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Should the Lakers admit defeat and start over?

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Should the Lakers admit defeat and start over?

Should the Lakers admit their roster is too old an trade some pieces for next years draft picks? Try to maybe get a lottery pick or two and hope we get lucky an can draft Wiggins, Parker, maybe even Smart an build from that? I'm a die hard Lakers fan I just don't think these pieces work like we thought they would.


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No team is gonna give the

No team is gonna give the Lakers a 2014 lotto pick for Nash, Gasol, or MWP. Best bet is to trade Gasol to a team that still sees his value like Minnesota and try to get some assets like Derrick Williams or this years #9 pick. Maybe you could move Nash to Toronto for obvious reasons and try to pick up one of their young wings. Resign Howard and hope Kobe is able to recover from injury. You would then have a playoff team with some youth and some assets. Much better outlook than their current state.

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Dwight

Sign an trade Howard I don't believe he is worth a max contract anymore. .surely some will give u lotto picks for him maybe a three way trade an hope u end up with two top five picks. Its better then being the 7th seed again with no hope next year after the seaso.

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ESPN should start a LAKERS

ESPN should start a LAKERS TRADE MACHINE.

What about a blockbuster deal with the Kings?

Dwight Howard, Pau Gasol, Jordan Hill, Steve Blake, Jodie Meeks plus picks to the Kings for DeMarcus Cousins, Tyreke Evans,
Chuck Hayes, John Salmons, and Jason Thompson?

The Lakers roll the dice big time but can get a core of Kobe, Cousins, Nash, MWP, and Tyreke Evans with Jason Thompson as the
new power forward with Chuck Hayes off the bench.

The Kings get rid of contracts and build around Dwight Howard, their pick (maybe Oladipo or Trey Burke), Isaiah Thomas, Jimmer, and Patrick Patterson.

A Kings lineup of Thomas, Oladipo, Marcus Thornton, Pau Gasol, and Dwight Howard would be pretty solid next year. Then they have
Jimmer, Jodie Meeks, Jordan Hill, and Patrick Patterson off the bench. Then Pau will expire in a few years freeing up a ton of money.

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@Memphis Madness

Those salaries don't work under NBA trade rules...

Gasol and Dwight didn't work well together all year in the starting lineup. I'm not sure the Kings would be interested in both. Dwight really needs a strech 4 to succeed. A post 4 just clutters his position down low.

I think the Lakers are stuck with their current roster unless they're willing to take on long term salary. The Lakers have only Nash on the payroll for the 2014 offseason. If Dwight is resigned for the max starting at 20 mil it should give the Lakers roughly 31 mil to 2 players and a cleared roster. So do the Lakers trade Gasol for more expirings this season... or quality players/picks that will eat into their 2014 cap space? In this scenario you might aswell trade Nash too. The Lakers traded 2 firsts and 2 second round picks. Nash is probably playing his last "big" contract and MAY sign year to year after (at a very reduced rate) or just retire if the injuries keep up at this pace. This year was a disaster. If the Lakers toss next year by holding out for a cleared roster in the summer of 2014, then your counting on a 41 year old Nash to makes things go for the 3rd and final year.

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Howard and Gasol couldn't

Howard and Gasol couldn't succeed this season playing with Nash and Kobe. How are they going to succeed with Thomas and Thornton?

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In a sign and trade, you just

In a sign and trade, you just don't have the same kind of leverage when you're trading a player you have under contract. I mean look at what Cleveland got for Lebron, 2 late first round picks? The value just isn't there. 2 top 5 picks? Forget about it.

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Dont blow it up

Fortunately for the Lakers this draft favors a team with late picks. They need to keep Dwight draft Isaiah Canaan or Nate Walters sign OJ mayo if possible or any wing with potential. Get a Sf with Spot up potential trade Gasol for cap relief or anything of value. Start Earl Clark. Keep Nash let him help develop your next pg.

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How can they afford to sign

How can they afford to sign OJ Mayo? They'll be at 78 million without even resigning Dwight, explain how they could afford Mayo? Also there is no way they get a top 5 pick next year, even if they tried to tank they don't have their pick for the next three years.

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Admit defeat huh. They made

Admit defeat huh. They made the 7th spot in the West with a ton of injuries to key players and even most of their players playing hurt. The chance that this happen again are pretty slim. If they were healthy most people could have seen them winning between 55-60 games.

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haha delusional laker fan.

haha delusional laker fan.

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Count me in as a delusional

Count me in as a delusional laker fan.

4th best record in the NBA from the half way point including a winning record over playoff bound teams in he second half the season. Nash, pau and Jordan hill allmissed half the season. Kobe went down before the playoffs. Lakers don't need to blow anything up. Just stay healthy and play a little deeper lineup hopefully with hill, Clark and Morris all ready for more pt. Use the mid level on a quality guy and come back and compete next year regardless of what Dwight does.

