How do you like Anderson Varejao? How do you like your logjam in the backcourt?
If you were Geoff Petrie, would you trade Chuck Hayes and Jimmer Fredette to Cleveland for Anderson Varejao? Varejao makes about $8 million a year and averaged 11 and 11 last year. He'll be 30 when the season starts.
Assuming there are no takers for Tyreke Evans, this creates minutes for Evans, Thornton, and Isaiah Thomas and adds more toughness and hustle. Now you can start Thomas Robinson and DeMarcus Cousins and allow Jason Thompson and Anderson Varejao to rotate in. Maybe you can even allow Robinson to come off the bench as a rookie to learn the game.
The Cavaliers desperately need scoring punch and a player who can score when Waiters is resting and distribute while Uncle Drew is resting. Chuck Hayes is a veteran who can defend the post and rebound, and be a bridge until Tristan Thompson and Tyler Zeller develop.
The salaries match, but my guess would be that the Kings probably still somewhat believe too much in Fredette long-term to give him up for a big man whose window will be closed in three or four years. Thoughts?
As a Kings fan, I do not want Varejao on my team, sure he plays okay defense. But other than that, drawing offensive fouls, and rebounding, he's kind of a liability on the offensive end. SacTown alrady has plenty of power and length in the frontcourt, to be honest I'd rahter have Hassan Whiteside. Plus, I believe Jimmer will still be a good player, he just needs time to develop other aspects of his game and regain his confidence that he had at BYU, he is the team's designated 3 point shooter and I think he is a part of the King's long term plans moving forward and Chuck has great leadership that this Kings team sorely lacks and I don't believe Varejao is worth Jimmer AND the Chuckwagon. Both players will know their roles on the Kings, so all in all, Varejao is good, but I just don't think he would fit into the Kings system
If the Kings want Varejao then what about Varejao, Luke Walton's expiring contract, Samardo Samuels, Donald Sloan, and a second round pick for Jimmer, Jason Thompson, Travis Outlaw, and Chuck Hayes.
I had to throw in Samardo Samuels and Donald Sloan too, because Jason Thompson is now making $6 million a year.
The Kings get their veteran big man and a big expiring contract plus a second round pick, lose Jimmer and Jason Thompson but also get rid of Outlaw's contract and Chuck Hayes' contract.
The Cavs could go with a SMALL three guard rotation of Kyrie Irving, Dion Waiters, and Jimmer and an upfront rotation of Tyler Zeller and the Thompson twins (Tristan and Jason). Chuck Hayes will be the backup veteran big with Outlaw being a possible rotation guy in the three hole.
The trade machine gives the Kings +3 wins in this trade with the Cavs - 5 wins.
Jason Thompson and Jimmer should be good additions to the Kyrie, TT, Zeller, and Tristan Thompson core.
So what your saying is the Cavaliers would get Jimmer and a 6'6" Center? for Anderson Varejao.
I just pee'd myself.
Why would Cleveland do this? Jimmer had a ton of trouble scoring last year and in College he was use to being the best player on his team/being able to whatever he wants. Cleveland wouldn't let him do that. Kyrie is our best player and Byron Scott doesn't like the hero ball that Jimmer is good at, definitely not a good idea for us here.
No way we take a 6'6 center on contract for 3 more years who may or not have heart problems. We have Boobie Gibson at the "I'm a 6'1 knockdown shooter but I am terrible at the point position", so we dont need Jimmer and Boobie can defend.
Sac fans some good news and some bad,
Cousins is like 300lbs. (thats good and bad news) and was pushing Griffin around yesterday at the USA scrimmage. He is ox strong and was throwing great passes. He looks like he can play center easily so him and Robinson can play alot of time together.
He also argued with refs and players. He was also scorned by Colangelo for his immaturity.
Chuck Hayes is almost amnesty worthy and Cavs GM Chris Grant is to good to fall for that. Now if they unprotect that pick we have then we can talk.
The Cavs get Jason Thompson in the deal who could play behind either TT or Zeller. Jimmer would be the 6th man and could fill in for either Waiters or Irving. The Cavs also get a shooting threat in Travis Outlaw.
... Andy Verajao is great but the Cavs are rebuilding. Not sure they need him. Jason Thompson and Jimmer could help more in the future. Chuck Hayes gives them some inside toughness to replace Varejao.
the Cavs get Jason Thompson too. He is the odd man out in Sacto and he just got a raise. Varejao would help more in Sacto and Jason Thompson would be better on a rebuilding young team like the Cavs.
I just hope the Kings make the playoffs so the Cavs get that pick.
First off, any young team SHOULD want Varejao on their team. He's a good locker room guy, a fan favorite, and goes 100% in every single thing he does.
Second off, none of these trades make any sense for Cleveland. The first one makes me want to puke. Chuck Hayes and Jimmer for Varejao? Really? The chances of Grant NOT laughing at that offer is just under 3%.
I'm really surprised at how little people think of Jimmer Fredette. Watch Mark Price film from like '89 to '94. The similarities are uncanny and undeniable.
Comparing Jimmer to Daniel Gibson is a joke. Gibson can catch and shoot and that's it. Jimmer can get in the paint, get to the line, knock down all kinds of difficult mid-range shots off the dribble, he's a terrific passer with excellent vision...it's not even a comparison. Jimmer is not a role-playing, catch-and-shoot, Steve Kerr guy. He's an instant offense guy who could really flourish as the third guard behind Irving and Waiters. He could be like Microwave Johnson!
He scored a fairly effortless 30 in summer league the other day, although plenty of bums have lit up the summer league.