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Rudy Gay to Toronto?

ESPN is reporting that the Toronto Raptors are actively pursuing a trade with Memphis for Rudy Gay. Ed Davis and Jose Calderon are said to be the main cornerstones in the deal as Toronto is looking at Rudy Gay and Darell Arthur. I don't like Rudy Gay as he isn't worth his contract and he puts up empty stats that don't affect a teams W-L record. Toronto is said to be pursuing a trade with Kyle Lowry as well so I don't know who is out future point guard. Terrence Ross better not be in any deal.


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It would suck to see Ed Davis

It would suck to see Ed Davis moved. I was getting used seeing him start for the Raptors. Oh well.

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Yeah I like Ed also, Rudy Gay

Yeah I like Ed also, Rudy Gay is overrated if you ask me

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How in the world does Bryan

How in the world does Bryan Colangelo have a job right now? Yes, I am aware that he has won executive of the year, but, man, has he been sucky as of late. So you deal a basically unprotected 1st rounder for Kyle Lowry. Fine. Now, he is trying to trade Kyle Lowry, of which he will clearly not be getting the value of a Top 4 and down Toronto Raptors pick back. Then, he is trying to trade for an overpaid, above average, but won't be elite player. To do this, he is giving up Calderon and Ed Davis? So, who will be their PG? Oh right, no one. Honestly, the only way Mr. Colangelo could ruin this franchise anymore would be to beg the owners to put the "Basketball Raptor" back on the jersey, and maybe personally induct Vince Carter as the first ever member of the Toronto Raptor Hall of Fame.

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On a good team would Gay be

On a good team would Gay be the third option? Gay is a very good player, he is just not a franchise player and he is getting a franchise player contract.. That is not Gay's fault though. Who wouldn't sign that contract? I just do not understand Toronto wanting him. He needs to go to a team where there is an established star where he can play second or third fiddle..

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Toronto Raptors

Seriously what is wrong with the Toronto Raptors?! Honestly I think Colangelo is trying to save his job right now. I think he knows he can finish in the lottery because if we do, the pick is going to OKC.

I love watching Ed Davis!!!! He is an amazing hustle player and takes high percentage shots. I HOPE Terrence Ross isn't apart of the trade!! He is one of my favourite Raptors along with Amir Johnson!

IMO, I'd rather watch the Raptors' young group and develop and instead of getting Rudy Gay and being mediocre for many years to come.

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I am not sure why the

I am not sure why the Grizzlies would give up an All Star caliber small forward to get Jose Calderon who is stuck in mediocrity and has no business playing more then 20 minutes a night and Ed Davis who is energy and hustle, which they already have in Darrell Arthur and seeing as though Memphis has a formidable front court already in Gay, Randolph, Gasol and Arthur. They are a top four seed in the West right now and come playoff time, nobody is going to want to play them, especially in the slow paced, playoff setting which plays to their strengths anyway with their big men.

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How Bryan Colangelo can still

How Bryan Colangelo can still believe in Andrea Bargnani baffles me.. I can see Ed Davis being the starting 4 for the Raptors in the future.

I know MLSE are probably just going to let BC walk since he is in the last year of his contract but if the rumor is true about Ed Davis I would seriously look to fire him before he sets back the Raptors franchise even more. I thought Terrence Ross was the replacement for Demar but that contract baffled me once again. If Demar was not signed I would have no problem letting go of Jose and Demar for Gay imo.

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@Tyreke Johnson

Just to clarify he's not an All star, but he is getting paid like one.

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im baffled by you guys

im baffled by you guys bashing rudy gay...early into the season he was on a tear...rmbr what he was doing to lebron in that first memphis matchup with the heat? yeah he has slowed down...but thats due to his lack of motivation to play hard now because of changes in their offense, to give more looks downlow. he has shown time and time again that he is clutch and can finish games. hes got the ability to defend when his mindset is right. i dont see whats bad about this and the complains about his contract is ridiculous cuz derozan is half the player he is and is getting 10 mill a year. the raptors always have to over pay for guys for them to come...is rudy gay a franchise guy? prob not...but hes entering his prime so why not give it a go as an organization that has no where to go anyway...

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Changes to their offense? Gay

Changes to their offense? Gay leads their team in shots by a big margin. And yes, the Grizzlies should be pounding the ball inside and playing inside-out.

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early into the season they

early into the season they were running a lot of PLAYS for him to either have space to iso or just off ball screens. but now the plays are for them to pound down low and he doesnt get that space to create as much. and i never disagreed with their method to pound the ball down low...they have arguably the best frontcourt duo in the nba right now.

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Yeah y'all are telling me you

Yeah y'all are telling me you rather have line up of
Pg-Calderon
Sg-Ross
Sf-Derozen
Pf-Davis
C-Valanciunas
For the future or would you rather have
Pg-Kyle Lowry
Sg-Ross
Sf-Gay
Pf-Bargani
C-Valanciunas
For the future, I'm sorry but this lineup is just a more talented lineup and have way more potential as team

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Ross and Jo Val aren't 35 mpg

Ross and Jo Val aren't 35 mpg players yet. I'm mad he wants to trade both Calderon and Lowry.

