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Royce White asks Rockets for Permission to use Private Bus for Road Games

Houston Rockets rookie forward Royce White who drew the ire of head coach Kevin McHale and others in the Rockets organization after missing the start of training camp on tuesday..Now says he will rejoin the team if they give him permission to use a private bus for close road games....White fear of flying magnifies his anxiety disorder....

White tells Rockets he wants to travel to some games by bus http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/04/white-tells-rockets-he... via @basketballtalk


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I feel bad for this guy but

I feel bad for this guy but if he wants to have a good career he's going to have to cope with his illness. He can bus it to most division games but when they have to play on the east coast he's going to have to fly. Dudes my favorite rookie coming in but it looks like he may not live up to his potential due to his illness

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I saw this on HoopsWorld and

I saw this on HoopsWorld and was gonna post it. This is a big deal because it shows White is truly the basketball version of John Madden. Only the NBA plays to many games for him to possibly bus it to all of them. Maybe he should of stayed in college and got a degree. in logistics if he thinks hell be able to plan his ground travel through out his career. Its not gonna happen.

They need to go ATeam on him and dope him up before flights like Mr. T to get him to games. This guy is gonna wind up out of the league broke because him not attending camp and flights is a breach of contract so hell have to pay it back.

I thought he was gonna be inspirational but this is just sad he needs to man up. I have anxiety and was afraid to fly til I went to boot camp and got on my first flight now I love flying. He needs to get on board with it.

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bye bye to an nba career for royce white

This young man's career is about to be over before it even starts. He has to find away to give himself the mental strength that's needed to fight against his axienty attacks. Or he won't have the opportunity to pursue his nba dreams. Because no team is going to pay millions of dollars for player who can't travel with the team because of their fear of flying. Royce needs to pray to the lord for mental healing and face his fears with mental strength

Mental Strength ( my definition ) - someone who is resilient and who keeps their composure when there are facing overwhelming circumstances

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unfortunate

Paul Pierce needs to hook this dude up with some Bubba Kush. See how afraid of flying he is after an instagram of that lol.

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11/7-11/9 Memphis to Houston-

11/7-11/9 Memphis to Houston- 568 miles
11/27-11/28 Houston to OKC- 445 miles
11/28-12/1 OKC to Houston- 445 miles
12/4-12/7 Houston to SA- 199 miles
12/7-12/8 SA to Houston- 199 miles
12/16-12/17 Toronto to NYC- 478 miles
12/25-12/26 Chicago to Minneapolis- 408 miles
12/28-12/29 San Antonio to Houston- 199 miles
1/4-1/5 Milwaukee to Cleveland- 435 miles
1/11-1/12 Boston to Philadelphia- 317 miles
1/15-1/16 Houston to Dallas- 241 miles
1/23-1/25 Houston to New Orleans- 348 miles
1/25-1/26 New Orleans to Houston- 348 miles
2/10-2/12 Sacramento to Oakland- 81 miles
2/12-2/13 Oakland to LA- 372 miles
2/22-2/23 Brooklyn to DC- 231 miles
3/3-3/6 Houston to Dallas- 241 miles
3/27-3/29 Houston to Memphis - 568 miles
4/15-4/17 Phoenix to LA- 372 miles

How many trips are they really talking about? Realistically if 300 miles takes 7 or so hours in a coach bus, then there really can't be many more than 5-10 trips.

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very good

very good

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dat crazee fool road trips is gunna b longur den a mickyv post

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sense hiss coo coo ass like ridin on busses send him to the d league

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He has got to get his act

He has got to get his act together. Get on some medication or something

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It's sad to see the blatant

It's sad to see the blatant ignorance on this site about anxiety disorders and how crippling and REAL they can be to an individual. This situation is no different than if a player was physically injured and had to formulate a plan with coaches, trainers, and team doctors about a healthy approach to the circumstances.

I'm in full support of whatever a person has to do to be as healthy as possible, especially White since he is one of my favorite players.

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It's even worse if you look

It's even worse if you look at the ESPN comment section (which is a mistake every single time). It's a real thing that people can't just "man up" and get over. It's not a matter of mental fortitude, and taking medication comes with its own pitfalls. It's not practical, sure, but at this point, it's all he can do.

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@princejamesNot picking on

@princejames

Not picking on you or your post, but I think you need to read about the illness. Not every illness or disorder is the same. You have mild cases and strong cases.

IF you believed you were dying with every part of your mind, soul and heart... How mentally strong would you be? You have to understand... It's an illness. It's not just as simple as "having mental strength" or what not. You could be the most mentally strong person in the world and still struggle with this. IF your mind believes it and is sending that message to the rest of your body, how do you fight that? I've seen one of the most mentally strong and just happy men I've ever known be completely broken down by a similar mental illness.

This kid has mental strength due to the simple fact he's fighting through it, etc, etc. It's not easy. It's going to be interesting to see what the Rockets, his doctors, etc can come up with for him. He hasn't come this close to his dream to stop now.

