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  • #55017
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    valentine

    I think the Kings will make the playoffs next season. The core will essentially stay the same, minus Isiah Thomas, but with a great draft pick.

    Gay has been playing well there, but will take the 20m. He’s in a contract year though, so has plenty to play for. 

    Isiah Thomas is a free agent, and he’ll probably walk. But they’ll take a guard in the draft and get either Smart or Exum who could step in and start straight away. 

    But improvements from Cousins, McLemore, Derrick Williams and their lottery pick will get them a low seed. 

    Agree or Disagree?

     

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  • #892189
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    They are over the salary cap and are in the West. I cannot see them making the playoffs next season sorry.

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  • #892301
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    They are over the salary cap and are in the West. I cannot see them making the playoffs next season sorry.

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  • #892191
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     In the East? Sure. The West is too damn tough, and although I agree with your premise, I’ve still seen no signs they have gotten any better.

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  • #892303
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    Ghost01
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     In the East? Sure. The West is too damn tough, and although I agree with your premise, I’ve still seen no signs they have gotten any better.

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  • #892201
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    Kevin6CD
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    I ask because pretty much everything I’ve read suggests that the Kings will do anything within reason to bring IT back.  Curious why you are so certain that he’s gone.  McCallum isn’t the worst fall-back option, like his upside.

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    • #892292
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      I am a Kings fan (and for some reason not embarrassed to admit it) and a co-owner of season tickets.  Not that this makes me more "in the know" than others but it makes me hypersensitive to Kings news and I’m inundated with it on the radio.

      That said their tune changed a bit as the year went on.  In December they seemed to be leaning towards re-signing him at any cost.  As the season wore on they seemed to be coming to grips with the notion that you don’t challenge in the west with a shoot-first 5’9" point guard.  Rumor is they won’t (and I am praying to God they don’t) overpay to keep him.  I think he stunted the growth of a couple of key guys and quite frankly would rather let him walk.

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    • #892403
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      I am a Kings fan (and for some reason not embarrassed to admit it) and a co-owner of season tickets.  Not that this makes me more "in the know" than others but it makes me hypersensitive to Kings news and I’m inundated with it on the radio.

      That said their tune changed a bit as the year went on.  In December they seemed to be leaning towards re-signing him at any cost.  As the season wore on they seemed to be coming to grips with the notion that you don’t challenge in the west with a shoot-first 5’9" point guard.  Rumor is they won’t (and I am praying to God they don’t) overpay to keep him.  I think he stunted the growth of a couple of key guys and quite frankly would rather let him walk.

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  • #892313
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    Kevin6CD
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    I ask because pretty much everything I’ve read suggests that the Kings will do anything within reason to bring IT back.  Curious why you are so certain that he’s gone.  McCallum isn’t the worst fall-back option, like his upside.

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  • #892213
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     Disagree, who is gonna fall out of the top 8 out of the West? The top 6 teams of the Spurs, Thunder, Clippers, Rockets, T-Blazers, and Warriors will most likely return to the playoffs.  Then you have the 7th and 8th seeds of the Grizzlies and Mavs who won 50 and 49 games this year almost doubling the amiunt of wins the Kings had this year? You still can’t forget about the Suns who are up and coming and will try to have a full year of Bledsoe if they resign him. Last but not least there is teams like T-Wolves with Rubio and K-Love, Nuggets getting Galo and McGee back, and the Pelicans who have guys like Anthony Davis,Jrue Holiday, Eric Gordon, and Tyreke Evans.

    I like the bold prediction but I just see them making it next year. Then again anything can happen.

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  • #892325
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    rileymcshea3
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     Disagree, who is gonna fall out of the top 8 out of the West? The top 6 teams of the Spurs, Thunder, Clippers, Rockets, T-Blazers, and Warriors will most likely return to the playoffs.  Then you have the 7th and 8th seeds of the Grizzlies and Mavs who won 50 and 49 games this year almost doubling the amiunt of wins the Kings had this year? You still can’t forget about the Suns who are up and coming and will try to have a full year of Bledsoe if they resign him. Last but not least there is teams like T-Wolves with Rubio and K-Love, Nuggets getting Galo and McGee back, and the Pelicans who have guys like Anthony Davis,Jrue Holiday, Eric Gordon, and Tyreke Evans.

    I like the bold prediction but I just see them making it next year. Then again anything can happen.

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  • #892223
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     If Thomas is does not return, I feel confident with them succeeding by plugging in Smart over Exum with the likes of McLemore, Gay, Williams, Cousins and that’s if either is available by the time they select.

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    • #892470
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       probably still a PF away from contending for a playoff spot out West.  Williams has yet to show that he can be a starting quality option.

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    • #892360
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       probably still a PF away from contending for a playoff spot out West.  Williams has yet to show that he can be a starting quality option.

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  • #892335
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     If Thomas is does not return, I feel confident with them succeeding by plugging in Smart over Exum with the likes of McLemore, Gay, Williams, Cousins and that’s if either is available by the time they select.

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  • #892231
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    Smart is winner and serious competitor. I think he’s exactly what they need. I think they’d have a shot at playoffs. I wouldn’t bet on them though.

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    • #892241
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       he can play with any of the other guards giving them a lot of options

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       he can play with any of the other guards giving them a lot of options

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  • #892343
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    Mopgrass
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    Smart is winner and serious competitor. I think he’s exactly what they need. I think they’d have a shot at playoffs. I wouldn’t bet on them though.