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i like rudy and i'd be happy

i like rudy and i'd be happy if the trade went through. we'd have to address an overflow of SF's after since we'd have anderson, fields, kleiza and gay.

also once ed learns how to use his right on offensive you'll be that much more dangerous on offense. i went to the game today against the warriors and i could see first hand that he had a few opportunities to have easy baskets using his right.

if somehow this trade does go through i can playing with z-bo will be huge for davis. learning from another lefty big like him can help davis go to another level.

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It will definitely suck to

It will definitely suck to see Ed go because we never got to see his full potential in Toronto, just quick glimpses.
And If they are serious about getting rid of both pg's then obviously they are looking at bringing a new one in...and imo its Brandon Jennings. Long time friend of Demar Derozan, and Jennings has also been quoted saying Toronto is his 2nd favorite city after LA so it sounds like he wouldn't mind playing there either.

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Not sure about this one

I have no problem with Rudy Gay, and he might even be the guy who could get TO into a playoff spot this year...

BUT - Don't like trading Davis and Calderon for him. I would rather see Lowry and Bargnani go to LA for Gasol. And I am by no means a Bargnani hater. I just really like where Davis is going right now, and lets face it Calderon is their best player this season.

Until the deadline has come and gone, I am in wait and see mode. The Ruday Gay trade may make sense if they make at least one or two other moves. Otherwise I'm really not huge on the idea.

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Rudy is not overrated

Rudy Gay is a 26 years old... Not in his prime and steal averages 17+ and on a team thats loaded. He does his job at Memphis. On a different roster he could be a 22+ ppg scorer, but for now, he's getting it done. OJ did nothing at Memphis but everybody knew his talent. Now at Dallas, he's avg 18ppg. It just the system. Its made for everybody to get their touches, but its not made for a superstar. They win when all starters score double figures. Thats their identity. Stop blaming Rudy Gay. He's a top 5 small forward in the league who still has a high very high ceiling.

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Rudy Gay

Rudy Gay is overpaid, period! Cant blame him for his contract, but he is not close to being worth it. He can't defend, he doesn't get to the free throw line, and he is not tough. He is the most inefficient 18 point scorer in the league by a long shot. He may want to learn how to dribble with the left hand as he is right hand dominant and only shoots contested jumpers, henceforth the 40% shooting........

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dude you basically described

dude you basically described derozan not rudy gay rofl...im actually dying....derozan fits that description perfectly.

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Gay averages 17.2 pts on 16.4

Gay averages 17.2 pts on 16.4 shots per game and turns it over 2.5 times a game.

Derozan averages 17.3 pts on 14.9 shots and turns it over 1.6 times a game.

Gay is probably one of the least efficient scoring starters in the league. He hasn't learned how to draw contact or hit the long ball consistantly. Yeah, he's 26 and super athletic, but this is his seventh year in the league. He's plateaued and it's become really obvious he's the guy holding Memphis back, not only on the court, but financially as well.

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?

I agree, he's not the most efficient scorer in the league. He's been in the league 7years. But does that mean he's maxed out?
And even though he's their closer other than Z-Bo, how is HE (out of all people)them back? They have been over achieving with him for the last couple of years. I seriously wanna know how why you feel this way

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What?

Derozan is not even close to Rudy Gay.... Outside of Lebron, Melo, KD, there's not even another small forward with his talent except for Paul George who looks like he's figured it out. Rudy still hasnt been completely consistent but you're crazy if you think he's not a number one or number 2 option for a team. Without him, that that Memphis team is not a top 4seed in the West. He brings to that team the one dimension that no other player on that team can bring. And since when cant Rudy Gay defend? or handle the ball? or shoot the ball? You cant look so deep into stats all the time. Yea he shoots 41% from the field. He's a baller still. He's a big reason they are sitting comfortable right now. He's long, athletic, can post, can get to the rim, can guard, can rebound, can create his own shot, can spot up, plus he's clutch. I highly doubt he gets traded this season. Trading him is giving up your shot at the NBA Finals this year.

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Really? Rudy gay is not that

Really? Rudy gay is not that important to Memphis' success in the playoffs, remember when he got hurt and Z-Bo and Gasol carried the team to an upset over San Antonio and gave OKC a run for their money? That's what started all of the trade rumors

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Yes

I feel you.... Marc and Z-Bo are more than capable of scoring the ball, but Rudy Gay is that extra dimension that a team needs to get over the hump. When people get hurt, other players will adapt and step up, but that playoff run was not a sign that the team is better off without Rudy. Without him on the floor, you think Z-Bo and Gasol can get all of those Isos? i guarantee you teams they play against are more concerned with how to stop him than anybody else on the Grizzlies roster. He's the one player that can do it all. I cant argue that he's not slightly overpaid, but I dont think he is. I think he's the 4th best small forward in the league and in my own opinion, the system holds him back.

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