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I'll admit I have an anxiety

I'll admit I have an anxiety order as well even though I obviously don't have any fear of flying but I'm surprised that its already taken this much affect in his career. But if Royce ends up taking a bus to all his games that would mean he would have to miss a lot of practices and team activities if he ends up having to take a bus.

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Id like to think the medical

Id like to think the medical staff hes working with went over the possibility of him "manning up" before they asked if he could drive cross country for 40 games

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i wonder have they tried

i wonder have they tried hypnosis...but if any treatment isn't helping he'll always be known as a the big what if...i hope he realizes he has TOO much talent to let it go to waste..

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If this was such a huge deal

If this was such a huge deal and it has such a great effect on him, maybe he should have stayed in school and earned his degree rather than entering the league where travel by way of airplane is a must.

I bet he is hoping this bus has a studio on it so he can work full time on his career as a music producer because being an NBA player doesn't yield enough monetary benefits for him...

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Glad the Celtics did not take him

He is going to be out of the league soon. Kind of sad but he wont last.

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White, Rockets reach

White, Rockets reach agreement; he’ll rejoin team Monday


Royce White said he will join the Rockets for practice on Monday in Houston after he received the team's blessing to travel to a large part of the season’s schedule by bus. (Cody Duty / Houston Chronicle)

McALLEN — Royce White said he will join the Rockets for practice Monday in Houston, citing the team’s blessing to travel to a large part of the season’s schedule by bus as part of his plan to manage his mental illness.

The Rockets, he said, were willing to put their agreement in writing and to even have it included in his contract, but because contracts are subject to the Collective Bargaining Agreement, it could be a long process to gain approval from the NBA and the NBA Players Association for a unique addendum to the standard league contract.

“We’ll go forward in a good faith deal between me and Rockets, and I’m totally comfortable with that,” said White, who has been absent from camp. “We can find a way to get it into writing at some point. We do have a letter between us. It’s an agreement, not in contract form, but those are technicalities.

“What the Rockets are doing is astronomically appreciated by me and should be by the mental health community.”

White has battled Generalized Anxiety Disorder in which concerns about an issue, such as his fear of flying, can often spread to a more general and increasing anxiety on unrelated matters. He has suffered from panic attacks and obsessive compulsive tendencies. Uncertainty can lead to dramatic increases in symptoms but in each case, he can treat the disorder by heading off anxiety.

White said he will supply the bus he will use for much of the season’s travel, calling overnight trips of up to nine hours “no problem at all.”

The NBA requires that teams travel the day before games when not playing on consecutive days, but does not specify that teams must fly when traveling certain distances. By leaving immediately after practices and games, White said he can keep his normal sleeping habits which is part of the treatment for his disorder and still arrive in most cities before the next day’s practice or shootaround.

He said that his delay in reporting for training camp was to formulate and formalize his plan with the Rockets, calling his willingness to put off more substantive discussions with the team until shortly before the start of camp is part of dealing with the illness.

“One of the things that I know is this is my responsibility,” White said. “I had a letdown. In my defense, these things are unprecedented. To travel by way of bus or doing some of the things I did at Iowa State to head off anxiety, it was indicated to me through the draft process, sometimes in a joking way, that most teams wouldn’t allow that.

“My health is actually great right now. I want to keep it that way. The unknown of the season or the schedule can decrease that health. We don’t need something negative to happen. A lot of guys don’t have a stance to attack mental illness on the front end. Some don’t know they have it until something happens. The negative consequences can come. It’s just too risky.

Though he has been open about his condition, he said it was difficult to ask for the help he needed, choosing in part to be public in his requests as an advocate for mental health.

“It was at that point the decision was made, I just have to ask,” White said. “That’s why you see Tweets that I had to stop hiding. It’s one thing to talk about my situation. It is another to ask for what I need.

“I don’t want to make excuses, but it has shown itself a number of times that the perception of mental illness is not friendly. You see it now with people saying ‘he gets special privileges,’ like this is something I’m doing for myself. It’s a disability. It’s disability qualified. You’re starting the race behind.

“I just reached the point I said, ‘The hell with it. I have to ask.’ ”

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The thing that bothers me is

The thing that bothers me is that this didn't need to be a national story. If White showed up to camp and dealt with the post-work day there, then this is a non-story. Nobody would care if he hops on a bus for some number of trips. He made this into a bigger matter than it needed to be. Now, I think he is good enough where it won't be long before this is forgotten, but it didn't need to play out this way.

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Yeah, you're right. It's HIS

Yeah, you're right. It's HIS fault he has this mental illness that he's deciding to fight back against. Give me a BREAK!

