Last couple drafts, the Lakers have drafted a few 1st round talents with their 2nd round picks (Ebanks, Caracter, Morris). With the last pick of this year's draft, should they take a chance on Sidney (who'll most likely be available there), a top 10 talent but with serious character issues and poor conditioning?
I can see the headline now:
"Bynum and Sidney's fight over rebound turns into actual fight on floor."
No one should take a chance on him. Cant stand the guy. How can you have so much talent and just not care at all?
I say yes. Its the end of the 2nd round. if you play it safe that player wont make the team 50% of the time. If he has talent just develp him in the D league to drop that 22% body fat
They could take Sidney and sign Yancy Gates. Then go find DJ Mbenga to teach them jujitsu (he is a black belt) and they could have one of the meanest benches in the league.
Can keep anyone in check.
The last thing this guy needs is to have some one pay him to play ball. Let him work at Walmart for a year while he contemplates his new Real life. Maybe that will be enough motivation to change his attitude and get his Fat a$$ in great shape.
As big as a head case as he is, he could still find a place in the league if he showed discipline enough to get in shape. He hasnt shown anything as of yet to prove that he belongs on a team. That could change if his attitude does...but he just has too much baggage. Its one thing to be an off the court problems, but to couple that with lack of desire on court is another thing. If I was a GM, I would pass.
I don't see why Lakers would draft him last. They could just not pick him and sign him with their NBDL team. If he shows progress he can move up if not, he can move on.
Whats the worst that can happen he ends up like most late 2nd rounders
They took Derrick Caracter and Sidney is more talented , so I don't think it is out of the question one bit. Even though Sidney doesn't deserve to be drafted by anyone.
The Lakers no, I don't think their coaching situation is stable enough for a guy like Sidney. The best team to take a chance on him would be the Celtics if they can re-sign Garnett. Garnett is known for keeping people in line, and Rivers has a history of getting production from unmotivated players.
Guys like Sidney repulse. His fatass doesn't deserve to be drafted.
Any team in the later part of the 2nd round should take a chance on him. Most likely whoever you take mid to late 2nd won't pan out anyways, so why not take the risk when there is immense upside. You never know what may happen. It might finally click for him....
With the talent he has, I'd say draft him at the very end of the draft and add him to your summer league team to have him work for you and see what he is capable of. But drafting him is not compulsory as you can get him in your summer league team but by drafting him you have kind of a guarantee that he'll play for your team. Anyway it's still less useless than drafting Chuchu Maduabum or Targuy Ngombo (I love David Kahn for that haha). He might be (I say MIGHT) that kind of guy who once he's in the NBA starts to understand that he is not the focus of attention and that getting playing time is no guarantee and therefore starts to work his a$$ out to improve. Starting at pick 50 it's the kind of low risk high reward pick.
I think it's better to draft him late than let him go undrafted, the last thing he needs is to put in a strong showing in the Summer League and have teams fighting for his services. Kid needs a reality check, better to force him to play for one team than give him more freedom, if he's ever going to be humbled.
I think there are mental problems there. Discipline issues are severe. Give him money I see more problems. Bring his attitude to your team=More problems. I would stay away. Maybe bring him to summer L and see how he competes.
"a top 10 talent but with serious character issues and poor conditioning?"
Top 10 talent is a bit of exaggeration...
I really don't get what the point of drafting him would be. He would just sit on the end of the bench the entire season and not be in the rotation. Until he grows up he should not be on anyones roster.
I can't see any talent, all that fat is in the way
“They took Derrick Caracter and Sidney is more talented , so I don't think it is out of the question one bit. Even though Sidney doesn't deserve to be drafted by anyone.”
Derrick Caracter was a better player at UTEP than Sidney was at Mississippi State, got himself in better shape leading up to the draft, and kept his nose clean in the year and a half leading up to the draft (and the truth of the matter is that he didn’t really do anything all that terrible at Louisville other than being an immature kid). Things were looking good for Caracter. The problem was that when he wasn’t playing, he slacked off the preparation and conditioning that got him the Lakers to give him a look. The fact that he didn’t keep up at the level of professionalism leading up to the draft made it easier for the Lakers to release him in mid-season when he was carrying extra weight while coming off a knee injury. It saved them around $1million in salary and tax, and that is a tough cost to justify for an injured 15th man. Caracter is going to end up with some team’s Summer League roster, and one would think given that he had a very good summer in 2010 and strong close to the NBDL season in Idaho that he could still play himself into a training camp invite.
Renardo Sidney is a different situation. His upside isn’t that high. What is the upside of taking someone who can’t help you on the court now, and has never shown the discipline and work ethic to get his body capable of getting to that point? That isn’t worth giving a guy the $430K minimum much less a draft pick. The major problem is that he was in worse shape leading up to his third year than he was in his first (when he was ineligible) or second (when he did well for someone who was overweight), and could not even play himself into shape as the year went on. He is 22, and is the same age as the majority of college seniors. At that age, he ought to have more than a resume that reads of one-half season of good play in lesser minutes as a redshirt freshman and two and a half years of red flags.
Also, and actually quite important, who wants to turn their second round pick into a night of bad PR? A team that would draft him would instantly see the clip on the draft show of his brawl and then replayed on every local news segment and mentioned in every local newspaper. It will then be followed with a mention of his 304 lbs. trip to the scale and the 22 percent body fat measure. It is also why I would be stunned if Tu Holloway and Yancy Gates get drafted despite probably being talented enough to be picked. Nobody has forgotten the Xavier-Cincy brawl, and the video and audio hasn’t even gotten dusty yet. If a scout, GM, or coach likes him, they can invite him to their summer league and not face any bad press for it. If by early-to-mid-July he is in good enough shape to play 20 summer league minutes and do so reasonably well, then they can invite him to training camp as a no risk tryout. If not, I would fully be behind a team keeping an eye on him if he goes to the NBDL, loses weight, and starts to play well but why invest in him before he shows any reason to believe that he deserves it?
"Top 10 talent is a bit of exaggeration..."
Not really. He was ranked ahead of Wall in his HS class before he packed on the pounds. Even at his size he's still a passable athlete with great skill and touch. If he was around 10% body fat with no character issues I'm fairly certain he'd go top 3.
"Not really. He was ranked ahead of Wall in his HS class before he packed on the pounds. Even at his size he's still a passable athlete with great skill and touch. If he was around 10% body fat with no character issues I'm fairly certain he'd go top 3."
But he is now 22 years old, at 22 percent body fat, with character issues, and this past year played all of 22 minutes per game. That is a more telling part of the equation than how he was regarded when he was 16 or 17.
I know all of that. I was giving a best case 'what if' scenario. I never said the guy should even be drafted.