I myself am a Sixers fan and I know there are many others on here. I was just wondering what you all would like the Sixers to do before the trade deadline and also draft in this years loaded draft.
I wouldn't mind seeing them move Turner and Hawes since they are on the last year of their deals. They aren't going to get anything huge in return but I was hoping maybe Jeremy Lamb could be had for the right deal. I hope they hang onto Thad even though he has more value than anyone on their roster (outside of MCW). He plays hard and does things the right way...he is a great guy to teach the younger guys and he is also a highly productive player.
I would like to see them then get a top 3 pick and draft either 1. Wiggins 2. Embiid or 3. Parker....then with the Pelicans pick around 12th get a player that can stretch the floor. James Young or Zach LaVine would be my dream scenario for their 2nd pick but it is likely that both those guys will be gone. I would say Doug McDermott could fit on this Sixers team with his scoring ability. Other options with the 2nd pick would be potential replacements for Thad down the road with Aaron Gordon (who I think will be gone by 12th as well) or maybe Noah Vonleh.
I'd like to see Parker, Wiggins, Randle on the Sixers in that order with their own pick and maybe grab Gary Harris or James Young with the Pelicans pick. As for the trade deadline I think there are two untouchables in MCW and Noel. I think they need to see what they can get out of Hawes, Turner, and Young and go from there. Outside of those 3 trade assets they really don't have a whole lot, but Young has been playing great, Hawes is a decent big man, and Turner still has a lot of talent. I think it'll be an interesting trade deadline with teams trying to get a little worse in order to get a better pick.
I agree with trading Turner, Hawes, and Young. If there was any way possible to get John Henson I would do that. In my opinion the Sixers should go into the offseason with just MCW, Noel, Wroten and whatever young players they pick up through trade. They need to get all they can in trades for the remaining players under contract which I believe iis just Moultrie and Richardson if he uses his option. They just need to start fresh, young, and work on building a defensive powerhouse. As far as the draft is concerned Parker should be the hopeful pick, but if he's not there then Wiggins, Randle, Smart, Embiid, or Exum could work.
Moultrie is the forgotten man. I have no idea what we have with him. I hardly saw him play at all last year. I wouldn't trade him simply because he is cheap, we need to see him play more, and he wouldn't have much value.
If another team wants him as a sweetener in a good deal then so be it, but he is a pure prospect with good size. Let's give him a chance.
My dream draft would be Parker with the Sixer first pick and Vonleh with the Pelican pick. I really like Vonleh's game and think he would fit in nicely with Noel at center, Parker at SF MCW at point and Turner at SG if he's still here. I'd also consider Gordon with the Pelican pick if Vonleh isn't there.
I too love Vonleh, but in my response below, I think Randle is more of a sure thing and will make Philly a playoff team much sooner than later.
As far as trading, I think they would get better value waiting till the off-season, rather than feeling pressured to have to accept just any deal now. Turner is a rfa, and any trans interested in him may be willing to do a sign and trade this off-season. Same for Hawes, who may gather more interest during the off-season. Another benefit to waiting, Philly will also have option if resigning any of them. If they can resign Hawes at a great deal, wouldn't you? He can start until Noel is ready, then he'll be a great backup to him. Young as well, I'll wait till the off-season.
I on the other hand would like to see them pursue Eric Gordon. We know they need a shooter, but I don't feel too comfortable hoping to get Young or Levine in the draft. What if they aren't available? What if Philly doesn't get NO's pick? If so, they have more pressing needs than getting a shooter. Gordon can be had just for an expiring deal and Philly has cap space to absorb him.
Unless they can get Wiggins or Parker, I think they just go after Randle. Let's assume the worst. Noel never develops an offensive game. In that case, you need to put a scorer next to him in the front court. Randle fits perfectly with him. If they do get NO's pick, I think Philly almost has to package the picks to move up for him. Gordon would then solve the need for a shooter. Either way, Philly now has options. Young can play sf, Turner can be dealt to solve other issues. Hawes can be retained to start or backup Noel.
