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Rubio stats almost identical to Jason Kidd's rookie season

Rubio= 11.1 pts. 8.7 asst 4.6 reb. 2.6 stls 37% fg

Kidd as Rookie= 11.7 pts 7.7 assts 5.4 reb 1.9 stls 38% fg

do any of you see Rubio having the same career stats and impact as Kidd?


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Definitely in the mold

He is definitely in the mold of Kidd as far as passing. I think his jumper is better than Jason's when Jason was a rookie. Kidd was the better athlete and faster player, but their eye for seeing the floor is the same. I think Rubio can be as impactful as kidd. We are seeing some of it now, Minnesota is a better team, than they were last year and Dallas became a better team when Kidd arrived his rookie year.

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No. Kidd may just be the

No. Kidd may just be the greatest point guard off all-time, c'mon now.

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He already has a better 3pt%

He already has a better 3pt% and FT% then Kidd did, .35%, 81% to Kidds 27%, 69%. But I do think he can have the same type of carrer because he plays surprisingly good defense and is a pass first PG.

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Great post and comparison. I

Great post and comparison. I think Rubio is already a more reliable shooter than Kidd at this stage. I mean, I still cringe when Kidd shoots the ball now which ends the discussion of him being the greatest PG of all time.

Like Kidd, Rubio just has a knack for the ball and is grabbing boards as well despite his skinny frame.

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I just said this last week to

I just said this last week to my friend and was going to post it but forgot lol I completely agree that he is like Kidd. Tall pass first point guard he doesn't have a great shot but Kidd developed a good 3 point shot and I think Rubio will as well. Good rebounder and surprisingly good defender too. Rubio is quicker than I thought

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Another huge difference is

Another huge difference is Jason Kidd is a much better on-ball defender. Jason Kidd used to improve his teammates so much when he was with the Nets and prior to that, Rubio is still a rookie so he doesn't have that, yet.

Will he have it in the future? That's going to be the difference maker between him and JKidd.

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Nope

Rubio is definitely looking like a stud, that is for sure. But, I do not think he is Jason Kidd for a few reasons. First off, the strength quotient. This is what made Jason Kidd a dominant PG for so many years, he was so strong and fast, basically a match-up nightmare on both ends of the court. Even without a consistent jump shot, he could carve up your defense.

My next reason is, indeed, defense. I can hear the up roar now. "Rubio is leading the NBA in steals and is averaging more than Jason Kidd did as a rookie!" That is a correct statement. Yet, it does not show the defensive impact that Jason Kidd brought to the equation. The guy was a torpedo who could stay in front of anyone and get physical if needed. He pretty much shut down half of the court in his prime. Will Rubio do this? Possibly. I think he is a good defender. But, is he Jason Kidd good? I do not think he will be.

Ricky has the makings of one of the better PG's in the NBA, he has gotten off to a tremendous start. His numbers do rival those of Kidd, who was the same age as Ricky in his rookie season. But, I still find it hard to see Ricky being on Jason Kidd's level as an athlete and having his court presence. So, Ricky Rubio is a good player, but I think the similarities between he and Kidd as rookies leaves out the fact that Jason Kidd had about 25 pounds more of muscle to work with.

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Yay! I finally made a comment

Yay! I finally made a comment that will probably be pushing for the -30 mark!

So much for biased opinion, lol

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Now if he can score like

Now if he can score like Kobe, he can be the modern day Pistol Pete!!

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I seriously think as Rubio

I seriously think as Rubio finishes out the season as a starter he'll average a double double, something along the lines of 13 ppg 10 apg. That Kevin Love pick and pop is an assist waiting to happen, not to mention his great overall court vision.

I said in an earlier post a couple weeks ago, I think he's the first guy since Stockton who has the ability to put up a 17 ppg 14 apg 2.5 spg season. I think Rubio could be doing this by year 3 or 4.

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His careernumbers could looks

His careernumbers could looks a lot like any good pass first point guard in history. His numbers are also very similar to Mark Jackson's, Andre Miller's, Johnny Moore's, and to a lesser extent, Nash, Stockton, Rondo, and Rod Strickland. The point is, no matter how similar their numbers are, they are their own individual players with their own strength and weaknesses, that will have a career arc that only they will have. No player before is ever the exact blueprint of a similar player.

