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       I was fully on board with your line of thinking until you said, "The Lakers shouldn’t do that with Clarkson or Randle."  While I agree with your point about Randle, Clarkson is not someone that would stop me from trading for a top pick. The rest of the players mentioned are real assets. If Philly would take Clarkson and the number 3 for the top pick, I would take it and run and pray no one noticed I just committed robbery.

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    • #975772
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       I was fully on board with your line of thinking until you said, "The Lakers shouldn’t do that with Clarkson or Randle."  While I agree with your point about Randle, Clarkson is not someone that would stop me from trading for a top pick. The rest of the players mentioned are real assets. If Philly would take Clarkson and the number 3 for the top pick, I would take it and run and pray no one noticed I just committed robbery.

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