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  • #36620
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    Dale Worthington
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    Do you guys think he could crack the 1st round?

    I do.

    Sure, he’s not the greatest athlete out there, but you really don’t have to be at the point. I just saw him a bit against a good Nevada squad and the guy’s playmaking abilities are excellent (passing, decision-making, ball-handling, court vision, leading his teammates to the promised land). Moreover, he can run an uptempo team which bodes well for the NBA (Iona is gonna pass UNC and lead the nation in scoring after today…they play hawt and heavy).

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  • #638581
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    JonOats
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     whoever he falls to in the second round will be greatly rewarded

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  • #638605
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    Mr. 19134
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     Yes not only will he be a first rounder but he could go as high as mid first round.  He’s not the greatest athlete, but he’s a really good athlete.  He very fast in the open court, and has a nice first step.  I’ve read on ESPN that a few teams are really interested in the 1st round but are trying to keep him under the radar.  

    Machado is also a very goot outside shooter who has to keep defenses honest with hit shot, or blow by them with his first step and he always keeps his head up looking for teammates.  He’s leading the country in assists and he doesn’t play with a team full of All Americans.  How well he finishes the season will be key if he can lead Iona to upsets in the Tourny his stock will sky rocket.

    Machado had another 15 assists tonight but also had 13 points and 2 steals.  I wouldn’t be surprised if he was the best PG from this draft as a rookie next year.  I think if he played on a team like Kentucky of UNC he’d be a surefire lotto pick with his numbers and skills.  And if he can average 10 apg on Iona imagine what he would average on a team full of All Americans.

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  • #638608
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    RUDEBOY_
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    I also see him going in the 2nd round..The 2012 draft is loaded and there’s no way he’s going in the top 20..Unless the teams drafting at the bottom of the draft are picking him to trade him….They already have point guards,like the Spurs,Bulls,Heat,OKC,Boston & Hawks..

    A guy alot of people arent talking about ,but scouts are high on is Ian Miller of Florida State..Miller’s stats dont blew you away..But some comparing him to Russell Westbrook..I wouldnt be surprised if he goes ahead of Kendall Marshall..

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  • #638618
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    PabloFiasco
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    Highly doubt it unless he dominates the conference tounrnament, ncaa tournament and the portsmouth invitational

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  • #638627
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    Mr. 19134
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     @Rudeboy

    The reason he could go high is because a bunch of teams still need PG’s and Machado is viewed by many scouts as the best pure PG prospect in this draft.  He looks to be ready to play from day one with room to grow.  Machado is a floor general in the Marshall role except Machado can actually score and shoot.  He’s shooting ike 48% and 42% from 3.  Plus he’s fast so teams don’t have to worry about him not being able to guard his position.  

    Draft workouts are going to be key.  But I could see him outplaying the rest of the PG’s on the board in drills.

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  • #638629
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    Dale Worthington
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    You know, Mr. 19134, I’m glad you brought up Marshall, because I don’t understand how the mocks have Marshall going mid-1st round and Machado going late 2nd round.

    Besides the difference in age and height, their games seem extremely similar, with Machado having the clear edge in shooting and scoring. Good stuff mah man.

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  • #638630
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    Dale Worthington
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    You know, Mr. 19134, I’m glad you brought up Marshall, because I don’t understand how the mocks have Marshall going mid-1st round and Machado going late 2nd round.

    Besides the difference in age and height, their games seem extremely similar, with Machado having the clear edge in shooting and scoring. Good stuff mah man.

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  • #638634
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    bloodshy
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    You’re missing one significant advantage of Marshall.  He’s bigger–3 inches taller and a better frame for a long NBA career.  I don’t know how significant that is, but the Jazz took DWill over CP3 on that basis even though CP3 was regarded as being slightly better @ that point in their development.

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  • #638637
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    bloodshy
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    Oops. Apparently you did mention height in an earlier post.

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  • #638667
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    Mr. 19134
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     The thing about Marshall tho is that much of his height factor is neatralized by the fact he only got a 6’4 wingspan which is the same as is height.  In other words he has t-rex arms.  I wouldn’t be surprised if Machado’s wingspan is measured about 6’6.

    And Deron Williams was not only taller, but he was incredibly strong while still possessing elite speed. Marshall has neither elite speed nor does he posses elite strength at the position.

    And many people thought Deron Williams was a better pro prospect coming into the draft because of his strength, speed, size, and he looked like a better passer in college.

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  • #638675
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    Hadzialijagic
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     I was thinking the same thing about the Marshall vs Machado comparison. Machado to me is a better prospect than Marshall. Marshall has 3 inches on him which helps him see the court better but Marshall isnt strong for his size and he isnt that athletic.