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Those stats don't really tell

Those stats don't really tell the story about what is going on now, especially FG%. I've got Rubio on my fantasy team and ESPN will give you stats over last 15 days and 7 days. Over last 15 days, Rubio is shooting 29%. Over last 7 days, Rubio is shooting 25%. The assists are there like we knew they would be. The steals are there (which some people predicted) and there is a good chance Rubio will lead the league in steals by the end of the season (he is currently in first for total and tied for first on a per game basis, also pulling away in both as his minutes increase). But the shooting was supposed to be bad and it looks like it is. The first week or two folks were like wow that jumper looks a little slow but it is okay. Wow he has three point range. Wow he is shooting better in the NBA than he did in Europe. Now those days look like they were just a hot streak and him shooting well under 40% is what we are going to get. At least for this year. So I don't think Rubio is going to be able to keep up even his current 37% shooting percentage.

On the assist side, as long as the coach doesn't reign him in because of turnovers, then he is going to average closer to 10 assists a game than Jason Kidd's 7.7. Kidd was more disciplined with his passes, but I don't think the Wolves are going to ask that of Rubio even if four to six turnovers a game is going to cost them.

Also I'm still loving him on my fantasy team as he will definitely win me assists and steals week in week out.

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If Rubio continues to shoot

If Rubio continues to shoot 29% for the next couple of weeks, he won't shoot outside as much, he'll get to the hoop more, and get to the ft line more frequently. Early in the season teams were not respecting his outside J and he was still able to find open teammates. One also much take into effect that he is shooting alot more right now without Barea and Beasley. When those 2 plus Webster come back, he wont be called upon to provide as much scoring and will be able to be much more selective with his shots.

Rubio does have a game very similair to Kidds. Somebody said the strength is a difference, which is true, but I think the NBA is a different game today than it was even 5 years ago. Strength is a luxury now, but craft, and pace are the more important facets now. There is less contact allowed on the perimeter nowadays and it isn't like Rubio is a complete shrimp (he's alot stronger than he looks lol).

I think the Kidd comparison is legit as their playing styles are incredibly similair. Both are pass first PG's who provide great defense, and while Kidd may be stronger, Rubio may end up being craftier. If Rubio can be even close to what Kidd has been, David Khan will look alot smarter than everybody thought and deserves a bunch of apologies.

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Most of you dont think they

Most of you dont think they remind you of each other due to their appearance but numbers dont lie and they both have that thought in their head where to put the pass at

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Rubio......

Rubio is an extremely rare player. He can shoot 1 for 10 and control a game. It sounds impossble but it's exactly what he's doing. Kidd is a fine comparison statistically but Rubio has played professionally since he was 14 giving Rubio an advantage competition wise (speaking only as an age reference). Going into the season as a Wolves I'd have been happy H3ll to have had this type of comparison being made.

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Could we say he's a combo of

Could we say he's a combo of Jason Kidd and Rajon Rondo? Rondo in terms of being able to control the game without scoring.

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I'll go out on the limb and

I'll go out on the limb and say that the Ricky Rubio/Jason Kidd comparison will go the way of the Iman Shumpert/Dwyane Wade comparison. I love Rubio. I love pass first point guards. It has nothing to do with Rubio, but don't compare people to Magic, Kidd, or Stockton. It is beyond stupid, especially after 18 games in this goofy season. His numbers are also not dissimilar to Brevin Knight's rookie season. I'm not saying Rubio is Brevin Knight, but he is also not Jason Kidd.

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no one said he is kidd... this post is about him being just as good, if not better in his rookie year than a HOFer pg

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no one said he is kidd... this post is about him being just as good, if not better in his rookie year than a HOFer pg

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"no one said he is kidd...

"no one said he is kidd... this post is about him being just as good, if not better in his rookie year than a HOFer pg"

His numbers as a rookie are also very similar to a number of point guards (Jason Williams, Mark Jackson, Pooh Richardson, Kenny Smith, Brevin Knight, and Jamaal Tinsley) who also should not be put in the same sentence as Jason Kidd. The decision to look at Jason Kidd and think those two are somehow more worthy of comparison than any of the others is the problem. Greivis Vasquez and Steve Nash had similar rookie seasons, but not even the man who keeps the venders who sell Venezuelan flags on the streets of Caracas in business would think that those two should be compared. Anyone can go fishing with numbers and try to find correlations that suit their desires, it doesn't mean there is a great deal of meaning to what they catch.

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"Greivis Vasquez and Steve

"Greivis Vasquez and Steve Nash had similar rookie seasons, but not even the man who keeps the venders who sell Venezuelan flags on the streets of Caracas in business would think that those two should be compared."

Damn... Where do you come up with these things...

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BTPH you are so wise

BTPH you are so wise

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