Rubio Falls to OKC, Lebron and the Knicks (part re)
You guys are forgetting that the Griz have Mike Conley Jr. who really improved his play the last 1/3 of the season, especially his shot selection and shooting, not to mention he's very young and a gifted passer. If they can't get fair value for him in a deal (which they won't - there's a surplus of NBA PG's in the draft and free agency), I think you'll probably see Memphis take Thabeet and pair him with Marc Gasol on the front line, with a great backcourt of Conley Jr., OJ and Rudy Gay, etc. Thabeet truly is a rare commodity in the NBA these days with his awesome size, lenght and athleticism. He's very young and will develop a better jump shot for those of you worried. My feeling is he's the next Mutumbo but will be better as he builds his frame - Remember he's very young. Mutombo was 25 (at least) when he graduated as a Senior from Georgetown - that's 4-5 years of physical development ahead of Thabeet when he was drafted.
The question that will swing this year's draft is WILL Memphis take Rubio. With their backcourt set (Conley Jr. and Mayo), I find it hard to believe they'll take Rubio (sorry Aran). My sense is had OKC won the second pick, they'd grab Thabeet as I think Memphis will do. Memphis with Thabet is an instant force, especialy with Conley Jr's improvement in play, Mayo's amazing shot, Gay's versitilty and Gasol's beef at the 4, which could be an amazing fit with a 7'3 Center in Hasheem Thabeet.
The smartest young GM in the NBA (Sam Presti OKC) could swing a deal with the knicks, but it's highly unlikely. He's smart enough to take the best player available in Rubio, and pair him with Westbrook, Jeff Green and KD. He'll have the youngest most exciting team in the NBA with a small but flying backcourt in Rubio and Westbrook, not to mentinon free pickins during summer free agents (turk?, Milsap? Marvin Williams? and role players like Chris Anderson and Kyle Krover?). It's too bad Isiah set the knicks back a decade by dumping picks and huge money for garbage, including next year's number 1 which is unprotected.
As for all you Knick fans, the knicks will build with Steph Curry, Lee, Galanari and Chandler and pray Lebron wins a championship or 2 in Cleveland so he can leave with grace as the team is getting old (Z, Ben W, Wally Z, Joe Smith & Varejo leaving). Remember Cleveland, not just their basketball, but in all sports has won NOTHING since the Browns won in 1960 or there abouts. So, if he doesn't win this or next year, it'll be very tough for him to leave, although he might. If the knicks are smart, they'lllet Nate walk but keep Lee to a reasonable deal and then they'll be able to land 2 max contracts, e.g. Lebron & Bosh or Amare or Joe Johnson - a player of that caliber
As for Cleveland, their entire front-line is well over 30 (minus Varejo). The next 2-3 years is their window of opportunity to win it all, with this year being no exception. JJ has proven nothing, West is a tweener and Varejao is gone after this year; next at the latest as he's been in a huge contract dispute with the team over the last 18 months (see Dan Fegan). Their only other star (if you want to call him that) is Mo Williams, who I agree is a great player. Danny Ferry has done a great job of building a strong VETERAN defensive presence to surround LBJ. The team is built with strong, steady, reliable solid veterans like Big Z, Ben Wallace, Joe Smith and Wally Z who combine for well over 40 years of NBA experience and who compliment Lebron well. But overall, the team is getting old, and minus Varejao, they have nothing up under 30 - come on JJ Hickson is for real?
My point is Lebron is not stupid and will go all-out this and next year to finally win the city of Cleveland a championship - something that hasn't been done in any sport in over 45 years. Other than Lebron's desire to win a championship, his top priority in life is to become a billionaire - he's been quoted several times about his desire to attain billionaire status.. In fact, for his own reasons, he's befriended Warren Buffet and is very motivated to achieve that goal. I think it sucks and he's being overly materialistic, but hey it's America. Michael Jordan took the minimum salary for many years so the bulls could add guys like Craig Hodges and Paxson. Lebron's just not that type of guy. Unfortunately, Cleveland's too small a market for him to make that kind money, whereas he'll quintuple his endorsement revenue easily in a city like New York. Just my thoughts, feel free to respond. Best, Adam
He would be foolish to roll out. He is a God now, what more does he want. Win a title in Clevland stay put. I agree though I don't know if Lebron is like Mike, and willing to take a lower salary. He seems more into flash. Not knocking him, it just seems that way.