Lakers don't rebuild the same way other teams do. Lakers have had 1 pick higher then 10th in the last 32 years but have went to 14 finals appearances in that time frame. Lotto is for teams that can't buy stars. Lakers aren't going anywhere, just keep trying to win and continue to work your magic.

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If they can get Cousins and

If they can get Cousins and Tyreke I think they could work. They would work well with Kobe, Nash, and Metta, as well as being two building blocks for the future. Tyreke and Kobe would make a good big backcourt.

Tyreke, Kobe, Metta, Earl Clark and Cousins would be tough to stop.

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^^^ I am as much of a fan as

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I am as much of a fan as the Kings as I am of the Lakers so I tried to think of a trade that would help both teams.
Sacto could either build around Dwight Howard and Trey Burke or Dwight, Oladipo, and Isaiah Thomas. I also like
Jimmer and Patrick Patterson as key role players. Then Pau helps with scoring and veteran play, then they would have his
large expiring contract in a few years.

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Dont even bother

to try to play GM for the Lakers right now, there are too many ifs and buts. #1 figure out the deal with Dwight.....then we can come here and play GM

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I think a good quick-fix,

I think a good quick-fix, build for the future move could be to try and trade Gasol to Houston for a package headed by Chandler Parsons. The Rockets have the cap space to absorb a lot of cap in a trade, and this would basically save the Lakers somewhere between 16-18 million dollars next year. I know Parsons is young and good, and I'm sure Houston wants to keep him. But without a legitimate low post scorer, they are a first round out in the West, and not much more. They proved more than any other team that you can find versatile wing men who can shoot through cheap free agent acquisitions (Delfino) and throw ins to trades (Garcia). What is much more difficult to find is a legitimate starting big who can score out of the post.

I know they have Asik, and I know they have a plethora of young Power Forwards. But none of those young PFs could play over Greg Smith this year, what does that tell you about where they are? Of course I would keep Robinson, but that's fine, you are probably trading Asik after this season (not going to pay him 15 mil, someone will want that expiring deal), and Robinson won't be ready to start at the 4 quite yet this year either. You can start Asik and Gasol down low, and really have much more balance than they did a year ago. More steady improvement from Harden, mixed with maybe a rejuvenated Gasol year could at least lead to this team hitting Memphis/Denver territory in the West.

For the Lakers, you get them to throw in Jones as well. Now you cleared cap, have Parsons and Jones that both fit very well with what D'Antoni wants to do, and you really just lose a player you were gonna lose at the end of the season anyway.

It's not perfect, its just a thought.

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Good lord. Of course they are

Good lord. Of course they are keeping Asik. The only thing they are kicking themselves about is that they didn't sign him for four years when they had the chance. He is a great defender and he LEAD THE LEAGUE in total rebounds and he was third in rebounds per game. You know that is a nice thing to get out of your center. You make it seem like he is bad. He is a top ten center and a great fit for the team he is on. He is worth it at $15 million for a season and he is only going to count as about $8 million for the Rockets against the cap (because the rules spread those costs over three years). And he is only 26 getting his first taste of starting. He will get better and not only will they not trade him (unless it is for Dwight Howard), I suspect they will resign him down the road.

Houston is the youngest team in NBA history to ever make the NBA playoffs. Players typically peak around 27. The Rockets just need to get seasoned. This same team is ready to compete for years. Gasol would probably accelerate things, but there are going to be free agents that Houston can just sign. They don't have to trade a good starting player.

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Who are they going to sign

Who are they going to sign that is going to give them what Gasol gives them? Yes they are young, you know why? Because all of their players who never played were all rookies.

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No, just give them more time

Let everyone get healthy and go through training camp and more games together. There is no reason to believe that a starting 5 consisting of Nash, Pau and Dwight can't be succesful.

I say draft Pierre Jackson or Ray McCallum in the 2nd round, bring back Jamison and try to get Nick Young or Anthony Morrow to sign for cheap. I am not sure of Early Clarks FA value on the market because of the hot streak he had but also the terrible finish. Either way, pursue a sign and trade of Earl Clark for Chase Budinger. We can throw in a future 2nd round pick if needed or very protected future 1st round pick. That leaves us with a rotation of Nash, Metta, Pau, Dwight, Jamison, Jordan Hill, Pierre Jackson/McCallum, Nick Young/Morrow and Chase Budinger until Kobe returns. Keep Sacre too because you need at least 12 men and he has a great soul. Fill in the gaps with whoever else has a cheap contract that is down to hustle and not get punked. Telfair? Pietrus? Turiaf? Petro?

Much love to Ebanks and Morris but they shouldn't have too much value in our future. Same goes for Steve Blake who actually looked great at the end of the year but we Laker fans know better. I am a fan of Meeks but I am sure his time in LA is done.

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