    I feel like Marshall will struggle in the nba as he cant score to save his life. He is only averaging 6 points per game. People who compare Marshall to Kidd need to get their head checked. Kidd averaged 17 points and shot 37% from the 3 point line in college. Kidd was also an elite defender while Marshall is a subpar one. 

    Machado on the other hand is a much better scorer than Marshall. Hes a better defender a better rebounder and a better shooter. The only thing Marshall has on him is height and their playmaking is equal.

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    and1rodman91
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     If the Lakers have a chance to get this kid with one of their 2 draft picks in the first round I  think they should, they have been looking for a TRUE point guard. They can develop him for a year and he should make a good pro guard

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  • #638710
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    DipoTime
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     Who is gunna help develop Machado on the lakers tho? old man Fisher? Steve Blake? two other young guards? lol i think hes a good pick up but why not try to develop the two points you have now? morris is RAW offensively but shows good potential at being a true point guard and goudelock can shoot and has some real confidence to his game. No they arent great now but unless they trade for a proven guy idt drafting another one will really solve the problem

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    • #638723
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      and1rodman91
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      Yea I guess that’s true no one will be able to develop him their. I think by the lakers not using Morris a lot in the rotation a lot is hurting Morris because Morris is a gamer and when given a chance he can ball but his offensive as you said is raw and i think goudelock is nice shooter but I can’t see him being anything other than a shooter

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  • #638785
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    So raspy
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     not a believer in Marshall. Idk if i’d take machado over him, but i’d think hard about it. Marshall isn’t an nba athlete, he’s gonna get torched in the leauge defensively i think, and he’s not gonna be able to create like he does in college.

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  • #638797
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    JonOats
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     Other PGs with "t-rex arms"

    steph curry

    Iverson

    Kyrie Irving

    Eric Maynor

    All of whom had a wingspan of 6’4" or shorter (cp3’s is 6’4.5"so huge advantage there.

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    JNixon
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     The difference between Marshall and Machado is size. Machado is the better athlete, and scorer, and shooter though. I think Machado plays alot like Jeremy Lin, but he’s more of a natural passer than Lin and not as good a slasher. I think Machado can last in the NBA though, I think he will probably go in the 2nd round but he can definitely play in the NBA. He’s a truly good passer who also can score a bit too.

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  • #638868
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    BothTeamsPlayedHard
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    http://www.portsmouthinvitational.com/players.php

    Machado is one of the early commits for Portsmouth.

    The magic of a MAAC schedule featuring two BCS-conference recruit scoring teammates versus the guy who point guards a team that plays one of the toughest schedules every year is that people can be completely dismissive of the best point guard in the country while creating a hype over a young man who could walk up to your front door in full uniform and you still not know who he is.

    The MAAC turned Jared Jordan into the next Steve Nash, right?

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/the_bonus/05/24/jared.jordan/

     

     

     

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  • #639112
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    Mr. 19134
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     T-Rex arms refers to when a player has a wingspan that is unusually short considering their height.  Like Iverson was 5’11 but had a 6’4 wingspan.  His arms were 5 inches longer then his height which is above average for a normal human.  He did not have T Rex arms.

    T-Rex wingspan are guys like JJ Redick whose 6’4 but has a 6’3 wingspan.  Thats bad.

     

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  • #646711
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    Dale Worthington
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    God amongst men.

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  • #646767
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    Dale Worthington
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    Iona’s offense flat-out croaked.

    1st half: 55 points

    2nd half: 17 points

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  • #646771
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    PrecociousNeophyte
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     I guess there is some truth to that old bromide, "Slow and steady wins the race".

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  • #646852
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    JNixon
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     I just wanna know who Iona’s coach is. He did a TERRIBLE job in the 2nd half.

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  • #646878
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    nbafan7898
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     I think Kendall Marshall stole Mr. 19134‘s lunch money.  To say that Marshall can’t score or shoot is just ignorance at this point.  The last 4 games of the season for Marshall he has averaged 15 points shooting 51% from the floor and 46.6% from 3. 10.3 assists a game.  He has just ended the season proving everyone that he can score when needed.  I don’t know what else Marshall has to do to show that he will have an impact in the NBA.  Nevermind the fact that he completely saved UNC’s season last year.  If he goes pro this year you all will see what I mean because UNC will be adjusting like crazy.    

    But back to Machado.  Very good prospect, athletic makes good decisions.  Shoots well.  His team choked completely last night.  I think he can have a Chris Duhon type career in the NBA, a very solid backup PG good for 7 points and 4 assists a game.    

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  • #646886
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    FastAndFurious
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     Not anymore, I thought he would have had a good shot IF Iona made a nice run in the tourney, but I think he is secound round now, plus there are reports on draftexpress, that he has no right hand.

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