If Memphis is smart they trade Rubio and some contract the don't want for some good players and later draft picks or future draft picks. They could possibly fill their needs and gain depth. Rubio is nice but he will not be better than Conley is now in year one and with Conley constantly getting better, it will be tough to move him and also unless they think thabeet can be a 4 which is debateable why draft him.
For the most part I like what you said. I hate to say it but Lebron is not coming to the Knicks. Thats why I hate the Curry pick. Curry is not going to draw Lebron. Lebron will still have Mo, Varejao, Booby, and whoever I am forgetting. Thats as good a young core as the knicks have plus whoever wants to come play with Lebron. I wouldnt be suprised if Bosh goes to Cleveland. The knicks are making all the wrong moves and it drives me nuts. We should trade our expiring contacts to get draft picks over the next couple years especially next years draft with Wall, Monroe, Favors, Aminu, Teague, Henry and all the other Freshman I'm forgetting.
if Lebron wins a title...i would be surprised if a couple guy decide to take more money elsewhere....
LEBRON SHOULD GO TO NY
Y'all do realize that when Jordan was drafted in '84, there were rumors about him going to the Knicks for years. For the same reasons as Lebron, to increase the viability of his brand and to be an NBA mega star. I guess we see how that worked out...
I mean honestly, stop letting the talking heaads of the sports media world manipulate you into thinking a guy has to go to New York to be a superstar. Think about this, in the past 25 years, how many NBA SUPERstars were New York Knicks?
I have come to the pessemistic belief that we will not land LBJ we should find other players to build around(amare, bosh) and keep our young players like lee and chandler
Lebron idolizes MJ who stayed in Chicago his entire career. (forget washington) He will not leave his hometown that he loves to come to New York and start over again with a bad team.
I have been watching Brandon Jennings since he was in the 8th grade. I have been involved in the game for the past 40 years. The first time I seen him, I told my son who was playing against him, if BJ stays healthy and keeps his head srtraight he will be a pro and right out of high school. As we know they changed the rules. The nba is about 3 things 1) Winning because that is what ensures that you are playing at the most important time of the season, playoff time and championship time. No matter how good you are if you are not playing then you will be forgotten. 2) and just as important to the nba's botom line is entertainment. 3) Committment and love for the game. No one it the draft fits the reqirements and talents better than BJ. Both mentally, athletically and all the intangibles that it takes to become an nba champion, this kid has. Don't get this kids confidence and personality confused with rudeness and cockiness. There is not a more pleasant and well mannered kid in the draft. He just has the utter confidence it takes to be a leader and champion at the highesty level. I was well aware of this when I seen him out play OJ Mayo 3 straight times head to head the first when he was a sophmore in hs.I have watched all the other pg's as well including Ricky Rubio. When it comes to the nba, none of them will be as valuble as BJ. He is without a doubt the best NBA point guard in the draft. I believe that any GM, owner or coach that picks anyone before him will regret it. I have no doubt that in 5 years he will be a main part of a championship team. First of all for a whole host of reasons lets just forget about this past season in Europe, both the good and the bad and there has been enough of both.The biggest benefit for BJ did not even occur on the court in Europe and it will give him a hugh advantage over the other college rookies. He was able to get the burden of poverty off himself and his family and focus on basketball. He is now more use to having money in his pocket and dealing with all the decisions that come along with having money, both good and bad. The NBA and Brandon Jennings are made for each other!
All doubts and concerns have now been answered, it has been reassuring reading your post. Is this site always like this, so many people just straight up "guaranteeing" the future success up guys who haven't even played an NBA game.
Just giving my opinion the only time that it matters. Before hand. Anybody can play Monday morning quarterback. In this case Monday morning pg. Let the games begin and we will soon see. I hope and pray that all these kids have a long and successful future and get to live out there dreams and reach all their potentials so that we all can be entertained by the game we all love!