With great power comes great responsibility. He is in a position where he can ensure that he stays as healthy as possible. And by doing so not only does he ensure that the Rockets organization is getting the best basketball player possible, but he is also showing others around the WORLD that it is okay to take a proactive approach to dealing with such a disorder. He's an NBA player, man. The media was going to have its way with this story no matter what happened (or didn't happen). Now that he has the power to take charge of his life in a way that is not possible for many others who share in his condition, it would be a damn shame if he passed up that opportunity up.

In my opinion, it's a good thing that this is a national story. What is the downside? Royce and his "anxiety troopers", along with everyone who suffers from an anxiety disorder, now know that they can fight back and take charge of their life. This is what Royce's main goal is - to give people hope. It's a great thing, man. And not to mention the Rockets and the NBA come out smelling like a bunch of roses because of their willingness to support Royce throughout his struggle.

Go Royce, go!

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Where did I fault him for

Where did I fault him for having a mental illness? It is unprofessional to leave your coach, GM, and teammates answering questions as to where you are when it is time to be at work. They performed a nice bit of damage control after the initial moment to paint a better picture, but that doesn't change the fact it should have never happened. It has nothing to do with flying or anxiety. What aspect of his attempt to ensure his long-term health would have been hindered by him being at practice while hammering out these details, or at very least communicated with the team that these matters had to be finalized before he starts work?

Royce White has more potential than anyone on the Rockets. If he maximizes his abilities, he should be their best player down the road. Why would one think that the organization, particularly a front office that could/should be on its way out if this new assemblance of rookies and signings don't show potential, would be against working out these matters with him had he showed at practice?

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who mo coo coo royce white,ron artest or my sex fiend 1 leg gf

My 1leg girlfriend works at ihop. And rides a unicycle to work.she say she kant stand ha job.sje says dem folks have ha on her foot alday

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this might sound really

this might sound really ignorant but...

why doesn't he take sleeping pills before his flight and someone in charged of him takes him in a wheelchair and sits him on his airplane seat like a dead body, and that same person takes care of taking him out of the plane before he wakes up.

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shakin myhead out loud

F s i just dunt no bout u bgt;

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shakin myhead out loud

F s i just dunt no bout u bgt;

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f s. dat iz dum.i thought eye wuz stupeed.

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I'm with Mike Wilbon on this.

I'm with Mike Wilbon on this. Watching PTI yesterday they said this would be fine for awhile. He is talking about buying or renting his own private bus, so it wouldn't be like a regular charter. Also, the Tockets knew about this and I believe they are behind him 100%. They should give him time. Let him bus when he can, let him miss a few games and let him fly sparingly. I'm sure Royce and doctors are working in this diligently and will find a way to make this work. If Royce can be around for 60 to 65 games, his rookie year is a success. They are still grooming a rookie. Give him this year and next year to figure this out before we quit on him.

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Is he going to be worth

Those accomodations. A game on the west coast then the next on the East what is he going to do? I like watching him play but I would not want to cross my fingers and drop a 1st round pick on the wishful thinking of it. I hope it works out but he will have to do some serious balling or Rockets might want to consider a deal b4 trade deadline. Again this kid has serious talent. I like his game a lot. He could end up out of the L if this becomes a major issue and that's just being realistic.

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shoot he wit a traingralizer gun like f s said

wunder has dat nut saw da movie soul plane?

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Surely when playing for his

Surely when playing for his college some flights would have possibly been involved. This must have been discussed before he was drafted as it certainly throws a spanner in the works. A footballer called Dennis Bergkamp who played for Ajax, Aresnal and Holland also had a fear of flying and often missed European away trips. But Dennis was one of the top players in the world and playing twice weekly at most in football is different to playing back to backs and road trips in the NBA.

Hopefully this can all be sorted out and Royce can get his NBA career underway.

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what would the A Team do?

What would the A Team do? Didnt Mr T have a flying disorder?

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call me insensitive or

call me insensitive or ignorant or whatever, but this just sounds like a case of him needing to man up. Is anxiety just a nice term for getting really scared? I mean if these anxiety attacks only occur when hes about to fly, then its not some kind of medical condition, it just means he gets really freaking scared. Get over it.

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u tell em ll perez.dude a nut

I wonde

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This shouldn't be any cause of concern

This shouldn't be any cause of concern, the Rockets knew what they were getting here and early headaches were to be expected. This won't stop White's basketball career, he's finally got into the NBA and he won't be defeated by this. However, i'm pretty surprised how much this story has blown up, did the media really think that he was joking when he said he didn't like flying? He has a disorder that cannot be rehabilitated just because the quality of air travel is better, i wonder if Royce White will ever overcome his fear as he's described what flying does to him.

I hope he gets to be an allstar at least once in his career, he's such an inspiration and he has the talent to deserve the spot.

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“Yeah, I love it! I’m going

“Yeah, I love it! I’m going to make everybody eat their words, man,” Waiters said. “That’s the biggest thing. I’m not worrying about anything that is going on. Like I said, I’m young, it’s a learning experience for me. At the end of the day, I’m just going to play my game and continue to work. The sky’s the limit for me.”

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