Supposedly it will be Scola for Plumlee, Green and a lottery protected 2014 pick.
Obviously it won't be a lottery pick and by the way the pacers are going it probably won't be in the top 25.
Pacers are going all in next season, and now have some decent bench scoring options with Scola and Copeland joining.
The only issue they need to deal with now is where does Danny Granger fit?
The line-up will be:
They also have Hill, Johnson and Sloan. They have really no weakness if the new bench plays up to standard and I don't see a deeper team in the league right now in terms of talent.
The key words will be "sacrifice" and "unselfishness" for this Pacers team be ultimately be successful, if someone doesn't buy into this however I can see Bird having no hesitation in moving them on. Honestly I think the leading scorer for this team will be George at 17-18ppg again, however a lot more efficient than last season.
I am excited, this team is a "Championship Contender"
Great point. If they all put egos aside and buy into it then I can honestly see them challenging the Heat and Bulls in the east.
Also, that second unit would be pretty competitive in the east too! Are there any other benches deeper than that???
The Pacers bench has gone from being a weakness to a strength. You have to give Larry Bird credit. He said his goal was to improve the bench and he's done it quickly... And without going over the luxury tax threshold too.
I love what Luis Scola brings to the table and the Pacers can now afford to rest David West without worry.
Where does Danny Granger fit? Right in the starting lineup.
The Pacers may be the best team in the Eastern Conference.
Fair enough about Granger. I was just really impressed with Stephenson's development last season. Hopefully Granger doesn't impede on that
I think Lance Stephenson will tear second unit guards apart. He'll be given more of an opportunity to have the ball in his hands, etc playing in the second unit.
You are right, I see Stephenson being the play-maker for that 2nd unit. With shooters in Watson and Copeland, a pick 'n' roll man in Scola and Ian being big an athletic as well.
Stephenson may not score anymore than last year, but his assists should improve and he will get opportunities with the 1st unit from time to time. As I think he will be first off the bench for Granger as George slides to SF.
Replacing Hansbrough with Scola is a nice offensive move but does nothing for their defense. They still lost the heart of the second unit and are sneaking in a very talented PF that doesn't even try to play defense.
It's going to be interesting
I disagree, even though I liked your post because as individual players, I agree with the viewpoint. Good thing basketball is a team game, and Scola is a high IQ player. If he's just near the vicinity of the right spot, he will succeed with the Pacers team defense concepts. He's never had a protector like Hibbert (arguably the best paint protector at center) or perimeter defenders like Paul George (Highest Defensive win-shares last year) or Lance Stephenson (I hate how often his name is misspelled lol).
I'm willing to bet if Vogel has a decent basketball mind, that he will give Scola majority of his minutes with Hibbert, Stephenson, and George on defense and the offense will benefit with his spacing, and skill.
suns got robbed, now this makes it much tougher for the Heat.. Oden is going to help though, (he will sign there)
Tank tank tank tank tank
Three points of hatering... First, Granger had knee surgery in April... what makes everyone so sure he is going to be ready to start the season? Second, No one is going to take Granger's contract until they know he can play... which will not likely be determined this year....Third, Lance Stephenson shot .364 against Miami and .408 for the playoffs... he is not going to tear up first or second string guards until he learns to shoot.... that said, adding Scola is huge, gives them someone they can dump the ball into when West is on the bench... Giant upgrade over psycho T
1. Danny Granger didn't have surgery to repair his ACL. He only had surgery to alleviate pain from patellar tendonitis. You're back to doing full activities after three months with that surgery. He should be 100% pain free to start the season.
2. I don't think the Pacers are looking to trade Granger. He's on the last year of his deal. Will he be brought back beyond this season? I doubt it...
3. Lance Stephenson's shooting is a concern. IF he's not making a layup or dunk, he's shooting in the low 30's. He's in a contract year. Let's see how much better he got this summer.
I just do not understand what it does for Indiana. Have people forget the man cant defend?
Pacers gave up a lottery pick in next years draft (it was not THEIR pick they gave up, it was somone elses thats why its a projected lottery). The 2014 draft is stacked as we all know, and IND gave up a solid role player in Green. A terrible defending PF is not the player that will get them over the hump and beat Miami. And their are major spacing issues when you play Hibbert with Scola.
If this trade didnt have the pick in it, it could be good for Indiana. But the pick is included, this will come back to bite Indiana.
"I just do not understand what it does for Indiana."
It makes them a better team, it gives them a solid scoring option off the bench, and it gives them more depth up front. Hibbert and West won't have to play as many minutes in the regular season.
"Pacers gave up a lottery pick in next years draft "
No, it's lottery protected. Meaning that if it does end up being a lottery pick they keep it.
I don't get this post...
You never know what can happen with injuries, etc but the Pacers should win 50 or more games next season. That pick will be late in the first round. Even if the Pacers just have a miserable season, the pick is lottery protected.
Lol at Gerald Green being a solid role player... Just because he jumps high and dunks doesn't make him a good player.
The Pacers basically flipped a bum in Green, potential role player prospect in Miles Plumlee and late first round pick for a proven veteran power forward in Luis Scola, who has a near complete game offensively. The thing I love about the deal is if it doesn't work with Scola, he can be waived next season and the Pacers basically would only pay him pennies. That's good cap relief considering Green's contract was a guaranteed $3.5 million.
And as far as spacing, I don't see how that's an issue when Scola can play in both the low/mid post. He's one of the better mid-range shooting big men in the league shooting 46% from there.
Defensively, he'll be hidden. Honestly, he just needs to be in the proper spot when he's supposed to. He won't be expected to shut anybody down.
You called Plumlee a potential role player, that tells me enough about you.
Scola is not a winning player. The man is almost 34, has been past the first round one time.
Green plays defensive that what makes him a good role player, not his jumping ability.
Let me know this time next season, after your Indiana Pacers get bounced out of the playoffs by the Miami Heat once again.
kids like you probably think trey burke is gonna be a good nba player too.
Scola helps your depth but if he is seeing any significant time that means either hibbert or west is on the bench and if your playing miami sans anybody in foul trouble do you really think scola is all that important especially ehen you consider the fact that that means the two guys who gave miami the most trouble will have to sit?
I actually don't love Granger in the starting 5.
I just think last year that team was so locked in defensively, that it was the best they'd ever played.
No 5 guys played better together than those 5.
He'd be a GREAT scorer off the bench, but I guess he's overqualified for that.
I also felt as though PG had really taken strides being the guy, maybe Granger will not change that at all, maybe he will.
Either way, they are a legit contender. My only gripe with their offseason was CJ Watson as their answer to another competent Point. What really killed them was their turnovers and the games Hill played poorly the team was doomed. CJ doesn't exactly alleviate those struggles, but he is an okay 15 MPG guy.
Not trying to hate, the Pacers are definitely very good.
Suns did not get robbed I'll tell you that much. They are in full blown rebuild mode and Scola is not part of their future. Getting any value for him is a plus. Green fell out of the rotation and has been a journey man who has shown flashes of brilliance but never been consistent. Plumlee was a throw in after having a rough rookie year and was taken too high but the guy still has potential in the NBA. Yes he's a little old for a 2nd year player but he's got great size and athleticism. Fact is both these players might not pan out in Phoenix but it's worth the risk and Scola was worth a first round pick in next years draft. Suns got Goodwin with the 29th pick in this years weak draft and can certainly get some value for the future in next years. As a Suns fan I'm happy with the trade and Pacers got a great replacement for Hansbrough