San Antonio draft day luck
For years i have seen either someone has slipped in to the lap of Spurs, or they find hidden talent somehow. Who do you think thats gonna be this year?
My bet is for Harry Giles. He will slip to SA, and as a project they will have him for their aging big rotation.
I think Adebayo falls to them
I could see them possibly trading up somehow like when they nabbed Leonard who had fallen to 15th. Ntilikina is the sort of player where this secanario could play out.
I don't think they are lucky - Burford, Popps and co just draft well.
I think they get too much credit for their drafting and not enough for their player-development. Guys like Tony Parker and Kawhi Leonard, in a lot of ways, owe their stardom to the San Antonio Spurs. Of course, they draft well, but I'm sure some busts over the years would've become good rotation players if they started their careers in San Antonio.
I agree completely. How many low second picks (not even spurs picks) bounced around the league for years before finding a home in sa and developing into valuable rotation pieces. Bruce Bowen, Patty mills, Danny Green, etc. Its not a coincidence. It'sjust such a stable and well run organization. Luck has very little to do with it.
Luck has very little to do with their success? Rick Pitino and all of Boston would like to disagree. With no Timmy D, Pop gets fired before the Spurs win a title and the dynasty never happens.
they take Dusty Hannahs with the 58th pick and get lucky as &$#%#&@! because that boy from Arkansas can shoot the &$#%#&@! ball he is basically a Jimmer who is stronger and can play more D. Go look this guy up hes a &$#%#&@! beast.
The Suprs don't overthink the draft the way some teams do. Kawhi fell to the mid-first round, and Anderson and Murray fell to the bottom of the first, because everyone focused on what they couldn't do and ignored the more important fact that they were excellent college basketball players (which should be a pretty good sign that they may become good pro players). The Spurs were happy to grab them. They know Chip Engelland can fix most flaws in a players' shooting form, and that their system will maximize players' strengths and minimize their weaknesses.
take into account the fact that they are solid, get solid free agents year after year, so are under much less pressure. they watch the draft unfold. Taking Kyle Anderson is an easy choice when the rest of your roster is so stable. A team picking early post-lottery doesn't have the luxury to take risk-reward-development type prospects.
The Spurs are looking for great role players, while the rest of the league is looking to land a star. Stars win championships, a scheme and system only does so much. Without stars that play unselfish and in a system (which SAS deserves credit for), its very hard to keep the talent pool alive signing guys like Lamarcus Aldridge in Free Agency.
the Spurs were able to tank for Timmy Duncan, that changed their future in 1997 to what it is now in 2017. That is still a really impressive 20 year run of staying competitive, but without Timmy and his unselfish nature, I don't think SAS would be what it is.
Look at Deewayne Dedmon too, he was undrafted - bounced around a few teams but is now the Spurs' starting C.
Also although they do get some good veterans to add quality to their bench, it's not something they hugely focus on instead of the draft. When the Cavs were actively going after players who were brought out, the Spurs prefer to stick with who they added to their existing roster in the previous summer.
This year if they draft from 29th and don't trade up/down or out, I could see them monitoring Justin Jackson's draft status very carefully and young Euro Rodions Kurucs is exactly the sort of player they could draft and stash.
Luke Kennard could be their next Ginobili if he falls but he probably won't be there.
If a player "falls" in this draft I bet the Spurs take a look at him.
The draft doesn't look as deep that far down.
At that pick, Jordan Bell and Sindarious Thornwell deserve a look.
Best "reach" candidate for the Spurs in the late first round? Frank Mason, III. Solid, steady point guard who stayed a few years and won player of the year.
I think the Spurs need to shore up a young "core" with Kawhi Leonard basically the only significant player on the team who isn't over the hill... even Danny Green and Patty Mills have seen better days.
Now if Murray, Kyle Anderson, Bertans, and Dedmon are at the very least rotation guys for the future, it looks like the Spurs can use an aggressive scoring option at the 2. Thornwell might be a solid pick here...
Better days, seriously? Green and Mills are 28 or 29!
Looking at the draft board I don't see a lot of the kind of foreign players the Spurs like to draft and develop overseas. If someone with a good work ethic "falls" a la Anderson and Murray, Spurs will probably draft him. I bet they would be enthusiastic if a well-coached winner like Jackson fell into their laps.
Don't forget the time they drafted DeJuan Blair in the second round. He didn't fit with Pop's defensive schemes, but he almost kept the Spurs from winning their fifth title that year he played in Dallas -- he was the Mavs second-best player in that first-round series that went seven games. By the way, whatever happened to DeJuan Blair? Injuries? Happy meals?
As said earlier, it's not luck when you draft that late. They value their picks and not just on court. They take people and their families in and make them feel at home. I remember stories how Pop embraced Patty Mills Torres Strait Islander heritage and made him feel welcome. They give their players an opportunity to learn and as long as you work hard, play defense and pass the ball, you'll get a fair chance. Its a perfect situation for any player. No need to think about this year's pick yet - thats a player for a few years down the track. They already have a handful stashed that they are due to bring over.