Philly can be in the perfect position to be both a playoff team, yet have a lot of room for growth.
My dream draft would be Embiid and James Young, followed by Wiggins and Vonleh. I am intrigued by Zach Lavine for the second pick, and would love Aaron Gordon too.
On the trade front, I am willing to trade any,or all, of Young, Turner and Hawes, but I think that we should make sure that we get value.
If we can't get first round picks of any sort for Hawes and Turner then I would probably just hold on to them until the summer and potentially let them go for nothing. I think that we should be able to get picks for them though even if they are protected and not this year.
Thaddeus Young concerns me a bit more since he is the player(outside of MCW) that is most likely to make us win too many games this year and I don't want to mess up our chance at a top pick. That is pretty much the only reason that I would want to trade him. He has a reasonable contract and is versatile enough to fit in with our team going forward. I want REAL value for him if I trade him and I think that he has real value.
If we get a really good offer for him then let him go, but I would need more than just a mid first round pick this year for him.
I would also be open to signing Hawes to reasonable contract if possible in the offseason as he has shown himself to be a very good role player in the NBA by this point in his career. He is a terrific three point shooter. When his feet are set and he is open he seems to make 4 out of 5 of his threes. He isn't very physical, but he has shown the ability to rebound and defend a bit too. I think that he would be a great compliment to Noel and Embiid.
I don't think that Turner should be resigned in the offseason primarily because he will want(and get) more money than we should be paying him. He isn't a great shooter or defender so I don't like him with MCW. I think that he could really excel on plenty of nba teams though especially teams without strong point guards. He is a very good ball handler and scorer and could be a point forward, or dare I say it, a point guard for a good team.
If I was a Sixers fan I would have a hard time just dumping Hawes, Young, and Turner for slim to nothing. Of the three I would make keeping Young a priority he really has improved and is versatile. Don't you guys think that Turner and Hawes would be able to get something worth while in return?
I would love for my Sixers to trade Thad for a late first.. Sign Et for about 4 years 40 million. Then draft Embid and with the pelicans pick Lavine
I'm an avid NBA fan and watch a lot of ball, haven't really watched enough of the Sixers to breakdown their players skillsets in detail. But I have always been a Thad fan. Why does there not seem to be much love? Is it simply because he is an unrestricted free agent. He really has improved this year, last I checked it also seemed he was shooting decent from the line where he normally struggles. I know he is somewhat of a tweener but he is athletic, plays good defense and can guard multiple positions. He also is a solid shooter even though his jump shot is inconsistent. Unless I am way off with my assessment I would rather keep him than trade him for a late first. He shouldn't command too much money and depending on who your squad drafts he could start or come off the bench and play multiple positions.
I think Evan Turner is a good player. Looking forward though I don't see him there long term, he is a good creator at the 2 and MCW will create plenty. Hawes isn't bad either, I think he has reached his peak though. If I had to pick only one of the 3 to keep long term I without a doubt would try and re-sign Thad. I don't see a reason why they couldn't at least try to sign both Turner and Thad though. One of them could always be traded in the future in the event that MCW, Noel and whoever they draft this year is going to command more money than they have available.
I really like the Sixers, I balled out with them on 2k last year. Appreciate if you Philly fans co!uld let me know if right on, or out of my mind! Thanks.
Your overall assessment is correct but you are off on the details. The most important being that Thad Young is not going to be a free agent this summer. He may not even be a free agent next summer unless he chooses to and leaves the last 10 million dollars of his current contract on the table. He signed a 5 year deal worth 43 million dollars in 2011. He is pretty much worth right around that amount considering he is right around a top 10 power forward but nowhere near top 5. He is making right around what Paul Milsap, Derrick Favors and Serge Ibaka are getting. Greg Monroe will sign for around 10-12 million a year this summer as well judging by these other contracts.
I wouldn't trade Thad just to trade him because he is a high motor and high character player. He brings it defensively every night and is a good veteran to have moving forward with these young guys. Now if a deal presents itself that you can't turn down that would include at least two young prospects or draft picks you have to look at it.