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  • #892239
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    for 6-8 million, i think Sacramento will re-sign Thomas

    i think they’ll try to buy Terry out; hopes Gay opts out of that contract & re-sign to a longer one

    regardless whether Thomas walks or not, they’ll take a guard.. only 3 players under contract for next season..

    they’ll also have to figure out what to do with the 4 Spot

    i like Marcus Smart, but seriously doubt he’ll be available at 7, i don’t mind them trading down if they don’t feel like Gary Harris is worth the 7th pick (if Smart & Exum are both gone)

    they won’t make the play-offs next season, the West is just loaded

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    • #892252
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       Thomas will only get like 6m on the market other teams already have to much invest with there point guards and there all scoring point guards  if i was Rudy Gay i will opt out dude is only go make like 7 million after cal high taxes think he will be perfect with the Mavs but no playoffs unless DMC have a mvp season the bench still need help, defense still bad, ben need to improve and I do believe they will be better or have a chance to be better than the timb and Sun’s next year. About the draft I like Marcus Smart or Aaron Gordon if they get a top 3 pick Andrew Wiggins or Jabari Parker. Dante Exum plays like a 2guard that franchise seems like they want a true point guard so maybe they can trade down and take Tyler Ennis .

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      • #892258
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        Phoenix & Minnesota had injury problems all year or else they might have made the play-offs.. 

        it’s pretty safe to assume that there are 10-11 teams competing to make the play-offs next season; Sacramento isn’t 1 of them.. 

        they will re-sign Thomas & McCallum will back him up.. i don’t think they’re go after small PG; with Smart, Exum & Harris they get players who can play atleast 2 positions.. giving them a lot of options..

        i like Gordon, but he can’t shoot plus he’s another tweener.. why would a they draft another Forward; when they only have 3 guards under contract next season?

         

         

         

         

         

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      • #892369
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        Phoenix & Minnesota had injury problems all year or else they might have made the play-offs.. 

        it’s pretty safe to assume that there are 10-11 teams competing to make the play-offs next season; Sacramento isn’t 1 of them.. 

        they will re-sign Thomas & McCallum will back him up.. i don’t think they’re go after small PG; with Smart, Exum & Harris they get players who can play atleast 2 positions.. giving them a lot of options..

        i like Gordon, but he can’t shoot plus he’s another tweener.. why would a they draft another Forward; when they only have 3 guards under contract next season?

         

         

         

         

         

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      • #892478
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        If Rudy Gay is scheduled to make $20 mil next year and he only brings home $7 mil, that means Cali taxes are 65 percent? WOW. That might be a serious factor in his decision.

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      • #892368
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        If Rudy Gay is scheduled to make $20 mil next year and he only brings home $7 mil, that means Cali taxes are 65 percent? WOW. That might be a serious factor in his decision.

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    • #892363
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       Thomas will only get like 6m on the market other teams already have to much invest with there point guards and there all scoring point guards  if i was Rudy Gay i will opt out dude is only go make like 7 million after cal high taxes think he will be perfect with the Mavs but no playoffs unless DMC have a mvp season the bench still need help, defense still bad, ben need to improve and I do believe they will be better or have a chance to be better than the timb and Sun’s next year. About the draft I like Marcus Smart or Aaron Gordon if they get a top 3 pick Andrew Wiggins or Jabari Parker. Dante Exum plays like a 2guard that franchise seems like they want a true point guard so maybe they can trade down and take Tyler Ennis .

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  • #892351
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    for 6-8 million, i think Sacramento will re-sign Thomas

    i think they’ll try to buy Terry out; hopes Gay opts out of that contract & re-sign to a longer one

    regardless whether Thomas walks or not, they’ll take a guard.. only 3 players under contract for next season..

    they’ll also have to figure out what to do with the 4 Spot

    i like Marcus Smart, but seriously doubt he’ll be available at 7, i don’t mind them trading down if they don’t feel like Gary Harris is worth the 7th pick (if Smart & Exum are both gone)

    they won’t make the play-offs next season, the West is just loaded

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #892260
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    Grandmama
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     Disagree, they won’t be making the playoffs next year.

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  • #892371
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    Grandmama
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     Disagree, they won’t be making the playoffs next year.

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  • #892296
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    As a fan this is the most hope I have had in years.  If D-Mac can keep his head on straight (I know, that’s a big if) and B-Mac develops as I expect him to next year that’s a great 1-2 punch that plays well off each other.  Derrick Williams might be a good reclamation project, Gay was quietly and surprisingly productive in Sac and Thompson is always solid even if overpaid.  If they don’t get jumped by three teams in the lottery they will have a decent pick and now have a owner ready to spend money to keep the core together.  I’m finally excited.

    All that said it won’t be enough to be top 8 in the west next year.  It took 49 wins to get in this year and they Kings won 28.  I’d be thrilled to see a 12 win improvement and that still wouldn’t be enough.  But I like what’s happening and I already have my seats in the new arena!

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  • #892407
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    As a fan this is the most hope I have had in years.  If D-Mac can keep his head on straight (I know, that’s a big if) and B-Mac develops as I expect him to next year that’s a great 1-2 punch that plays well off each other.  Derrick Williams might be a good reclamation project, Gay was quietly and surprisingly productive in Sac and Thompson is always solid even if overpaid.  If they don’t get jumped by three teams in the lottery they will have a decent pick and now have a owner ready to spend money to keep the core together.  I’m finally excited.

    All that said it won’t be enough to be top 8 in the west next year.  It took 49 wins to get in this year and they Kings won 28.  I’d be thrilled to see a 12 win improvement and that still wouldn’t be enough.  But I like what’s happening and I already have my seats in the new arena!

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  • #892454
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    They won 28 games this year and would need to get to around 45 to get the 8th spot in the West.

    That’s a huge improvement.

     

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  • #892344
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    They won 28 games this year and would need to get to around 45 to get the 8th spot in the West.

    That’s a huge improvement.

     

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